Changes in the battle creation system

[Frestor_jfdm 0]

yes... well... i like to complete all of my daily missions because i getting much items like cry and everything in one or two maps,but... well... someone of us need to removing these missions of exps from maps,the battle button don't take us on the map where they need help with our daily missions,they can only an random of maps except the one where they need.

[bozo88 450]

Try En3

[Frestor_jfdm 0]

i can't complete the cologne mission,please,remove the maps missions like exps in brest and exps in sandbox etc... because the ''Battle!'' button take us on random maps so these missions don't work anymore.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

i can't complete the cologne mission,please,remove the maps missions like exps in brest and exps in sandbox etc... because the ''Battle!'' button take us on random maps so these missions don't work anymore.

Lol just join a Cologne battle manually instead of using the battle button.

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

I acknowledge and appreciate your feedback. However, the communication gap occurs because players think like players and developers think like developers. Devs have long term plans and know exactly how each feature affects the game mechanics. They see the big picture and they also see the numbers. Players like you and me, on the other hand, have our personal experience with the feature. Both point of views are necessary to ensure development of any game.

As for this update, the reason devs haven't said anything like, "We're sorry..." is because the update is going as intended (At least, for last week. What happens this week and later when all players don't have PRO passes remains to be seen). Most players are seeing only one fact: They have to pay to create battles now. And they don't like it. That's why many posts are pointless hate spewing. However, we also have a lot of players like yourself who are(or at least try to be) calm and level headed. These feedbacks are both negative and positive in nature and both have been passed on to developers by us (that's kinda what a moderator does). So, all said and done, devs have a lot of feedback from the community but it just takes time to go through it and implement any changes (if required).

I (like any other logical person) know that the update isn't perfect and could do well with some more changes. But it's headed in the right direction for now. The reason you see mods speaking in favour of most updates is because most of the time, we're trying to explain things to players who are spewing hatred for illogical reasons. If they start supporting all updates with same enthusiasm, perhaps you'll see us doing the opposite and pointing out flaws in each update xD.

Nice response thanks Beaku

 

So I am online now and currently the situation is as follows.

I wish to play in an EN server - that is my preference.

As a non pro player:

EN1 - 8 battles of which 3 are full

EN2 - 8 battles of which 2 are full

EN3 - 2 battles

EN4 - 0 battles.

 

In total in the top 4 servers i have 13 battles to choose from - none of which are my preferred maps.

Of those 13 , 3 are CP which i do not enjoy - so now down to 10.

 

Also even including the pro battle the number of available battles are much much less than previously.

 

Of the 10 left i have a choice of 8 maps as 2 are duplicated so effectively 8 choices.

 

I'm just not sure how this can be called a success.

 

You mention that the changes are going well according to the Devs hopes - can you share exactly what those hopes are ?

 

Is it more people buying Pro passes, less battles active, more income (revenue be it CRY  or Cash money?

 

I honestly do not think it can be called a success in the general scale of things as people are not enjoying it.

 

Personally I have dislike pretty much all the recent updates but at least i have been able to give myself some chance of entering battles i enjoy so minimizing my pain if you will but now even that is taken away from me so if i want to play a certain type of battle that just doesn't happen to be active i have no option other than to quit.

 

It truly has ruined my playing experience and i do not want to buy pro pass as (however small it may be ) this takes valuable funds away from allowing me to buy new equipment or MU it to be competitive with other players my rank (or at least kind of competitive).

What motivation is there for me to spend funds (either real or crystal on new equipment when i know that it is going to be UP for a long time as i cannot afford to upgrade it and earning CRY is now even harder and less enjoyable?

 

Thanks

[digitalmojo 7]

This is a disaster i just dont want to play the game anymore, being able to create a game was an intrinsic standard feature and a valuable one, to me anyway. It seems that the powers that be arent making enough money at this game so they decide to hit us with a stealth charge. Im out ! will look in from time to time to see if common sense has prevailed and the create feature has been reinstalled but until this happens "NOPE"

[falcosenna1 8,320]

This 'Battle' option is wonderful. :)

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

This 'Battle' option is wonderful. :)

Can you elaborate on why you think this?

Do you also have a pro pass?

 

Thanks

[Totalitytom 0]

Nice response thanks Beaku

 

So I am online now and currently the situation is as follows.

I wish to play in an EN server - that is my preference.

As a non pro player:

EN1 - 8 battles of which 3 are full

EN2 - 8 battles of which 2 are full

EN3 - 2 battles

EN4 - 0 battles.

 

In total in the top 4 servers i have 13 battles to choose from - none of which are my preferred maps.

Of those 13 , 3 are CP which i do not enjoy - so now down to 10.

 

Also even including the pro battle the number of available battles are much much less than previously.

 

Of the 10 left i have a choice of 8 maps as 2 are duplicated so effectively 8 choices.

 

I'm just not sure how this can be called a success.

 

You mention that the changes are going well according to the Devs hopes - can you share exactly what those hopes are ?

 

Is it more people buying Pro passes, less battles active, more income (revenue be it CRY  or Cash money?

 

I honestly do not think it can be called a success in the general scale of things as people are not enjoying it.

 

Personally I have dislike pretty much all the recent updates but at least i have been able to give myself some chance of entering battles i enjoy so minimizing my pain if you will but now even that is taken away from me so if i want to play a certain type of battle that just doesn't happen to be active i have no option other than to quit.

 

It truly has ruined my playing experience and i do not want to buy pro pass as (however small it may be ) this takes valuable funds away from allowing me to buy new equipment or MU it to be competitive with other players my rank (or at least kind of competitive).

What motivation is there for me to spend funds (either real or crystal on new equipment when i know that it is going to be UP for a long time as i cannot afford to upgrade it and earning CRY is now even harder and less enjoyable?

 

Thanks

I too have put up with previous changes that I didn't like, but this latest change I hate. I completely agree with Redinezak_EN.  I just don't enjoy the game as is stands - I don't have a Pro pass and I don't understand why the crystals I bought in good faith under the old regime (intended for upgrading my tank) now have to be used to allow me to enter a game that suits me rather than a game that is almost dictated to.me.  Can I get a refund?

[falcosenna1 8,320]

Can you elaborate on why you think this?

Do you also have a pro pass?

 

Thanks

In the past, I had a hard time finding equal battles and I had a lot of issues with mults being dropped in my team and a drugteam in the opponent team. Thanks to this option, those problems vanished as snow for the sun. Of course it has its cons, but the pros dominate for me. And yeah, I always buy a PRO pass. :p

Edited December 2, 2016 by falcosenna1

[Rooky 414]

Finally, more players will have pro pass. Easier to join non-drug battles

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

In the past, I had a hard time finding equal battles and I had a lot of issues with mults being dropped in my team and a drugteam in the opponent team. Thanks to this option, those problems vanished as snow for the sun. Of course it has its cons, but the pros dominate for me. And yeah, I always buy a PRO pass. :P

Point taken thanks for explaining.

I do wonder however if you would feel the same if you were a non pro user?

[Major-Damage 0]

this was my favorite game but my pocket money done go that far. i have to leave now   :blush: 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

this was my favorite game but my pocket money done go that far. i have to leave now   :blush:

You don't need money to play.....but it sure helps

[wolverine848 13,097]

Lol just join a Cologne battle manually instead of using the battle button.

Might depend on time of day and how many users logged in.

 

Last night I needed Red Alert. Finally bought a Pro Pass to 1) create games I need and 2) try to stay away from drug wars

 

Created a game with no supplies - 20 min - waited at least 6 min. No one joins.

Did some other maps for other mission.

Created another Red Alert with no supplies - 20 min - two people joined. They stayed one game. Still need Red Alert.

Caved and searched RU servers. Found one Red Alert - ranks mostly higher than me - Drug War. Didn't stay long.

 

Still need to complete Red Alert mission.  :angry: 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Might depend on time of day and how many users logged in.

 

Last night I needed Red Alert. Finally bought a Pro Pass to 1) create games I need and 2) try to stay away from drug wars

 

Created a game with no supplies - 20 min - waited at least 6 min. No one joins.

Did some other maps for other mission.

Created another Red Alert with no supplies - 20 min - two people joined. They stayed one game. Still need Red Alert.

Caved and searched RU servers. Found one Red Alert - ranks mostly higher than me - Drug War. Didn't stay long.

 

Still need to complete Red Alert mission.  :angry: 

It is a problem, the battle button should create games on all mission maps or map-based missions need to be rarer.... On my highest account I had an Industrial Zone mission....3 days ago I got it and still haven't been able to complete it. However, I am not that active.

[falcosenna1 8,320]

Point taken thanks for explaining.

I do wonder however if you would feel the same if you were a non pro user?

A negative point for non-PRO-users is that you cannot create battles yourself. As I never did that (with success), I don't mind if I'd lose that option. :p

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

A negative point for non-PRO-users is that you cannot create battles yourself. As I never did that (with success), I don't mind if I'd lose that option. :P

It's crucial to completing drop-box missions. Other than that, it's good.

[falcosenna1 8,320]

It's crucial to completing drop-box missions. Other than that, it's good.

I'm more the kind of player to complete those missions in regular battles, but I understand this is a loss for you.    :ph34r:

Edited December 2, 2016 by falcosenna1

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

A negative point for non-PRO-users is that you cannot create battles yourself. As I never did that (with success), I don't mind if I'd lose that option. :P

But when there are such limited non pro battles available it becomes more of a loss.

The creating battles option is just 1 thing that is missing - losing access to thethe wide variety of battles is even harder to swallow.

I think if you were a non pro player you might understand the pain a little :)

[madalien 30]

Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate this.

 

So few choices worth playing, so hard to achieve missions, so much swapping servers looking for a battle that gives a sensible chance of a return on time playing.

[bozo88 450]

DOWN WITH DRUGS

and any, once I hit L2 I was gonna buy a pro pass anyway. I haven't spent a single ¢ of real dinero on TO, and I am happy. I'm also nto a twelve year old who is lead around by the nose. Limiting battle creation to pro passers is dumb, IMO. But let me point out, you can complete the first 9 ranks in one month, on a 250 crystal pro pass.

[SlavicMan 14]

Ok,so let's do it in here as mod proposed and cos previous post was closed intentionally. We tanki players should be united and organised boycot of tanki online cos of many things devs have made and cos of not taking into matter our voice. 

[eucumine_online 0]

i don't like that they remove the create button.if i wanna play on the map wich one i like it I have to buy pro pas that means  tanki team   wanna  make more money and they DON'T CARE about players. rest of changes at OK. SHOUDENT REMOVE THE CREATE BUTTON.

[DrSaint 176]

As i said, this situation is so similar to the situation with "Crystal Drop Boxes", hope they will let everyone create battles soon (when the rebalance riot goes away)!

This is getting boring, i have grown a custom to play in Rio almost everyday, but second consecutive day i could not find a Rio battle in server 2.

So what do i do? I will find another online game, something from WoT or going to watch a movie. In other words i will find a way to have some fun even without tankionline.