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I hope someone brings this to the attention of the sales/accounting/income staff.

 

My daughter discovered Tanki about six months ago or so.  We have both enjoyed playing Tanki very much; so much so that I was about to buy her and myself $100 worth of crystals and ten gold boxes to drop...so about $220 with both accounts.  I had already witnessed a change in the paint separation to modules.  I heard about the re-balance and decided to hold off a bit before buying crystals.  I didn't and don't like the re-balance.  If I had paid real money to buy and upgrade equipment and then see it made virtually useless (we both play primarily with Twins) I would be angry. Now another major change is about to alter the game, seeming for the worse despite the managements tepid spin of improvement (also annoying...everyone is aware that this is a profit driven world and Tanki needs to get paid too). And, on top of that, in this thread, there are ominous hints at even more changes to come!  My daughter and I will continue to play Tanki, but only as a non-cash players

 

Bottom line for the money folk to consider:  

I want to know what I am buying when I make a purchase.  Tanki changes too much to invest in...one never knows what it will become.  Tanki lost $220 in revenue from me and how much more from others overall?  Can you generate enough new players to make up for loss of revenue from old established players (I can't imagine how cheated high rank players feel)?  Most people are adverse to change (me for one) and Tanki changes dramatically monthly.  

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I can not believe what I just read. Is this some kind of mistake or what?!

 

 

 

I AGREE PUT THE CREATE BATTLE BUTTON BACK FOR NORMAL PEOPLE I WANT TO PICK A MAP AND PLAYER AMOUNT AND SO ON I HATE THIS NEW UPDATE

SINCE I STARTED PLAYING IT WAS PERFECT FOR ME NOW THEY ARE WANTING TO MAKE IT SOOOOO CLOSE TO A PAY TO PLAY IT IS OUTRAGEOUS

HELP SPREAD THE WORD PROTEST IS ON THE WAY FOR MODS AND OTHER DEVS ABOUT IN GAME PLAY

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This is a very strange and weird sideways shift... its definately not an upgrade.  While over all, it doesn't appear to make that huge a difference, I'm inclined to agree with the missions difficulty for map specific missions and battle types.  If the battle button is random, then you're going to have to keep pushing until it sends you to the map you need, hoping it will create the battle you want.  In the short term we're lucky everyone has pro passes, after that... it looks all over.  Unless you also have the "battle button" take into account outstanding missions when allocating you to another battle.

 

Lots of Love

 

Aunty

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As I have said previously, tanki developers are desperate for money.  So this game is no longer free no matter how they want to sugar-coat it.  What do you mean I cannot create a battle for my favorite map? Why do I have to put up with the system sending me wherever it think it is appropriate for my rank? Seriously? Why only the Pro pass holders can create battles? So this game is no longer free because if you do not have enough crystal to buy a pro pass then you have to pay real money to get it! So how is this game free?

Well, adios tanki!  You will be left with those who are willing to pay to play your game.  I guess that is one way to reduce the lag!  Ha ha ha! 

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Everyone, PLEASE, when you are creating battles, take a chance and turn off supplies. Just played like 3 rounds of a Rio CTF game with supplies and MUs off, and it was definitely one of the best battles I have been in this year. I would love to see actual options for battles with no supplies. Lets get atleast 1 good think out of this update.

 

Supplies off = more fun.

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This update is getting better and better, but I want to get relevant answers on the following questions:

 

1. Will I be able to join Pro Battles even if I don't have a Pro Pass?

 

2. Can I create Pro Battles for free without buying a Pro Pass?

 

Please explain to me further because I want to know all the benefits about this update and being able to use a Pro Pass for free.

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This update is getting better and better, but I want to get relevant answers on the following questions:

 

1. Will I be able to join Pro Battles even if I don't have a Pro Pass?

 

2. Can I create Pro Battles for free without buying a Pro Pass?

 

Please explain to me further because I want to know all the benefits about this update and being able to use a Pro Pass for free.

No, and no. Theres a reason the pass exists in the first place.

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This update is getting better and better, but I want to get relevant answers on the following questions:

 

1. Will I be able to join Pro Battles even if I don't have a Pro Pass?

 

2. Can I create Pro Battles for free without buying a Pro Pass?

 

Please explain to me further because I want to know all the benefits about this update and being able to use a Pro Pass for free.

no and no, you are poor

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First battle after the last update. One of the good thing is, no more useless limit to 100 points in CP or 10 flags. Players are creating pro battles with the settings of "normal" 15 minutes battles and there is not this 100 cp limit anymore, that's good.
 
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So all the poor people or (those who want to save their crystals instead of buy a pro pass) are gonna be grouped together in random maps where their loadout will have let's say a 50% chance of needing to be changed (from the start) because the map may be too big or small for their current loadout. So they will have to wait for the load time for the garage to switch equipment and then afterwards those players are just gonna run into the drugger remnant who aren't playing in pro battles and have no need to in the first place? Feed the non pro pass users directly to the sharks why don't ya.

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So all the poor people or (those who want to save their crystals instead of buy a pro pass) are gonna be grouped together in random maps where their loadout will have let's say a 50% chance of needing to be changed (from the start) because the map may be too big or small for their current loadout. So they will have to wait for the load time for the garage to switch equipment and then afterwards those players are just gonna run into the drugger remnant who aren't playing in pro battles and have no need to in the first place? Feed the non pro pass users directly to the sharks why don't ya.

 

The Pro Battle pass is really cheap now man, not a problem.

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Hmm... I can't actually can't play the game as I don't have much access to a computer and won't for some time (although I am actually typing out this reply via computer... Irony?), so I don't know how this'll work out and how I'll feel about it. Personally, I don't think it'll affect me because when my PRO battle pass runs out I just buy one without even thinking. And if you look at it like that, I'm actually gaining from this update, because the PRO pass is actually cheaper for my rank now.

 

However, I do understand that they are many players (most of which are probably in the mid-ranks) who do NOT by PRO passes but still want to create their own, slightly custom battles. For such players, this probably looks like nothing more of a thing to add to the "another thing for buyers" rant, and isn't the greatest update out there.

 

==EDIT==

 

I'd also like to add (on a slightly "saltier" note) that if you are one of those players who disagree with this update, give it a day or two, you won't care at all.

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1. "without having to worry about which map or mode to choose, or how to set the rank bracket or number of players."

Major lies. No one ever worried about this. Now most of us are worried that we will not be able to find a battle we like and if we do not like what's available, we cannot create the map we want. It is all about money and you are all dishonest people.

 

2. "For this reason, the “Create Battle” button will now become a Premium/PRO Pass feature"

The only reason for this is because you need money and you are forcing players to buy Pro Pass. Be honest and tell the truth and do not feed us lies.

 

3. "Passes will start at a price of 500 crystals for Recruits, and will increase in price by 150 crystals with every rank until reaching the original price of 5000 crystals"

In other words, we are screwed! So you have a mission that pays 450 crystals and you have to spend 500 crystals to buy a Pro Pass! I can see how that makes sense to an *****! Some of us do not have the time to play 3 or 4 hours a day. we do our missions and get out. Even the 3 hours Premium Account awards are useless for us.

 

4. "Since the introduction of the “Battle” button, our statistics have clearly shown that the vast majority of our players prefer to use this mechanism to join battles."

here is another big lie! This button was introduced a few weeks ago and you cannot possible have enough stats to validate your statement. Even if there is an indication that "the vast majority" uses it, it may be because it is new and everyone tried it out. I know I did a few times, but I stopped using it because it took me to maps that I did not care to play.

5. "However, players often use the “Create Battle” button to create special non-PRO battles, such as 1 vs 1 duels and unofficial format battles (such as Save the Gold and Tanki Sumo). Since these are non-PRO battles, players who press the “Battle” button will often end up in these very specific battles, ruining the fun for the organizers"

Another false statement. This can be solve by simple programming a option to create a battle that players can join by invitation only. Too simple for you to think outside the box?

6. "the system will automatically create a standard battle for you, and start sending other players your way."

In other words it will create a map that I do not care to play and it will send me players that most likely do not want to play either! I can see that this makes sense in some universe, but no this one.

7. "However, this is a step in the direction of simplifying the game for new users"

By taking away their choices of maps? Seriously?

8. "Of course, following the update, we will be monitoring the situation very closely and making adjustments as required."

I am sure you will, but by the time you figure out that you have lost the majority of old players, it would be too late. But then again, this is one way to reduce the lag!

 

This is becoming a disaster. Not only you screwed us royally by re-balancing the turrets and hulls and we lost a significant investments in turrets like isida, but you made such a significant change without input from the players.

My conclusion has been for quite a few months ago that you are driving towards to PAY and Play model and your actions speak much clearer than the words you provide.

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Hmm... I can't actually can't play the game as I don't have much access to a computer and won't for some time (although I am actually typing out this reply via computer... Irony?), so I don't know how this'll work out and how I'll feel about it. Personally, I don't think it'll affect me because when my PRO battle pass runs out I just buy one without even thinking. And if you look at it like that, I'm actually gaining from this update, because the PRO pass is actually cheaper for my rank now.

 

However, I do understand that they are many players (most of which are probably in the mid-ranks) who do NOT by PRO passes but still want to create their own, slightly custom battles. For such players, this probably looks like nothing more of a thing to add to the "another thing for buyers" rant, and isn't the greatest update out there.

 

==EDIT==

 

I'd also like to add (on a slightly "saltier" note) that if you are one of those players who disagree with this update, give it a day or two, you won't care at all.

Spoken like a true buyer!  This validates the thought that tanki is geared to PAY and Play model for player like you.  Some of us however, are here for fun and not to pay for a game that is nothing but glitchy and very poorly programmed.  If I want to pay for games I will invest in an XBOX or Playstation.

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Spoken like a true buyer!  This validates the thought that tanki is geared to PAY and Play model for player like you.  Some of us however, are here for fun and not to pay for a game that is nothing but glitchy and very poorly programmed.  If I want to pay for games I will invest in an XBOX or Playstation.

The question remains:

 

"If the game is so horribly programmed, and has so many flaws and glitches, why do you play it?"

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