Changes in the battle creation system

[CooperO 7,956]

what happens when we the regular players have a missions for a certain map and there is none then what .. we now have to ask pro passes players to create one .. is this not a form of begging / and flooding the chat room for a useless item that should never have been removed by tanki...we all ready seen what happened when you gave us gold box's how many times the chat room had to be closed along with a surplus of banns issued ...

 

2.4.2. Begging in any form, including requests to transfer funds, game values or crystals;

 

– flooding, flaming, spam, printing in capital letters (CAPS LOCK);

PRO pass holders cannot make battles for non PRO pass holders. All battles created by players can only be joined with a PRO pass.

[Bydo 20,125]

PRO pass holders cannot make battles for non PRO pass holders. All battles created by players can only be joined with a PRO pass.

so why bother to play .. when you can't find a battle to do your missions with or even to battle in.. sure there is 3 missions per day but what if your done 2 and you want to do the third one like most players do now..

 

why even bother

[CooperO 7,956]

Perhaps after the free PRO passes have ended, the servers will be full of battles for non PRO users again, in which case it will be easy to find a suitable battle. This is what I hope at least, because no one wants to play on maps they don't enjoy.

[misafeco 713]

so why bother to play .. when you can't find a battle to do your missions with or even to battle in.. sure there is 3 missions per day but what if your done 2 and you want to do the third one like most players do now..

 

why even bother

The Pro Pass will solve your problem. For me it's definitely worth investing. I make way more crystals in battles with no drugs. The last one:

I earned almost as many crystals in that one battle as my Pro Pass price. And I'm not even an OP guy with my Vulcan M1. I don't get why you're complaining when you can get enough crystals for a monthly Pro Pass in 1 hour...

[misafeco 713]

Perhaps after the free PRO passes have ended, the servers will be full of battles for non PRO users again, in which case it will be easy to find a suitable battle. This is what I hope at least, because no one wants to play on maps they don't enjoy.

I hope most of the players don't want to go back to non-Pro battles. More Pro Pass owners = more variety in Pro battles, more choices for me.

[Dliver 436]

That is the downside, however the map-making system has actually a higher probability of creating a battle on less-popular maps than they have of being created by players. You can also purchase the PRO pass :D

Like I said earlier, " Sorry, Tough Luck, if you want to play the maps you like, pay for a pro pass". Plus who wants to play on the less popular maps. There is a reason they are less popular, players don't like them.

  I've actually liked for the most part the recent changes in the game, but with this one they went too far. Re-balance needed to be done, the protection system actually does allow for more freedom of choice in-spite of the ridiculous prices, but this latest upgrade  reduces FREEDOM of choice and is much more complicated (in-spite of the big BATTLE button), reduces the fun factor and causes more frustration. They have truly separated the casual users ( who don't spend much money ) from the big money spenders creating 2 classes of players. The beggars ( casual players ) and as they call them in Vegas the Whales ( big spenders ). Just face it - IT'S NOW PAY TO PLAY BABY.......The transformation is complete.

[Dusk 1,629]

Useless update with no purpose.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Like I said earlier, " Sorry, Tough Luck, if you want to play the maps you like, pay for a pro pass". Plus who wants to play on the less popular maps. There is a reason they are less popular, players don't like them..

Actually many players like the less-popular maps more, they just don't play them because when they create battles less people join. (Or there are less crystals to be made)  Many players, after playing their first full battle on Osa, or Siege, proclaim they like the new maps more.

 

Honestly I am sick of Noise, Polygon, and Rio, so any update that makes those boring and stupid maps less popular resonates with me.

 

Plus you can still play the maps you like- I see tons of "Battle Button" battles on Polygon and Rio.

Edited November 28, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[Bydo 20,125]

Perhaps after the free PRO passes have ended, the servers will be full of battles for non PRO users again, in which case it will be easy to find a suitable battle. This is what I hope at least, because no one wants to play on maps they don't enjoy.

the part that infuriates me the most is now players like myself can't make private battles to do one on one  with certain players .. now we are forced to battle on maps ( certain maps ) that we don't like .. also even when pro passes end, we still can't make battles ( for others ) to battle in private battles with friends ( i refuse to get a pro pass cause i seldom would use it besides to do private battles .. not worthy in my books ) .. so why even bother playing ...your creating another tanki X version .. and please don't say your not cause i play on both games and what is happening there is all ready in that game.. is this new update to help game mods watch over battles.. next your going to remove private chat's i can see this happening sooner then later .. i'm like ready to quit for good due to all these updates that are wreaking this game .. i'm not even playing in tanki X as much as i should ... :( :( :angry:

Edited November 28, 2016 by frozen_heart

[Bydo 20,125]

 

 I don't get why you're complaining when you can get enough crystals for a monthly Pro Pass in 1 hour...

just look at the ranks that would tell u why im not a fan of pro battles .. been there done it for so long that now i'm against them.. once you get higher in ranks you will understand why im not for it

[Dliver 436]

Actually many players like the less-popular maps more, they just don't play them because when they create battles less people join. (Or there are less crystals to be made)  Many players, after playing their first full battle on Osa, or Siege, proclaim they like the new maps more.

 

Honestly I am sick of Noise, Polygon, and Rio, so any update that makes those boring and stupid maps less popular resonates with me.

 

Plus you can still play the maps you like- I see tons of "Battle Button" battles on Polygon and Rio.

You kind of contradict yourself. After awhile of people trying those maps, and they found that they like it, they will then tell their friends. Then those friends would try it and then they would tell more friends (and so on and so forth) til lots of people would be playing those maps. But that's not happening. So your premise isn't totally accurate.  Personally I do like Osa a lot and have tried to get people to play it, but it never catches on. Maybe, when you rank up high enough we can meet there and try again to promote it.

 

However, I do totally agree with you on Noise, Polygon, and Rio.

 

Personally for me, it's a waste of time to spin the wheel of chance with the battle button. I say "Don't fix something that wasn't broken". Keep it the way it was. Give people the FREEDOM to form the battles they want , or if they choose, to use the "Battle" button. That was the best of both worlds. Everyone was happy with it. But this is an obvious move to reach into peoples pockets even deeper and force people to cough up money for something that will do more harm to the game than benefit, and that most players do not like or want. If the developers were smart they would take this opportunity to garner good will for themselves by saying that they have heard the complaints and that they will get rid of this change and go back to what they had before. It would create good will and over all, I think, people would spend more money on the game because they would then feel that they were being listened to.

Edited November 28, 2016 by Dliver

[747fred747 0]

World of Warships is looking more enticing everytime Admin throws in some money making scheme. I want to create battles not be fobbed off to some battle Admin "thinks" I might be qualified for. I could NEVER complete missions if I were unable to create my own battles. Thumbs down Admin.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

What about Armored Warfare? :D Such a great game.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

All non-PRO battles will be standard battles with a 15 minute time limit.

Sneaky, that is DEFINITELY not what it said before.

 

No complaints though.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

This update sucks big time. I dont like druggers and drugging, Now when i join a probattle it always is with the possibility to drug available. By this update Tanki is chasing players away to other games. Even more then before, and I tought that wasnt possible.

You must be choosing the wrong battles.  I see a fair number that are drug free by design, and although I don't create any battles that cover your rank, I always turn off drugs.  They're around, but drugging seems to be more popular.

 

Lots of Love

 

Aunty

[GeeVuh 1,647]

This is horrible, i don't want to play in maps i don't like.

 

How am I supposed to do my daily mission *Chore of Rio keep joining and leaving games till i find one.  Oh, that will help gameplay.

 

You can still join battles manually...

[r_Vexation2 28]

No, you don't have to click the Battle button over and over till "destiny" brings you to a Barda map. All you need to do is look at the battle list and select a battle that's taking place on Barda. If there are none on your server, try another server. The ONLY difference is that in the past you had the option to create a battle on Barda, but the battle would've been empty anyway.

What???

 

If he has no pro pass and the system hasn't created the barda battle,any pro battle is out of his reach since all battles created by players will be pro battles from what I understand.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Also there was a very interesting problem for new players not being able to create battles or funds to buy a pro pass, or even get help in chat.

[dragonfreeze 10]

Buying a Pro Pass once a month is OK with me.  It seems like daily missions have gotten a bit more lucrative this last week (maybe my imagination) and crystals will still accumulate...it may just take a bit longer to buy that new turret...OK.

 

My beef is that it is frustrating as hell to get into a decent Pro battle.  Drugs/no drugs, smart drugs, length of battle, units of point accrual, number of players, blah, blah, blah...  It takes a lot more effort to find a suitable battle.  OK, there is my rank and nothing can be done about it...fine.  Here is one thing that could be fixed easily and should be remedied:

 

Change the default time to 20 minutes or even 10-15 minutes  Default 30 minutes is too long and most people create with the default just because they don't change the parameters...not because they want a 30 minute battle.

 

So change the default time to 20 minutes...PLEASE????  Anyone can still change to a 30 minute battle if they wish.

 

20 minute Battles by default...come on, you know it's a good idea... 

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Hey all, I want to reiterate that the situation with the Battle button and non-Pro battles will probably change once the free PRO passes are finished, so do try to reserve your judgement until that time.

[Bydo 20,125]

ok so what you want us to do is to loose the rights to creating battles and end up having to search all over tanki now to find battles which servers our missions and our battles.. then in this case fix the servers,,

 

and yea i fully understand what you have been saying all this time but you have to understand not all players can collect enough crystals in battles .. due to low amount earned .. so in theory in about two months or so it would cost a player enough crystals for one pro pass card .. is it worthy to get not if your not a skilled player.. this is why players enjoy playing in private battles with mates cause of the highly skilled players will be taking them out way to easy

Edited November 29, 2016 by frozen_heart

[gyv_99 14]

Really a bad change.  The point is not only to have the possibility to play in a variety of maps, the point is to play precisely in the map in which one wants to play at that moment, and to play in that map in a STANDARD battle.  So if that map is not available at that moment one cannot create a standard battle in it, one could create just a pro battle.

 

I must say I don't know if pro battles give experience points and crystals or not.  The last time I entered a pro battle before this update, some months ago, there was a message that said that one did not gain experience points or crystals for the battle.  Maybe this has changed, but really I don't care if it has.  I haven't bothered to find out about this point because I don't like pro battles, I like standard battles.

 

I also have the impression that after this update the standard battles are boring.  It seems the fact that players are playing in just the battle that is available and not in the kind of battle they would prefer has an impact in the way the battle is played.  It seems to me people tend to quit standard battles more often and also tend to be more inactive.  So, the game is becoming boring ...

Edited November 29, 2016 by gyv_99

[GOLD_BOX_TAKEN_BY 584]

why developers now a days doing only mental torture with us?

Why you people make this game so complicated ?

Dont try to hide your inefficiency by failure project "tanki -x" with this types of  foolish idea toward admin

you people cant earn money without 80% non buyer or above 70000 player on line at pick time. Buyers also feel boring in future.

 

 

if you dont agree with me then print this post and fix at office wall.

with in 6 month you are going to lose 40% active players 

[TeddyGraham_j 1]

I haven't liked these past few updates, some are cool but most are just bad ideas. This one is another bad idea. For one, who really wants to have to pay crystals just to get on a battle and just to play the game? Especially those who don't play as much. People who get on a few times a week won't make as many crystals but they will be spending crystals to play. It wont be worth it to them anymore. Secondly, what happens to the "not so popular" maps? Pretty soon we will only have maps like, Noise, sandbox, Serpuhov and Polygon.

 

There are some pluses to this update. For those who don't drug, it's nice because all battles will be pro battles. But of course will the "Random Battle Machine" generate battles with no drugs? Or will they all be just normal battles except with the title "Pro"? Which basically means you play normal battles except you have to pay for them.

 

I know Tanki has to make money and this is probably another way of making more, but do you really have to mess it up so much just to make money? Remember, messing it up too much will lose players, which means you lose money. If you care about the game and money, you should care about the players most.

 

Thanks for the fun Tanki, I hope I can still enjoy you a few months from now!

Sincerely,

A concerned player. 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

^A lot of the PRO battles aren't even drugs-off but just normal battles in disguise, but this will change once the free week is over.

 

Yes, the normal button-generated battles will be drugs-enabled, obviously.

 

However, it would actually help less-popular maps because the battle button doesn't have a "favorite" map and there's nothing preventing it from creating a battle in Solikamsk or Station. :)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Like I said earlier, " Sorry, Tough Luck, if you want to play the maps you like, pay for a pro pass". Plus who wants to play on the less popular maps. There is a reason they are less popular, players don't like them.

  I've actually liked for the most part the recent changes in the game, but with this one they went too far. Re-balance needed to be done, the protection system actually does allow for more freedom of choice in-spite of the ridiculous prices, but this latest upgrade  reduces FREEDOM of choice and is much more complicated (in-spite of the big BATTLE button), reduces the fun factor and causes more frustration. They have truly separated the casual users ( who don't spend much money ) from the big money spenders creating 2 classes of players. The beggars ( casual players ) and as they call them in Vegas the Whales ( big spenders ). Just face it - IT'S NOW PAY TO PLAY BABY.......The transformation is complete.

I do not find Tanki to be pay to play at all. I do my daily missions and each week I use fewer supplies than I earn. Now with the PRO Pass being common I can find drug-free games for the 1st tie ever. That further reduces my drug use.

 

I've gotten to the point where I have 400 or 500 of supplies including nearly 300 Repair kits. If I run across an obscene drugger I  can match him if I have to. 

 

I've got good gear for my rank. I'm earning Cry fast enough to buy my next upgrade step.

 

Unless you want to play Tanki for like 3 hours or more each day on the same account you can do just fine without spending a dime. But if you play a tone every day it starts making sense to buy Premium Passes. And hours/day even as a moderate user will eventually use up your missions drugs.

 

I think its rather fair that someone using the game 3+ hours a game pay a little money for its upkeep.