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This is so bad, I can´t even begin to describe it. very close to using bad words a lot. REALLY bad word. I had fun playing and creating my own battles so I could forfill the tasks you make everyday, now it is not possible and I have to sit ours and waite for a spot opens in a battle - change it back - or just flag you whant money money money and make it a pay game all together

 

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I know off many kids that are not allowed to have online charges and they use this game daily they will stop playing, and so will I 

 

its really bad thinking from you 

 

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I'm unimpressed Tanki team.  I have always played this game because you allowed the opportunity for me to do so without outlaying lots of cash; not any more.  Should I be able to find non-Pro battles to enter (almost none on some occassions) it will take me weeks to win enough crystals to buy my way back into the game.  What were you thinking?

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I have been playing this game for over 6 years now , the most **** up update is this one !!!

 

1- Long time ago tanki return every one crystals back >> so they buy there tanks but more expensive !!

2- changing of maps from being simple to what ever you can call it now !!

3- removing crystals boxes 

4- reducing score gained  of capturing flags .... 

5- not using power ups all at the same time 

6- reducing battle funds down to 60% 

7- changing over weapons strength many times 

8- micro updates with timers >> i mean come on for real !!!

 

#there so many things and update happened that killed the game many times and so many players left !! 

 

$$ It's okay that tanki trying to get more money $$ after every update BUT please it's enough don't make it worse !!

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Cant Beliave How they turned in to money hunters. I play the game for 5 years..

First of all that time there was no choice to buy m3 directly . You had to pay for m1 m2 m3  one by one.. Even if you had enough money for m3...

Today it is not like this anymore..  %50 of our crystals gone for buying m1 m2 m3 one by one... Today people can get it in 1 year easily  ESPECIALLY WITH DISCOUNT SYSTEM ..which took for me 3 years to have m3..

That's why I decided to restart the game with new account..

Later on removed crystal box.. Which was amazing peroid of tanki online..

Removed maps and changed score balance.. 

And lastly this update.. pro pass battle system..

I just wonder what are you really doing in your office.. Sitting together and thinking about how to f... the game?

It was legendary game and now its **** as much as Farmville...

 

I cant believe you are really deeply running in to crashing the game.. 

I Guess it is time to say good bye to the game...

There are a lot of ways to earn money from people even if they don't spent real money..

But you prefer that they go away.. ok as you wish... this is my last game on tanki online...

Your developers screwed up everything... We are not sheeps.. We deserve to get some respect for playing 5 years!!!

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Worst update for low rank players.

Now i have to wait for a player with pro pass to create a map i want to play in.

I like to play in small maps and there was not even single short range map in en3 and en4 for which pro pass is not required.

When I click BATTLE  button it crates large maps.

Bye-Bye low rank players.

That just about sums it up.

 

So the future for an average player who does not have, or want to spend, money is to be on the losing side most of the time.  Joining a battle with loads of players on both sides means rushing around like a headless chicken being blasted to death every few seconds.  A game for those who try to rely on a little bit of skill has just been killed off.

 

Time to go back to playing pool or an old fashioned board game.

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I had a mission to gain XP in Brest map and none was available. I pressed the "Battle" button and I was on another map where tankers were already playing. I exited the map (Is this what you want? tankers entering and leaving maps) and pressed again the "Battle" button. Sure enough I was on another map. I had to search all the servers to find a Brest map which is not PRO. Found it on RU3.

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This new battle system and recent rebalancing and re-rebalancing is too screwed up!

 

I started playing Tanki a few years ago with my oldest son who introduced it to me, since then my youngest son started too, it was a lot of fun playing it with my kids, my good friend that I introduced it too, and by myself also, thank you. We have multiple accounts to mix things up a bit too, but now with this new battle system, and since my youngest likes to spend all his crystals he can't buy  pro passes. I see no reason for buying crystals since the frequency of "updates" and other changes seems to be every other week recently and all they've done (as they usually have over the years with a few exceptions) is screw up my tank, and gameplay, not to mention increasing crystal costs for most things. 

 

So we're gonna take a Tanki break, and might come back to play if this terrible mistake in changing battle creation being for pro pass holders changes back.

 

It's been (mostly) fun, Goodbye for now! Maybe c-ya later.

 

LemmyKill

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Worst update for low rank players.

Now i have to wait for a player with pro pass to create a map i want to play in.

I like to play in small maps and there was not even single short range map in en3 and en4 for which pro pass is not required.

When I click BATTLE  button it crates large maps.

Bye-Bye low rank players.

Small maps' popularity were the problem. That's why freeze and firebird were nerfed.  I'm finally glad to see some Osas and Passes and I think the battle button creates better battles than real players.  You can't get the fullest out of Tanki if you only play on Noise and Polygon. Personally I am sick of those maps and any update that lessens their popularity is fine with me.  I understand the principle of what you are saying but your individual situation completely deserves itself.

 

My only suggestion would be to increase the rarity of map-based missions.

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This new battle system and recent rebalancing and re-rebalancing is too screwed up!

 

I started playing Tanki a few years ago with my oldest son who introduced it to me, since then my youngest son started too, it was a lot of fun playing it with my kids, my good friend that I introduced it too, and by myself also, thank you. We have multiple accounts to mix things up a bit too, but now with this new battle system, and since my youngest likes to spend all his crystals he can't buy  pro passes. I see no reason for buying crystals since the frequency of "updates" and other changes seems to be every other week recently and all they've done (as they usually have over the years with a few exceptions) is screw up my tank, and gameplay, not to mention increasing crystal costs for most things. 

 

So we're gonna take a Tanki break, and might come back to play if this terrible mistake in changing battle creation being for pro pass holders changes back.

 

It's been (mostly) fun, Goodbye for now! Maybe c-ya later.

 

LemmyKill

Yes, I think its a little too much to often too, Lemmy.  Although, I am a crystal buyer, I do not do it for all my accounts and I have to be frugal with my crystals to have a successful tank.  The pro-pass cost is better now, but it cuts the cost of my earnings down by 1/4 per month.  That is a lot and it will impact my willingness to play as much as well.  I haven't been buying any crystals on any accounts, nor have I been doing anything on my accounts but saving crystals for a while because there is no predictability.  I set up a good combo and that is the main combo for that account, its fine, but I can't afford protections because what is OP changes from week to week now.  And I can't create battles where my combo is good.

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Dear 'Tanki team'.

 

What utter nonsense - what has driven you to create an environment that is no longer customer serving, to what appears to me to be a legion of your loyal followers?  I can't tell but it smells like either excessive wealth creation or buckling to the views of the vocal minority,  You, 'the Tanki team', have taken the fun out of this otherwise excellent game.

You have removed my choice in how I play this and I resent being manoeuvred into spending yet more of my hard earned cash in order to use the hard earned cash that I have already expended through your servers.  You now have a considerable amount of my dosh tied up in this little enterprise and are effectively squeezing me out.  I want to be able to choose which games I take part in and I had that choice until two days ago. There may be numerous games on the server, let's say around 30, but if 25 of them require a cash outlay in order to enter, 3 are permanently full, then the choice from the remaining 2 doesn't seem entirely equitable to me.  Perhaps you disagree? 
I play this game to relieve stress, however when I logged in for the first time in a couple of days last night I was not rewarded with half an hour of hypertension relieving gaming, but 20 minutes of absolute bewilderment, frustration and finally exasperation.  I went to bed more wound up that I had been before I sat down at my keyboard!! (keys banged very hard here).

Will we get an acknowledgment of our concerns?  It certaily seems to me that there are more than a few of your loyal followers utterly flabergasted at this latest move.  I suppose that would be too much to ask for?

 

Yours Respectfully

 

dcvagrant

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MMO's in general are designed for two major categories of players: The elders (those who have been playing for a long time) and the newbies. Usually, no one thinks of making an allowance for elder players who start all over just for fun. After all, it's their choice and not the game mechanics itself which is leading them to make new accounts. In Tanki, however, there is a scope for such players (even I have 2-3 alts in newbie ranks) but even so, the game cannot be designed completely around us. When designing for newbie ranks, devs will think of players who are actually new and don't know anything about the game. That's where my previous statement applies.

When designing for elder players like us, they'll make changes at higher levels (like the recent Global Update which completely changed things at M3 level). So, I hope you understand why what you're asking cannot be done. The battle button has maximum utility at those ranks for players who are actually new. It doesn't make sense to allow them to create battles for free and then later make them pay for it.

See this response (sorry Beaku this is not directly at you personally just an example) that causes such bad feeling in the community.

Tanki have released an update that obviously is overwhelmingly disliked by the player (customers).

Instead of acknowledging the fact that maybe it has not gone as intended or the fact that it is not liked you (acting as a representative of Tanki) continue to try and defend / support/ excuse it.

It would be more appreciated and respected if Tanki or their representatives (you) came on here and said - OK sorry we made a mistake , we get you don't like it, here is what we were trying to achieve.  Is there a way we can still achieve this whilst appeasing the customers??

Of course the feedback will be diverse and need some careful sifting through but at least it would not feel like it currently does - here's what we give you, tough if you don't like it?

Currently due how badly tanki have managed the gameplay recently it may well be very negative but this blinded support and justification for an update that noone likes does nothing to build a community or inspire trust in the Devs.

 

Once again this is not directly solely at you.

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See this response (sorry Beaku this is not directly at you personally just an example) that causes such bad feeling in the community.

Tanki have released an update that obviously is overwhelmingly disliked by the player (customers).

Instead of acknowledging the fact that maybe it has not gone as intended or the fact that it is not liked you (acting as a representative of Tanki) continue to try and defend / support/ excuse it.

It would be more appreciated and respected if Tanki or their representatives (you) came on here and said - OK sorry we made a mistake , we get you don't like it, here is what we were trying to achieve. Is there a way we can still achieve this whilst appeasing the customers??

Of course the feedback will be diverse and need some careful sifting through but at least it would not feel like it currently does - here's what we give you, tough if you don't like it?

Currently due how badly tanki have managed the gameplay recently it may well be very negative but this blinded support and justification for an update that noone likes does nothing to build a community or inspire trust in the Devs.

 

Once again this is not directly solely at you.

I acknowledge and appreciate your feedback. However, the communication gap occurs because players think like players and developers think like developers. Devs have long term plans and know exactly how each feature affects the game mechanics. They see the big picture and they also see the numbers. Players like you and me, on the other hand, have our personal experience with the feature. Both point of views are necessary to ensure development of any game.

As for this update, the reason devs haven't said anything like, "We're sorry..." is because the update is going as intended (At least, for last week. What happens this week and later when all players don't have PRO passes remains to be seen). Most players are seeing only one fact: They have to pay to create battles now. And they don't like it. That's why many posts are pointless hate spewing. However, we also have a lot of players like yourself who are(or at least try to be) calm and level headed. These feedbacks are both negative and positive in nature and both have been passed on to developers by us (that's kinda what a moderator does). So, all said and done, devs have a lot of feedback from the community but it just takes time to go through it and implement any changes (if required).

I (like any other logical person) know that the update isn't perfect and could do well with some more changes. But it's headed in the right direction for now. The reason you see mods speaking in favour of most updates is because most of the time, we're trying to explain things to players who are spewing hatred for illogical reasons. If they start supporting all updates with same enthusiasm, perhaps you'll see us doing the opposite and pointing out flaws in each update xD.

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...for all my accounts and I have to be frugal with my crystals to have a successful tank.  The pro-pass cost is better now, but it cuts the cost of my earnings down by 1/4 per month.  That is a lot and it will impact my willingness to play as much as well.

I'm not saying that i like or dislike the update, but reading your comment shoed me a new aspect on multiple account users:

 

An example:

Someone has 3 accounts, so he plays 1/3 of his time on each account.

So on each account he earns only 1/3 per month, of what he could earn if he would play only a single account

And he has to purchase 3x pro passes

 

If he has plays only 1 account:

he would earn the full amount possible per month (and not 1/3rd)

He would have to purchase only one pro pass with hose earnings - which is way easier then.

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As usual no one has anything to say to Bozo. Glad to be invisible. Also, all you children with crayons, make it hard to read. Spoiled brats begone.

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the ''Battle!'' button don't take me in the map where i need help with my missions,i want to go in a cologne dm because i need to collect 300 exps in cologne and 500 exps in dm,the daily mission is for this day,no for tomorrow or another day,someone reverse the update please,i can enter any of the battles where i need help.

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the ''Battle!'' button don't take me in the map where i need help with my missions,i want to go in a cologne dm because i need to collect 300 exps in cologne and 500 exps in dm,the daily mission is for this day,no for tomorrow or another day,someone reverse the update please,i can enter any of the battles where i need help.

Just Select a DM battle or a Cologne battle the old way. :) It's highly unlikely that you will find a Cologne DM.

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¿how?,there is no option of having a map selector now with the updates like the old way,i blocked the others mode like ''ctf-tdm-cp'' but they cannot give me a cologne dm,they can give me another map like pass and forest and these others.

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¿how?,there is no option of having a map selector now with the updates like the old way,i blocked the others mode like ''ctf-tdm-cp'' but they cannot give me a cologne dm,they can give me another map like pass and forest and these others.

Just join the battle the way you joined it a month ago.

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¿where?,i just need a cologne dm with 15 minutes so i can do my daily missions too.

As I said before, you will not find a Cologne DM. Just find a DM on any map and complete your DM mission. Then find a Cologne with any Gamemode and complete your Cologne mission. If you can only play for 15 minutes (one default battle) you only need one mission a day to get the mission chain anyway. :)

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