Changes in the battle creation system

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Topic merged

for God's sake for the last time Mafio . Can you PLEASE stop merging our topics to the dev posts? (Blah blah blah. The devs will actually see it here cause they don't look at the I&S section . Blah blah blah . Tell em they should look at the I&S section. That's what it was created for)

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

for God's sake for the last time Mafio . Can you PLEASE stop merging our topics to the dev posts? (Blah blah blah. The devs will actually see it here cause they don't look at the I&S section . Blah blah blah . Tell em they should look at the I&S section. That's what it was created for)

You, sir, is so wrong. Looking for feedback all over the forum takes so much time it is easily missable. Mafioso doing a hell of a job helping your feedback reach right people. DO NOT ever complain on topics merge.

[Smooth_Operator 3]

And we are just one step away from moving the PRO pass to the shop…

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

And we are just one step away from moving the PRO pass to the shop…

I find this kind of comments going really too far with idea of this game going pay to play.

 

This game is free to play at its core. Free to play games works only if paying users can play alongside non-paying sers. If a large portion of the game will be locked behind pay wall, there will be no players to play that portion. Making this game pay to play will not work. Hence, it will never happen. Keeping pro-pass always accessible with crystals makes perfect sense from both game point of view and business point of view.

 

And it if fair.

[DrSaint 176]

Oi, Семён Семенович!
 

I find this kind of comments going really too far with idea of this game going pay to play.

 

This game is free to play at its core. Free to play games works only if paying users can play alongside non-paying sers. If a large portion of the game will be locked behind pay wall, there will be no players to play that portion. Making this game pay to play will not work. Hence, it will never happen. Keeping pro-pass always accessible with crystals makes perfect sense from both game point of view and business point of view.

 

And it if fair.

Dude, I think it is NOT FAIR!

Essence of visiting Tankionline™ or in that matter any other online game site!

It is to have some fun by playing your FAVORITE and DESIRED game.  

By making it difficult for player to navigate through Game-site's features, Tankionline™ is not making it easy for players to comeback again and again.

Obviously people will find other ways to occupy their free time.
 

Time will tell!

Edited December 3, 2016 by DrSaint

[GeeVuh 1,647]

I find this kind of comments going really too far with idea of this game going pay to play.

 

This game is free to play at its core. Free to play games works only if paying users can play alongside non-paying sers. If a large portion of the game will be locked behind pay wall, there will be no players to play that portion. Making this game pay to play will not work. Hence, it will never happen. Keeping pro-pass always accessible with crystals makes perfect sense from both game point of view and business point of view.

 

And it if fair.

Thank God for you developers.  :lol:

[hamadbizy 6]

absolutely bad, the worst ever update by Tanki... actually with all the lame excuses Tanki brought I think they are only after pushing players to spend real money in the game and by doing that they are just ruining the best game ever made online... I started buying gold boxes before just for the fun of it, but now I am seriously thinking of leaving this game forever... thank you Tanki for helping me get rid of Tanki addiction..

HAMADBIZY :ph34r:

[Maf 32,300]

By making it difficult for player to navigate through Game-site's features

What exactly do you mean by this? Developers have been making both, the game site and the game interface itself (I'm not sure which one you're talking about here), as simple to use as possible over the past few years. The recent update was also part of that process. Now, instead of having to explore all the different setting of battle creation, the players can simply click the Battle! button and enjoy a quick game. And since the feature will continue to be improved, soon it will be the most convenient way to enter a battle, as it will choose battles on any server with the most suitable time remainder, rank range and number of players.

 

As for "making it difficult to learn about PRO battles" - that's fine. If players become interested in the game and wish to explore all its features thoroughly, they can spend some time reading descriptions of items in the garage and thus will find out exactly how the PRO pass works.

[DrSaint 176]

What exactly do you mean by this? Developers have been making both, the game site and the game interface itself (I'm not sure which one you're talking about here), as simple to use as possible over the past few years.* The recent update was also part of that process. Now, instead of having to explore all the different setting of battle creation, the players can simply click the Battle**! button and enjoy a quick game***. And since the feature will continue to be improved, soon it will be the most convenient way to enter a battle, as it will choose battles on any server with the most suitable time remainder, rank range and number of players****.

 

As for "making it difficult to learn about PRO battles" - that's fine. If players become interested in the game and wish to explore all its features thoroughly, they can spend some time reading descriptions of items in the garage and thus will find out exactly how the PRO pass works.

 

* I was about taking away the "create" tab! and If you think taking away "create" button is a convenient thing, then read this thread from the beginning.

 

** Hmmm, sometimes people like you amaze me due to your ability to show non-existing perfection while taking away the existing good, why on earth players want to give up the "create" button which gave them the diversity and desired maps all together(!?), dude they never asked for it (тёща порезала руку, я её застрелил, что бы она не страдала). Do you know how hard now it is to find a DM or Rio Map in Server 2?

If you want to tell me "go search", then we goes back to square one again ---> As I said  "it is inconvenient" and "time consuming", now PLAYERS need to spend more time to find a battle, or even WORSE, now they have to wait till a place opens up in a certain battle map or wait till server starts a new battle (without a schedule, it is impossible to know when.). So as i said up there Tankionline™ made it difficult for players.

 

*** I don't care about the dummy reason, PRO pass lovers existed before and they will continue to exist, but making a PRO pass almost mandatory is minimum a cheap move by few Devs, who voted for it!

 

I

 

 

 

Edited December 3, 2016 by DrSaint

[Tess_Tickle 12]

In a nutshell, over the last few days this game has just become over-populated battles dominated by those who spend loads of cash to buy big hulls and powerful weapons.  So now it's a constant being destroyed in an attempt to get near the huge Vulcan (just being one of them) tank.  Where are the battles confined to smaller numbers that at least give us a chance to compete.  We are herded into going where the few battle's exist and playing against 12 opponents.  The fun has gone out of it

[misafeco 713]

In a nutshell, over the last few days this game has just become over-populated battles dominated by those who spend loads of cash to buy big hulls and powerful weapons.  So now it's a constant being destroyed in an attempt to get near the huge Vulcan (just being one of them) tank.  Where are the battles confined to smaller numbers that at least give us a chance to compete.  We are herded into going where the few battle's exist and playing against 12 opponents.  The fun has gone out of it

If you want to play smaller battles, buy Pro Pass. It also gives the ability to create and join non-drug battles = way better balance between teams.

[Tess_Tickle 12]

If you want to play smaller battles, buy Pro Pass. It also gives the ability to create and join non-drug battles = way better balance between teams.

Are you kidding me?  Are you for real?  Do you hear me making sheep noises whilst being led Lemming like to the dustbin full of Pro-Passes.  Playing in a drug game allows me to at least try to compete with those that are spendings fat wads of cash to speed their way through the ranks.  Once upon a time I could at least compete with the limited amount of skill I had and trying to earn crystals in order to improve my tank, now I am confined to Battles full to capacity mostly with big tanks and big weapons that I cannot compete with. 

[Tess_Tickle 12]

If you want to play smaller battles, buy Pro Pass. It also gives the ability to create and join non-drug battles = way better balance between teams.

You are a prime example of how this game is being ruined.  Very early on you bought Vulcan and Titan in order to rush through the ranks against weaker opponents.  Now you preach from a position of artificial superiority.  Is this game just for those with plenty of money?  Is there no place for those with limited ability and cash?  Let me know so I can understand what steps to take......and those would be blooming great big ones to the door marked exit.

[misafeco 713]

Are you kidding me?  Are you for real?  Do you hear me making sheep noises whilst being led Lemming like to the dustbin full of Pro-Passes.  Playing in a drug game allows me to at least try to compete with those that are spendings fat wads of cash to speed their way through the ranks.  Once upon a time I could at least compete with the limited amount of skill I had and trying to earn crystals in order to improve my tank, now I am confined to Battles full to capacity mostly with big tanks and big weapons that I cannot compete with. 

You should get M1 equipment as soon as possible. Without it you'll be dominated by higher rank players.

And yes, Pro battles are way more balanced. Drugs give you much more advantage than having a better turret/hull.

[misafeco 713]

You are a prime example of how this game is being ruined.  Very early on you bought Vulcan and Titan in order to rush through the ranks against weaker opponents.  Now you preach from a position of artificial superiority.  Is this game just for those with plenty of money?  Is there no place for those with limited ability and cash?  Let me know so I can understand what steps to take......and those would be blooming great big ones to the door marked exit.

I only spent like 4$ on this game and I won't spend any more. I want to win games with my skill not by using tons of drugs. The Pro Pass gives me the ability to join drug-free battles for a price of only 2600 crystals which amount I made in 1 day from Daily Missions and battle fund.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Are you kidding me?  Are you for real?  Do you hear me making sheep noises whilst being led Lemming like to the dustbin full of Pro-Passes.  Playing in a drug game allows me to at least try to compete with those that are spendings fat wads of cash to speed their way through the ranks.  Once upon a time I could at least compete with the limited amount of skill I had and trying to earn crystals in order to improve my tank, now I am confined to Battles full to capacity mostly with big tanks and big weapons that I cannot compete with. 

 

You are a prime example of how this game is being ruined.  Very early on you bought Vulcan and Titan in order to rush through the ranks against weaker opponents.  Now you preach from a position of artificial superiority.  Is this game just for those with plenty of money?  Is there no place for those with limited ability and cash?  Let me know so I can understand what steps to take......and those would be blooming great big ones to the door marked exit.

No, he planned ahead. You have not, and therefore end up with a weaker tank. If you want to get away from druggers, buy the PRO pass. There's no way you can prevent druggers from playing in normal battles.  I have never spent any money on this game and never will. Vulcan and Titan are not particularly OP. 

 

If you want to make battles with less players, buy the PRO pass. It's not my fault you can't compete in normal battles. I always get first or second. It's true that druggers get a huge advantage, but that's what the PRO pass is for. SMall-sided battles are inconvenient and they give much less crystals.  You can't demand people to do something to satisfy your individual situation of wanting to be able to compete. 

 

I agree this game gives a huge advantage toward buyers. That is unfortunate, considering how cheap the game is.  A drugger tank will, and should be able to beat a non-drugging tank. That's sad, but it's the way it is. I am opposed to this unfairness as well.

 

However, you said the game has no place for those with "limited ability and cash." The game rewards, and should reward ability. It's not your fault if you can't afford drugs. However, it is your fault if you can't build up your skills.  Most of the people at your rank are not buyers. They simply saved up and bought "big tanks" as you said. However, drugging gives much more advantage than M1 hulls or kits.  If you drug, you are actually ahead of those "big tank" players, and it's nobody's business if you STILL can't compete with them.

 

And drugs-on battles allow you to compete BETTER?  Basically you need the drugs against non-druggers to accomplish anything? PRO battles reward skill, drug battles reward druggers, but no type of battle rewards those with limited cash and limited skill. Why should you get more than the person with more skill? Just keep working at it.

 

What makes you think you should get anything through drugging and limited skill, as you said yourself?

 

My advice: buy the PRO pass, save up wisely and get 1 m1 hull and 1 m1 turret, and play PRO drugs-off MU's off (or on) battles.  You cannot complain there. You cannot whine that the game doesn't reward those with no skill. It shouldn't. That's the point of a competitive game.

Edited December 3, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[GOLD_BOX_TAKEN_BY 584]

Current Tanki online is going to SUICIDE

 

The true fact behind all this nonsense update is growing capital for upcoming TANKI X

As its proved TANKI x not so popular yet. They recognized their mission going to be failure .

they cant shift all player tankionline  to tanki x with their ranking position  they try to create an artificial unhealthy situation from last six month so players  bounded  shift to TANKI X . Tanki x will be not free to play as tankionline was in 2013-14 .

They try to habituated players to be a minimum buyer .  plus they will try make current tanki online as much hard , pay for play situation so new players and old players are automatically shifted to new TANKI X.

[Smooth_Operator 3]

I find this kind of comments going really too far with idea of this game going pay to play.

 

This game is free to play at its core. Free to play games works only if paying users can play alongside non-paying sers. If a large portion of the game will be locked behind pay wall, there will be no players to play that portion. Making this game pay to play will not work. Hence, it will never happen. Keeping pro-pass always accessible with crystals makes perfect sense from both game point of view and business point of view.

 

And it if fair.

I appreciate your opinion.

But, if PRO pass goes to the shop the game still will be ”free” to play.

 

Today I played on my several accounts. Still don't like the new system.

 

I'm happy that I haven't spent any real money on this game.

If it stays the way it is, I'm ready to leave TO for good.

So long… and thanks for all the fish. :)

[beaku 2,656]

 

I appreciate your opinion.

But, if PRO pass goes to the shop the game still will be ”free” to play.

 

No, it won't. Because by moving PRO pass to shop, Tanki will basically be restricting free players from creating battles at all which means that they will be restricted from accessing an important game mechanic. That is not free to play.

[Bydo 20,120]

Tanki will basically be restricting free players from creating battles at all which means that they will be restricted from accessing an important game mechanic. That is not free to play.

 

say what..????

 

did they not just do that with non pro pass players restricting them from creating games ...that use to be free ... now we as players have to either pay with crystals or cash to get a pro pass... there  making us use crystals that we need to buy our garage items with ...

[Smooth_Operator 3]

No, it won't. Because by moving PRO pass to shop, Tanki will basically be restricting free players from creating battles at all which means that they will be restricted from accessing an important game mechanic. That is not free to play.

So… do You think, that creating battles is an important game mechanic?

But now I'm forced to buy PRO pass to reach that important thing. Is it free will of mine? No.

And if I have my PP, still cannot create a normal battle, to invite anybody w/o PP. Tell me more about this free game…

Edited December 3, 2016 by Smooth_Operator

[Flower.Boy 0]

PLLZ tanki, after the balance isida became sooo weakand bad plz increace it damage and self healing

[fei502 9]

Hi, Tanki

 

Recently, there are changes almost every week.

 

Would you please stop fixing non-existing "issues", unless many players start to complain? All these changes just bring in new problems and chaos. For example, you gave the "freezer" too much damage power, then reduced it in a few weeks. Several days ago, you took away the create battle button for ordinary users.

 

I won't spend a penny until Tanki shows a little bit concern to players suggestions.

 

And I don't feel the new changes bring more fun to the game.

 

Thanks!

[Tess_Tickle 12]

I only spent like 4$ on this game and I won't spend any more. I want to win games with my skill not by using tons of drugs. The Pro Pass gives me the ability to join drug-free battles for a price of only 2600 crystals which amount I made in 1 day from Daily Missions and battle fund.

I don't believe you spent only 4$.  To get where you did you spent heavily over the 140 hours during which time you were blasting much weaker tanks.

[misafeco 713]

I don't believe you spent only 4$.  To get where you did you spent heavily over the 140 hours during which time you were blasting much weaker tanks.

I don't really care if you believe me or not.

My full garage was purchased for a grand total of 40k crystals. I wait for the Christmas sale to get an M2 combo for my account.

P.S.: I used less Double Armor and Double Damage (combined) drugs than you despite having more than 5x as much XP and playing more than 5x as much time.