Changes in the battle creation system

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Well, just first impression after the week of free passes.

 

The concern about finding certain maps seems real. What seems even more real is that it will be much harder to "cheat" a 1st-place finish for those Missions.

 

Used to be I could almost always find a game about to end, sneak in and get credit for a 1st place finish. It'd take seconds to complete what is supposed to be a hard Mission. Now the Battle button will fill up the basic games so no more "stealing" without a Pro pass. [i cannot say this is a Bad Thing for the game though]

 

Advantage: Buy-a-Pass

 

Second observation is all the "slaughterhouse/deathchurn" games on Poly, Island, Sandbox etc have moved to the PRO ranks. The basic games actually are showing a variety of more interesting maps!

 

Advantage Basic Maps

 

There really are a lot of TAnki players who like no-drug games. It is not all just talk. Now that there are many PRO passes you can find drug-free games. And that applies to the other options too. 

 

Advantage Buy-A-Pass.

 

Bottom Line: Buying a Pass can definitely add to the enjoyment of playing for man players.That's enough to justify the cost. 

 

It may also be possible to show that the Crys cost of the pass is re-earned over the month. But that's not certin. It's safe to assume not every player would re-coup the Crys.

 

But either way, the cost of the Pass is very small compared to a month's overall earnings.The cost of the Pass itself is not going to make Tanki more real money income.

 

One way to take that is to say, "No big deal  just buy the damn Pass".

 

The otehr way to look at it though is, "Since the Pass is so dang useful, all players should get it as a basic part of the game"

 

I see both sides but honestly am not sure which is the better. It will depend on now man players end up in each group I guess.

Edited December 2, 2016 by LittleWillie

[Mark_Hamilton 14]

Vote for me to be a developer - here is my plan

 

1. Choose battle based on desired map (not server)

2. Choose map battle based on your rank

3. Choose map & battle based on CP, flag, TDM, DM

 

Anyone can create a map with current PRO pass features of drug / no drug battles etc, BUT EVERYONE can create maps (like pre-update).

 

VOTE NOW

[LucaKanon 24]

Wow, what a change. Is it me, or are there much less battles going on. Since I (and so many others) cannot create a battle anymore, there is hardly a battle to choose from anymore. Wow, looks like tanki is committing suicide...

My favourite maps: noise and rio are hardly there anymore. Instead of having so many of these maps, now you can hardly find one anymore. I now have to press the 'battle' button and let the system lead me to a crappy map I don't like play on. Seriously, is anybody using that button?

 

Probably I will have to buy a PRO pass to at least be able to have some fun with tanki, but still, what a terrible update. I hope the developers are really monitoring the amount of playing going on...

[fei502 9]

I think the Premium/PRO Pass requirement for battle creation is a bad idea.

 

We have daily missions, which may require playing on a certain map. What if a battle on that map is not available yet? Before this change, we can create a battle on that map, and wait for other players to join.

 

Now, unless we buy the PRO pass to create battle on that map, we can only wait, for the luck to happen.

 

My suggestion is: Everyone can create battle. Those with Premium/PRO Pass can create PRO battle and restrict only to players also have Premium/PRO Pass. Other uses can create ordinary battle, and let ordinary players to join.

 

You should give players options and let players to choose, not force the players to buy and spend crystals!

Edited December 2, 2016 by fei502

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

I may be peesimistic / suspicious as are many players these days but i cant help but feel that however we now choose the play the game Tanki will deem it a success.

If we dont buy a pro pass and repeatedly click thebattle button trying to find (or have tanki generate) a battle we like to some degree then Tanki will say the battle button is proving popular and has had X amount of clicks in just the last 7 days.

If we cant stand the battle button and reluctantly buy a pro pass then tanki will state that since the 'update' pro passes are more popular than ever and the selection of pro battle is now more varied hence a success.

 

The only way this could be deemed a failure is for people to not buy pro and not click the almost mandatory battle button

 

Well played tanki , well played ;)

[Creepermatrix 0]

The recent changes to the battle creation system means that only people with Pro Passes can only create battles and the following people with no Pro Pass or don't even use it can no longer make battles.

I know that many of you in the Tanki Community love playing on your favourite maps but for me and many others who don't use the Pro Pass, I know it is not nice, because for me it made me more less of a player, that right to make battles on my favourite maps.

 

Many of you might say, What am I talking about for you it might be ok but for me and other players this is just a massive news that has completely shocked me and maybe just you reading this.

I am saying to the developers, if maybe you can just make both people who use and don't use the Pro Pass have the ability to make battles and to make a separate system so there is no arguments and no hassle to buy the Pass, you see its a win-win situation.

 

But for many others this is a difficult situation because many of you spend your crystals but being stuck in the pre-made battles is really tough and I know You might say the Pro Pass is just like 1830 something like that amount of crystals. but for many users they're just simply bankrupt in terms of crystals and not being able to play with your friends just because you don't have a Pro pass is just very sad.

 

Please guys I hope you understand what I am saying and jump on the bandwagon to tell the develpoers to change and tweak the system so we people who don't use the Pro Pass can once again play our favourite maps.

[Creepermatrix 0]

Keep up with the comments guys I hope we Pursuade to change or at least tweak the system!

[LucaKanon 24]

Keep up with the comments guys I hope we Pursuade to change or at least tweak the system!

I hope you are right, but usually they don't take any notice of our comments and complaints. For them it is just extra money since everybody now MUST be a PRO pass in order to play on your favourite map.

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

Apologies if i have missed some key information but from what i can remember reading the primary aim for thie battle button was to make it easier for new players to get straight into a battle?

 

If that is the case then leave the battle button there for ease of entry but also leave the create battle option there for everyone else??

 

It seems a remarkably obvious solution to both the initial problem and the current backlash?

[jackyvamp 12]

Well if they want all to be forced to buy a pro-pass in order to enjoy a good battle... Congrats that worked!

 

For me and many others the Pro is still to expensive since we prefer to better our equipment rather than spend our cristals on passes and drugs.

I tried to play without a pro pass tonight, but there are absolutely no fun battles.. All that are still playing drug like hell.

 

Now is my equipment resonably strong even against druggers but most battles i found you have Colonel having to face full m4 legends.. You cant tell me that is fun for them. Really please reconsider this update or make a pro pass less than 1k cristals so most will buy, this way it wil just take out the fun for most.

[LucaKanon 24]

Apologies if i have missed some key information but from what i can remember reading the primary aim for thie battle button was to make it easier for new players to get straight into a battle?

 

If that is the case then leave the battle button there for ease of entry but also leave the create battle option there for everyone else??

 

It seems a remarkably obvious solution to both the initial problem and the current backlash?

Yes, the button makes it so much easier to play: before you had to select a battle and then press play... Oef, the agony, the labour, so much work and so difficult to understand  ;)

But the create button won't come back, mark my words. This is just about us spending more crystals so we will have to BUY more crystals...

[austen_pierce 1,948]

i can't complete the cologne mission,please,remove the maps missions like exps in brest and exps in sandbox etc... because the ''Battle!'' button take us on random maps so these missions don't work anymore.

I second this.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

I suspect the Battle button is coded specifically not to create standard battles on Polygon, Rio, and maybe a few others. Otherwise they would be there and they would be full.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

I have decided that I like the update. More on this later. Had a lot of fun in unusual battles even when I lost.

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Let's get real here. This update is not bad for high ranks. Because I mean, come one, any player starting from Brigadier to Legend can afford to buy a pass every 31 days. You can get your crystals back in one or two day.

 

For players like Sergeant or WO, I bet this is a little bit harder. I can understand why players like that hate this update.

 

But Gismos or Legend? We have enough crystals to buy a pass every month.

Edited December 3, 2016 by a7x_Pedro48

[jackyvamp 12]

a7x_Pedro48: That depends on the hours playing. As an adult player who also has lower accounts i try to keep them up and strong. But work, sports and family.. I'm not able to play that much. And having a pro pass does not guarantee that there will be enough non drugging fun battles to choose from. For clan yes i have to but.. If not i would rather invest in MU than pro and have little choice. Had some many pro passes that i only used for max 4 hours cause of the lack of time and choices in battles, that lead me to finish my mission in non pro :(

Edited December 3, 2016 by jackyvamp

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Ever since this update I cant play with half my friend cause they don't have pro pass . So why shouldn't I (who buys a pro pass every month) be able to make Pro battles AND Regular battles? It would just make sense (and don't even tell me that they should just buy Pro cause some of them only play once in awhile and don't make much . Others are saving for kits like most people)

[austen_pierce 1,948]

The good

-a lot more map variety now, thus a lot more fun to be had in the game

-battles generally fill with players quickly

-battles turn over with active players, not AFK ones

-motivation to press battle again to find the next surprise

 

The bad

-still way more pro battles than standard ones

-daily missions aren't aligned with the new battle strategy

 

 

A solution to missions: (attn: Cedric and devs)

  Give daily missions to pro users only.  Return the old daily gifts system for free players.

 

The unchanged

-druggers in standard&pro battles

-players rage quitting when the team loses, resulting in unbalanced teams

-ability to place mults in any battle (assuming mult owns pro pass)

-raiding parties

[nelsonny 26]

seriously..this is a prank right? wheres the Create battle button demmit!!!

[ironCzar 36]

Mission:

Earn experience on Wolfenstein map             0/300

 

There is no battle and I can't create one thanks to the missing "Create" button.

 

Thanks a bunch, Tanki developers.

BTW, the "Battle" button is a joke.

[bozo88 450]

Mission:

Earn experience on Wolfenstein map             0/300

 

There is no battle and I can't create one thanks to the missing "Create" button.

 

Thanks a bunch, Tanki developers.

BTW, the "Battle" button is a joke.

fork out for the pro pass big boy, ban drugs!

[bozo88 450]

The good

-a lot more map variety now, thus a lot more fun to be had in the game

-battles generally fill with players quickly

-battles turn over with active players, not AFK ones

-motivation to press battle again to find the next surprise

 

The bad

-still way more pro battles than standard ones

-daily missions aren't aligned with the new battle strategy

 

 

A solution to missions: (attn: Cedric and devs)

  Give daily missions to pro users only.  Return the old daily gifts system for free players.

 

The unchanged

-druggers in standard&pro battles

-players rage quitting when the team loses, resulting in unbalanced teams

-ability to place mults in any battle (assuming mult owns pro pass)

-raiding parties

I disaggree with your solution, i think bringing back the create button is not to hard, and I would still by my pro pass (even though I'm in a save-for xxxmass-sale-so-I-can-get-a-decent-amount-of-m1s-and-get-back-at-m2-noobs mode)

[Maf 32,300]

Ever since this update I cant play with half my friend cause they don't have pro pass . So why shouldn't I (who buys a pro pass every month) be able to make Pro battles AND Regular battles? It would just make sense (and don't even tell me that they should just buy Pro cause some of them only play once in awhile and don't make much . Others are saving for kits like most people)

Topic merged

[Maf 32,300]

i don't like that they remove the create button.if i wanna play on the map wich one i like it I have to buy pro pas that means  tanki team   wanna  make more money and they DON'T CARE about players. rest of changes at OK. SHOUDENT REMOVE THE CREATE BUTTON.

Topic merged

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Mission:

Earn experience on Wolfenstein map             0/300

 

There is no battle and I can't create one thanks to the missing "Create" button.

 

Thanks a bunch, Tanki developers.

BTW, the "Battle" button is a joke.

http://tankionline.com/battle-en.html#/server=RU2&battle=fffffff3390e30a1

 

http://tankionline.com/battle-en.html#/server=RU2&battle=fffffff338fe53d6