Changes in the battle creation system

[beaku 2,656]

You work for tanki? Seriously, I made maps and invited people. Sometimes it worked and sometimes no, but it was MY CHOICE. I don't think I should have to pay for the same chance of making a map no one plays.

Well, in your own words, you're entitled to your opinion. Objectively however, most players seem to be satisfied with the map diversity. There are, obviously, quite a few drawbacks which have been extensively discussed in previous pages with many solutions proposed. What actually gets implemented remains to be seen.

[misafeco 713]

You're entitled to your opinion. Doesn't change the fact I want to create my own map and can't unless I pay for it. 

You can use ingame currency to buy the Pass. You don't have to pay with real money.

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

Well, in your own words, you're entitled to your opinion. Objectively however, most players seem to be satisfied with the map diversity. There are, obviously, quite a few drawbacks which have been extensively discussed in previous pages with many solutions proposed. What actually gets implemented remains to be seen.

I have to disagree.

From this thread it appears that the massive majority of players do not like this update.

If we are speaking exclusively about the map diversity then i think relatively few people have expressed an opinion either way as they are more concerned with the general flaws in this new update.

I'm not sure if this is a communication issue or what but players want communication from the devs (be this through the mods or whatever).  All we get right now is silence or the mods opinion / interpretation which does noting to answer any of the question that have been raised.

I realise you guys can only go on the limited info you get from the devs but the point is - that is not good enough.

Despite this being a free to play game (in whatever capacity that may be) Tanki si in the business of making money.

 

How can they possibly expect to do this successfully when they do not communicate with the customers?

 

Im truly baffled by this how none of mine and many others concerned can just go unanswered or even acknowledged except by mods that express an opinion or tell us "devs aware but we have no idea what they are going to do or how they feel about this feedbaack".

 

As a previous buyer but not any more i understand i have little right to get upset or complain as i can just stop playing and be no worse off.  Not all people are in this lucky situation having invested significant amount of money in the - THEY DESERVE ANSWERS (and i will just listen also ;) ).

 

Thisis on a par with BT as far as customer service goes lol

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

You can use ingame currency to buy the Pass. You don't have to pay with real money.

True but people dont seem to understand that getting in game currency is important to upgrade or buy new equipment.

If we have to spemd thisin game currency on a pro pass now just to get back to where we were previsously then that is less money to spend on our game items.  Thsi means that to progress at a significant rate i will be more likely to buy in game currency with real currency.

It makes no odds as to how much i can earn back in a month after buying the pro pass - its still less than i would have earnt pre update.

 

Possibly the most important aspects of this game is being able to choose the battle type, rank limit and MAP CHOICE.

All those have been taken away now where previosuly they were available.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

It is rather simple:

If the "vast majority" (loving this term :) ) of all players would love what the battle button does, there would still be 5% Pro battles on each server, like we did before. Well, we have waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy more pro battles then 5% now.

so...

 

Seems that a map distribution that "it is more fair now" does simply not interrest the "vast majority" of the players (but only a small portion + the ones that refuse to purchase a pro pass).

 

 

still I like this update, as the lower pro battle prices + the forcing of players into getting them, finally created a certain mass of pro pass owners, which on the other side is usefull to play drug free battles :)

[Tess_Tickle 12]

Well the good news is there's always some Sandbox battles out there ;)

 

The thing you must understand, is that most players prefer full battles and hate empty ones.  Tanki has to come up with updates that will suit the average and casual tanker as well. You are a special case, and you cannot demand something from TO that way.  If you want to play a special, small-sided battle, buy the PRO pass. But understand that the goal of Tanki is to have full, thriving, active battles. If you want to play a special, small-sided game with friends, thats what the PRO pass is for. :)

A few days ago (against my better judgement) I bought the Pro-Pass with crystals I could ill afford as I was hoping to build up the tank to try to make it competitive against those who spend real money.

 

Thanks for the tip to join Sandbox.  I gave up playing in the sand pit once I passed my 6th birthday.

 

On the rank I use to play (I only use this one to post whinges) there are precisely 5 Pro-Pass battles and 3 of those are Sandbox.

 

I actually was quite happy with the way things were before the Create button was taken away from general players, there were plenty of diverse battles going on with plenty of choice so it would appear I am flogging a dead horse bothering to register my displeasure at the latest changes.

 

I don't wish to play special games as I delete any approaches from those who want to be my "friend" and have never asked to be anybody elses friend, what's the point of that?

Edited December 6, 2016 by Tess_Tickle

[misafeco 713]

True but people dont seem to understand that getting in game currency is important to upgrade or buy new equipment.

If we have to spemd thisin game currency on a pro pass now just to get back to where we were previsously then that is less money to spend on our game items.  Thsi means that to progress at a significant rate i will be more likely to buy in game currency with real currency.

It makes no odds as to how much i can earn back in a month after buying the pro pass - its still less than i would have earnt pre update.

 

Possibly the most important aspects of this game is being able to choose the battle type, rank limit and MAP CHOICE.

All those have been taken away now where previosuly they were available.

I definitely make more crystals now that I can join drug-free battles (and those battles are much more fun anyway).

 

I can see in your profile that you used a tremendous amount of drugs. You either payed for it with ingame or real currency. You can spare a lot of drugs if you play Pro battles.

 

Btw. how can I change the rank limit?

Edited December 6, 2016 by misafeco

[wolverine848 13,097]

True but people dont seem to understand that getting in game currency is important to upgrade or buy new equipment.

If we have to spemd thisin game currency on a pro pass now just to get back to where we were previsously then that is less money to spend on our game items.  Thsi means that to progress at a significant rate i will be more likely to buy in game currency with real currency.

It makes no odds as to how much i can earn back in a month after buying the pro pass - its still less than i would have earnt pre update.

 

Possibly the most important aspects of this game is being able to choose the battle type, rank limit and MAP CHOICE.

All those have been taken away now where previosuly they were available.

If the paying for the Pro Pass allows me to avoid drug-wars then I am likely to come out ahead in the long run.

 

Unfortunately in the short run I am not finding a lot of suitable Pro-Pass battles. Or I create one and takes quite a while for tankers to join.

 

It is a bit of a struggle at moment.

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

Btw. how can I change the rank limit?

There is a slider bar. Move it left/right and you will see the icons change.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

There is a slider bar. Move it left/right and you will see the icons change.

Also, you can click on the arrows on either side and extend the bar for a wider range of ranks, rather than a different one.

[misafeco 713]

There is a slider bar. Move it left/right and you will see the icons change.

LOL, I'm such an idi.ot... I never realized I can move that thing. I just clicked on the arrows and nothing happened.  :lol: 

Edited December 6, 2016 by misafeco

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

I definitely make more crystals now that I can join drug-free battles (and those battles are much more fun anyway).

 

I can see in your profile that you used a tremendous amount of drugs. You either payed for it with ingame or real currency. You can spare a lot of drugs if you play Pro battles.

 

Btw. how can I change the rank limit?

I think i bought 2 1000 drug kits in my playing time.  I also think thet amount of drugs i used would be fairly average but i understand that at your rank it appears huge.  When you get to the higher ranks it will definatley increase for you.

Once i got to gissmo level the drug use was so extreme i have now stopped playing on it.  When facing a gissmo (now legend mainly) with full MU's and extreme drugging it's vitrually impossibe not to drug and be competitive.

I then decided not to buy drugs and just concntrate on Muing as much as i could.

The legend update helped as i could filter out the legend ranks in my battle choice but now i cannot do this so i have just given up and am concentrating on my alt.  I have found drug use has increased drasticaally in the non pro battles sinc this update which is pretty much the 1 positive with the pro pass.

When we had the free pro pass for a week a created many non drug battles (usually drops enabled) but got very very little or no interest inthem so again gave up.

 

As a gissmo i think the pro pass price has come down 150 cry.  I didnt want itbefore so unlikey i would want it now for just a little less.

[Cpt.Mad 21]

Tanki is getting worse and worse, now if I want to play, I have to choose from 3 battles with 1 player on each or buy pro pass just to enter regular battle. Oh, I'm missing that good old times  :(

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

does anyone know how to get the server load stats (saw some posted earlier in this thread

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Tanki is getting worse and worse, now if I want to play, I have to choose from 3 battles with 1 player on each or buy pro pass just to enter regular battle. Oh, I'm missing that good old times  :(

I don't think this is happening to most people. ;).  Actually most battles are more full now.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Kinda like Obama Care   :)  gotta pay if you were born

Good jibe... but in truth the analogy to a tax is really pretty good.

 

I get the feling this PRO Pas is a patchwork fix on an already ... unusual ... system. But it might help matter so long as the 'tax' is very small.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Did you even try them? Just because you never played on that map before and it's not familiar doesn't mean that it's automatically crap. Many maps created by the automatic battle system have amazing gameplay on them and, personally, I've been waiting for years to play some good battles on them, because before the update they never filled up when I created them.

 

Try maps like Bobruisk, Solikamsk, Brest, Kolhoz, Industrial Zone. They're really fun once you figure out how to get around them.

There are very few maps I find inherently bad. And that rate of success is incredibly good in gaming. That is why I remain dumbfounded that the developers are cool with seeing all that good work of their ignored!

 

Few maps are bad though some are far more fun according to format.  My issue is not with playing on Polygon. My issue is so damn many games played on so few maps the repetition kills the spirit.

 

The PRO Pass is actually soundling less a patchwrok approach than it did just minutes ago when I posted last. Hmm...

[LittleWillie 3,199]

 

I have a YouTube channel and I do tanki battles. Since this update I cant find certain maps to do parkour and OMP. I cant get a PRO pass because I am saving up for m1 rail and hornet. Since this update it has only been making me want to give up on it. It has been my favourite game so far because you can do so much. By this update you are literally destroying tanki from the inside. Sure, putting the battle button up has been an okay addition, but getting rid of the create battles button for non-PRO players is just spoiling it. I think tanki producers should've thought this through a lot more because it has been causing a lot problems and they needed to think of all the soon-to-be famous youtubers like me. If they at least made an addition like putting all the maps back in, that would be sufficient enough.

 

This change is like a big rock thrown in a tiny pond. The splash was big and the waves are still rocking to and fro. We don't know how many people will decide to buy and use the PRO Pass. This change will work or fail depending on sufficient numbers of players finding the new system useful.

 

But until all the big crazy riples from the splash settle down we will not know the answer. So I am still giving it time to shake out.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I made a battle with only 3 available empty spaces and i invited my friends before others did.

It had worked perfectly before.

BEFORE 

So all of you buy a PRO Pass and the problem is solved..

 

That is the way the system is intended to work. Why not try it?

 

..

 

I should have read you next post. I do agree the cost of the Pass should be halved again. But even at this price you can afford it. The Pass lasts for 30 days. During that time if you do your daily missions you will have PLENTY of Crystals. I promise you. I did the same thng with my SgtMajor account. He's WO4 now with m1_24/50 hull and m1_17/50 turret and IRC over 85k in the bank to his next upgrade at 2LT.

 

Buy a Pro Pass, do your daily missions Then do Parkour with your friends in your extra play time. I will eat my hat if you are not successful.

Edited December 6, 2016 by LittleWillie

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Regarding Poly SP, Island, Parkour etc

 

Now those players can buy a PRO Pass at a nominal cost and find those exact same games. Meanwhile more casual players are not FORCED to select from almost nothing but meatgrinders.

 

 

What Tanki is trying to do here is say the are TWO groups of players each who like different things. So here's two categories for you. Now both categories can find the games they want.

 

The cost? maybe 1% or 2% of your monthly income. Seems like worth trying instead of crying, to me.

 

Neither side is the side with the "right opinion" as so many messages here seem to suggest. 

[LittleWillie 3,199]

You're entitled to your opinion. Doesn't change the fact I want to create my own map and can't unless I pay for it. 

Unless you pay for it in Crystals.  Like you had to do to get a m1 hull. And I suspect some of those 848 mines you've used. You are complaining about using in-game currency to buy an in-game item. That is what in-game currency is for. This complaint isn't valid. Sorry.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Also, you can click on the arrows on either side and extend the bar for a wider range of ranks, rather than a different one.

never knew that!

[GeeVuh 1,647]

never knew that!

You got to Major without knowing? Wow... no offense btw  :unsure:

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

^ took me about the same time.. i never created battles, but justed picked them carefully by the time then.. I didnt know that for a long time

[DrSaint 176]

Day 6th, I am still against this "Changes in the battle creation system"!

some fellows are singing in chorus, to earn a minor amount of crystals, Please don't mind them! ;)

Edited December 6, 2016 by DrSaint