Changes in the battle creation system

[LittleWillie 3,199]

The original 1 or 10 drystal boxes were not the problem. The camping on crystal box sites started for the most part when there was, guess what, an update! This particular update changed the way the regular crystal boxes were dropped. Before, all boxes were 10 crystals. After, the boxes were anyting between 1 and 100. This was a disaster for the gameplay. What the devs did? Did they return the boxes of 10? Noooo, they decided to remove the boxes completely and told us that the value will be added to the game fund. So, instead of admitting a mistake, devs covered up their own behinds and chagned a big part of the game mechanics. Previously, everyone had a chance to collect a few extra crystals despite the placement at the end of the round. After the "upgrade", only the best were collecting the benefits. Fair? No. Sensible? Not really. Rage-quit? Almost.

 

The devs claim they know all about the game mechanics and probably so. But if they claim to know how players will react to all the changes in the game, they should get their heads checked.

Yes, the key to proving a tank combat game is to ensure a constant rain of magic money boxes falls from the sky.

 

I wouldn't play this game if that described Tanki "combat". Play Foo-Foo The Magic Mushroom Fairy if you want to play a game about catching boxes. There's a million games like that out there. Sheet.

[Killrats_1 3]

The fact that we must PAY to play on a map that I create is VERY poor judgment.

 

It leads to no be able to go to maps that you need to complete missions.

 

It;s making many users go to other game for online experience.

 

It NEEDS to be changed back for the BEST gaming experience!!

[misafeco 713]

The fact that we must PAY to play on a map that I create is VERY poor judgment.

 

It leads to no be able to go to maps that you need to complete missions.

 

It;s making many users go to other game for online experience.

 

It NEEDS to be changed back for the BEST gaming experience!!

Map missions were removed.

 

Also you don't have to pay with real currency for Pro Pass, you only need to spend crystals on it.

[Annihalator1685 1]

Hello,

I have been active in this game for quite some time now which has provided certain characteristics such as the ability to create new battles, determining the range of ranks permitted to participate and also the number of participants in a game/

I have already paid $$$ to upgrade my tank, as it is quite impossible to get anywhere if you're only playing as a non - paying user, which is quite acceptable as many efforts and expertise are invested in creating and maintaining a game such as this one. To describe this game as a "free cost game" is only a strategy to draw people into the game and once they're hooked they'll pay to get upgrades. This is also OK because the game can only exist because of the paying participants.

What I criticize however is that you have changed the fundamental characteristics of the game, essentially creating a downgrade which is unacceptable. In order to retain the functionality of being able to create specific battles, with a set number of participants with a particular range of rank I now have to pay extra money. This is not an upgrade of the system, it's a downgrade and a considerable one.

It may be OK to introduce this to non - paying free users but I have already paid at least twice as much as what any top ranking playstation game out there costs, so to impose this downgrade on customers who have already paid an X amount of money to play the game in a certain given environment is unacceptable. 

It is quite OK to create new guidelines and conditions for new customers and they can choose whether to accept them or not but it is unethical to impose downgrades on existing paying customers. Admittedly I am anticipating my next higher rank which will enable me to upgrade my tank, and I will have to pay actual  $$$ to do so effectively but now I'm not so sure I'll even do that. Who knows what the next downgrade will bring? 

My message to you is: When you make a change in the game create an UPGRADE, not a downgrade!!!

 

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

My gosh, it is really difficult to get into a good battle....only peak play times are there enough players and  then the Pro Battles are filled with 999 minutes 500 points in CP, drugs/no drugs....it all  goes to make it frustrating to play Tanki any more.  I loved this game but it has gone to hell.  Why have you guys done this?  It is SO BAD....WHY?

 

In non-peak playing times it's hard to find a battle in regular or in Pro.  I can create a battle, but then it's sit and wait and wairt and wait then one guy will come in for a minute or two and leave.  If you look at the server load on non-peak times there is just a trickle of players....maybe get rid on 70% of your servers.  Players are spread out over 30 servers, some play in regular battles, some play in Pro.  In Pro, there aare way too many types of battles so the pie of players gets sliced even thinner.

 

First the Nerf-fest now this ridiculous Pro-Pass thing.  I'll give you guys the price of a ProPass every month but please bring back the ability to create regular games this is awful...it is a failure. 

 

The default time in Pro Games is too long...30 minutes by default.  People crete these battle and don't bother changing the default....shorten it to 10-15-20 minutes...30 min by default is too long.  People can still choose 30 minutes or 999 minutes but make the damn default 10-15-20 minutes.  The pause is too short....we need at least 3 minutes.  Your pop up "60 sec left" hits you while you are waiting to get into garage.   2 minutes is too short...5 minutes was probably too long but it would come into play with these 999 minute games...everybody gotta pee sometime.

 

I feel disappointed, powerless and frustrated...

[newrohan 1,040]

everybody gotta pee sometime

I totally agree

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Then dont play anymore if the whole thing just pisses you off, ya know, rather than complaining.

 

Maybe put your name to good use with this!

Edited December 9, 2016 by Epic_Space_Mango18

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Then dont play anymore if the whole thing just pisses you off, ya know, rather than complaining.

 

Maybe put your name to good use with this!

Yeah, leave rather than giving constructive criticism which could help the game become better and help other players with the same problems. Not very mature of you. 

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Yeah, leave rather than giving constructive criticism which could help the game become better and help other players with the same problems. Not very mature of you. 

So why didn't you? You took the time to comment here :3

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

So why didn't you? Why didn't I what?  You took the time to comment here :3 I commented to help you understand that just because somebody has said something about the game which they don't like, doesn't mean that they hate the game, want to leave, or have to leave.

[Ninja 10,468]

 

I can totally relate to that, sometimes I login and just complete my missions the spend the rest of my time chatting to friends. :( The only decent battles I've been in recently are those which have YT'ers in them, so they fill-up quick.

[CooperO 7,956]

 

 

My gosh, it is really difficult to get into a good battle....only peak play times are there enough players and  then the Pro Battles are filled with 999 minutes 500 points in CP, drugs/no drugs....it all  goes to make it frustrating to play Tanki any more.  I loved this game but it has gone to hell.  Why have you guys done this?  It is SO BAD....WHY?

 

In non-peak playing times it's hard to find a battle in regular or in Pro.  I can create a battle, but then it's sit and wait and wairt and wait then one guy will come in for a minute or two and leave.  If you look at the server load on non-peak times there is just a trickle of players....maybe get rid on 70% of your servers.  Players are spread out over 30 servers, some play in regular battles, some play in Pro.  In Pro, there aare way too many types of battles so the pie of players gets sliced even thinner.

 

First the Nerf-fest now this ridiculous Pro-Pass thing.  I'll give you guys the price of a ProPass every month but please bring back the ability to create regular games this is awful...it is a failure. 

 

The default time in Pro Games is too long...30 minutes by default.  People crete these battle and don't bother changing the default....shorten it to 10-15-20 minutes...30 min by default is too long.  People can still choose 30 minutes or 999 minutes but make the damn default 10-15-20 minutes.  The pause is too short....we need at least 3 minutes.  Your pop up "60 sec left" hits you while you are waiting to get into garage.   2 minutes is too short...5 minutes was probably too long but it would come into play with these 999 minute games...everybody gotta pee sometime.

 

I feel disappointed, powerless and frustrated...

 

 

Topic merged.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

Battle! button is cool but why removing all the little possibilities we had left when out of crystals for PRO? This feels like we are paying taxes to TO.

[Dies-Irae 49]

Yes, the key to proving a tank combat game is to ensure a constant rain of magic money boxes falls from the sky.

 

I wouldn't play this game if that described Tanki "combat". Play Foo-Foo The Magic Mushroom Fairy if you want to play a game about catching boxes. There's a million games like that out there. Sheet.

You missed my point almost completely, congratulations. I never said I want the old system back. My point is on how the devs try to upgrade the game when they think they know the best, but there has been numerous occasions that they did not. The unpredictable part of the game mechanics is the players and their behavior. Like the example of the crystal boxes. The old system was kind of ok, no big faults. The devs tried to upgrade it, but made the gameplay actually a lot worse because of the crystal drop zone campers. Since the crystal boxes were quite soon removed completely instead of reverting back to the old system hints to me that either the whole thing was just an excuse to remove the cystal boxes completely (wich I doubt) or just plain annoyance/whine/rage-quit to the players behavior.

 

The original post in this thread had to do with why the crystal boxes were removed, but the post lacked a lot of details. I gave you the details since I remember the incident. I also remember the gameplay and I am not sad that the cystal boxes were removed. But for someone who was not a good player at the time probably was sad to see the boxes go, since that player could not win matches for whatever reason. Just to give you an example that most of the upgrades have positive and negative sides. Most probably the devs think about these and weight the risks etc. (or at least they should), but not all reactions can be anticipated

 

Back to the topic of this thread, the removal of "Create" -button  and forcing players to buy PRO-pass. In my opinion this upgrade sucks big time. Previously on this thread there was a claim that this was done to make things less complex for noobs, but I think this was just a truckload of you-know-what. If and when a new player buys his first pro-pass, there is nothing but complexity compared to the Battle-button. Even when browsing through all the battles I now have to check for several more parameters when I decide if it is a battle I want to join or not. Map, duration, team member ranks, distribution of xp, supplies/no supplies, drops/no drops etc. Now I have to jump from server to server to find the battles I like a lot more than I had to before the upgrade. Just more complexity.

 

All in all, I have played a lot less since this upgrade and will not spend more real money on the game. Your loss, TO.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

This feels like we are paying taxes to TO.

^ you do

 

(ok, actually you don't :P... it's just a reduction of free available features, that can be purchased back)

Edited December 9, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Dab1810 5]

They are not going t change it. This is clearly only part of a bigger implementation only partial done.

 

A player who plays only on weekends has no need to buy a Pass. Problem solved.

 

Sounds like you think a PRO Pass costs real money. It does not.

 

Those friends could not play together without "spending" already. Not unless every one of you has a m0 smoky/hunter, no MUs, no protection modules, green paint ad evry Crystal you ever earned in the bank.  So you don't mind spending Crystals. The Pass is no different.

 

Crystals are in the game to be spent. Duh.

crystals might be in the game to be spent... but i think that they are supposed to be more than spending things. for example, if someone wants to get a m1,2, or 3, they have to have crystals. if they need crystals than they need to save. but if everything where they can actually get crystals is pro battle than there's no reason to get anything, much less play the game. i think people need to spend more time saving than spending. this update isn't doing that. if someone cant get crystals except from a pro battle, y waste crystals that they could use for other things?? if the tanki people did this so we would get more careful about spending money, than they need to realize that we know how to save.

 

we need crystals for more than just m1's and other things, and if we're smart we'll save! we don't need to bullied into saving our crystals to get a pro pass, just so we can join battles we need. if this took a long time to read srry but i think its really important that people create battles they want, not get forced to join other battles they don't.

[Dab1810 5]

You can't buy a pro pass because you are saving up. What they want is you to take out real money and buy crystals. This is the desired result in making you purchase a propass. Some will do it, some will not and just quit. As for me I hardly ever find a battle I need. If it don't change back I'll just drop out like most will do. I don't understand why tanki don't get money from advertising. If you have a lot of players you can earn quit a bit from that alone.

if the tanki people think that everyone has money that plays the game, they're wrong. i might have money, but if i dont have a card than i cant buy any of the stuff that people who have lots of money to spend think they are gettingat the same time everyone else can. maybe i can. i can, except i cant because of the amount of crystals it takes.

 

by the way i have been wondering.... what good purpose does this update have??? or is there any purpose at all :??

Edited December 9, 2016 by Dab1810

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

by the way i have been wondering.... what good purpose does this update have??? or is there any purpose at all :??

To make the battles easier...simpler...more active/full...and more diverse in terms of map settings. :)  

[Sl0m0_warri0r 129]

You can't buy a pro pass because you are saving up. What they want is you to take out real money and buy crystals. This is the desired result in making you purchase a propass. Some will do it, some will not and just quit. As for me I hardly ever find a battle I need. If it don't change back I'll just drop out like most will do. I don't understand why tanki don't get money from advertising. If you have a lot of players you can earn quit a bit from that alone.

Too true.

I have been arguing about this for ages now yet no result.

At least I have someone who agrees with me. :( 

[Sl0m0_warri0r 129]

To make the battles easier...simpler...more active/full...and more diverse in terms of map settings. :)

Ye, so getting rid of the create button is supposed to make stuff easier?

It sounds like Tanki is starting to get greedy for REAL money.

FIND THE REAL REASON TANKI.

BEFORE I AND MANY OTHERS LEAVE.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Ye, so getting rid of the create button is supposed to make stuff easier?

It sounds like Tanki is starting to get greedy for REAL money.

FIND THE REAL REASON TANKI.

BEFORE I AND MANY OTHERS LEAVE.

You are I will just have to disagree. I'm not saying the update is perfect and the devs are angels and all the things they do are headed in the right direction.  However, I am pleased with the results. If you are not, that's your opinion. We don't have to argue.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Ye, so getting rid of the create button is supposed to make stuff easier?

It sounds like Tanki is starting to get greedy for REAL money.

FIND THE REAL REASON TANKI.

BEFORE I AND MANY OTHERS LEAVE.

If 3,000 or 5,000 Cr is enough to make you quit playing then ...

 

quit.

[Creeperjockey 6]

So I am going to be th optimistic one and hope Tanki puts the battle creation feature back in the game 

and does the right thing for all the players.

[Sl0m0_warri0r 129]

If 3,000 or 5,000 Cr is enough to make you quit playing then ...

 

quit.

If Tanki ruins your YouTube channel, parkour interest and your interest in the game itself then......

 

How would you feel?

[Sl0m0_warri0r 129]

You are I will just have to disagree. I'm not saying the update is perfect and the devs are angels and all the things they do are headed in the right direction.  However, I am pleased with the results. If you are not, that's your opinion. We don't have to argue.

Actually, this update may of had some good results when it came to new players playing, and I just wanted the create button back though.

That's literally all I want. And I am not exactly trying to argue, I was just wanting to state how I feel about this update and begging the administrators and developers to change it. XD

But I have noticed that many people do not appreciate this update as well as myself. I hope tanki adds the create button back again soon.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sl0m0_warri0r