Changes in the battle creation system

[misafeco 713]

Wait until you get to the highest ranks...then you start to see more xp/bp on different maps. :)

I don't care about xp/bp. I like diversity. Might change my mind if I buy railgun though.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I don't care about xp/bp. I like diversity. Might change my mind if I buy railgun though.

Xp/bp is not for all...Personally I find it the most enjoyable game mode, except for no-drug multiweapon battles on SPECIFIC maps. You should try it....at that rank join a sandbox battle and try to convince everyone to switch to xp/bp. :)  It should be PRO, drugs-off.  Quite fun. Have you tried it? :)

Edited December 13, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[misafeco 713]

Xp/bp is not for all...Personally I find it the most enjoyable game mode, except for no-drug multiweapon battles on SPECIFIC maps. You should try it....at that rank join a sandbox battle and try to convince everyone to switch to xp/bp. :)  It should be PRO, drugs-off.  Quite fun. Have you tried it? :)

I don't have railgun.  :unsure: 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I don't have railgun.  :unsure: 

Maybe save up for Legend or Touche kit? Or just buy Railgun m3 on a sale. Railgun m2 isn't worth it.

[misafeco 713]

Maybe save up for Legend or Touche kit? Or just buy Railgun m3 on a sale. Railgun m2 isn't worth it.

I probably won't buy anything else until I MU my Vulcan to M4.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I probably won't buy anything else until I MU my Vulcan to M4.

The last 5-10 aren't worth it.

[misafeco 713]

The last 5-10 aren't worth it.

Are they that expensive? Okay.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Are they that expensive? Okay.

Yes. Unless you are a buyer those last series of steps are the price of a m3 hull/turret, or an m3 module. However, you really only need 2/3 combinations at most:

 

1. xp/bp :)

 

2. Your favorite combo.

 

3. Another combo for a certain game-mode (maybe Poly CP, etc.)

 

3 isn't that necessary, as long as your favorite combo is relatively versatile. Focus on getting those to m4, it's definitely possible.

Edited December 13, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[shockwave909 0]

Just want to echo what I have seen here.  The battle button has ruined the game.  I was playing many games a day.  Now that I have virtually no choice on the maps I can play on I don't play.  I was a player that would create a battle almost every time I played.  I enjoyed the game and would suggest it to friends now I can not say that.

 

​Just my $.02 and bring back the create button!!!

[dan146_tanker 770]

Battles are ruined. Anyone know any other games? Pls tell me, Tanki isn't worth it anymore. I can't even create battles without paying 3.5k crystals. Someone pls just tell me another game, any game I need to leave, Tanki is just a pay2win now.

[r_lNOOBl3 2]

You can use the battle mode filters to select only CTF. The battle button will then send you to CTF battles only. The second issue is kinda intentional. Increase in map diversity is a good thing and players aren't forced to play the same 5-6 maps over and over again.

Thanks, I did not know you could choose certain battle types.

 

Map diversity might be a good thing (in some people's eyes), but that was already an option for all players before the battle creation change. Players weren't forced to play the same map because they could create whatever map they preferred. Personally, I like certain maps and if there were only the few that I liked to play, I would gladly come here to play them and I think others would feel the same about their favorite maps, but there was still the option to try different/new maps if you wanted to. Limiting the popular maps and forcing players to play maps that they do not want to play benefits who? Certainly not the players.

 

My $.02

[r_lNOOBl3 2]

1. If you want to play CTF, select the CTF filters. There are a lot of CTF battles.

 

2. The point is to increase map diversity. Everyone's sick of playing on Noise and Rio and you are contributing to the problem. Why can't you play on other maps instead of complaining you can't play on the same-old game dampers? It completely serves you right that you had to wait an hour, instead of trying out a new map. There's over 70 and you want to stick to 3 or 4? If you want to be that way, be that way. :)

 

It's a GOOD thing that the most popular maps aren't as common and less common maps are more common now.  It's a GOOD thing.  :rolleyes:

 

I disagree, there is a problem on the second point because the people that don't want to play on Noise and Rio (or common maps)...don't have to play on them. They could choose whatever battle they wanted and that was the great thing before battle creation came into effect. It's all about choice. If you went to Baskin-Robbins and love chocolate ice cream, you could have that, but that doesn't mean the person behind you must have chocolate if they don't want to. There is a reason there's 69 pages on this subject alone. There is no right or wrong answer here.

[r_carlo1234 118]

Most often, people don't like the maps because 

 

1. They don't like terrain they aren't used to-best flag routes, sniping spots, etc.

 

2. They simply haven't experienced a full battle in that map. Have you played a full Novel battle?

 

Also, you mentioned you had two warrant officer accounts. Since you do not have that much hours you might still find them the most enjoyable. By Legend/Generalissimo you might feel differently.  :)

You are probably right, but let me decide whether to experience other maps or not. I don't me you, I mean Tanki. :)

[its_killing_time 1]

See everyone has their own wishes

When this thing didnt came, Players were playing on other maps too they all were not in rio not in noise but also on other maps

Everybody has their own wish see i like polygon rio and noise, but other players dont like it thats why they r on other maps

:) :)  Regard

                   its_killing_time

[J.G.S.D.F 73]

Battles are ruined. Anyone know any other games? Pls tell me, Tanki isn't worth it anymore. I can't even create battles without paying 3.5k crystals. Someone pls just tell me another game, any game I need to leave, Tanki is just a pay2win now.

World of Tank. Tanki's trolls will tell you it is the same or even worse, in fact it is way batter. At least difference between buyer and non-buyer is not that big.

 

Beside computer gaming, you may consider to do something else. Watching movies, photographing, going dinner with your brothers and sisters or friends...... Computer gaming is not the only thing in your live, right? X'mas is just around the corner, don't just sit in front of the monitor. Get something meaningful to do. Wish you have a nice holiday.

[Annihalator1685 1]

Hello,

I have been active in this game for quite some time now which has provided certain characteristics such as the ability to create new battles, determining the range of ranks permitted to participate and also the number of participants in a game.

I have already paid $$$ to upgrade my tank, as it is quite impossible to get anywhere if you're only playing as a non - paying user, which is quite acceptable as many efforts and expertise are invested in creating and maintaining a game such as this one. To describe this game as a "free cost game" is only a strategy to draw people into the game and once they're hooked they'll pay to get upgrades. This is also OK because the game can only exist because of the paying participants.

What I criticize however is that you have changed the fundamental characteristics of the game, essentially creating a downgrade which is unacceptable. In order to retain the functionality of being able to create specific battles, with a set number of participants with a particular range of rank I now have to pay extra money. This is not an upgrade of the system, it's a downgrade and a considerable one. I don't like to be thrown into just any battle.

It may be OK to introduce this to non - paying free users, and it may well be easier for a new player to start off this way but to impose this downgrade on customers who have already paid an X amount of money to play the game in a certain given environment is unacceptable. If you wish to create an easy to use platform for new players that's fine, but having a rank of General I'm not really concerned about new players' problems of understanding how the game works. 

It is quite OK to create new guidelines and conditions for new customers and they can choose whether to accept them or not but it is unethical to impose downgrades on existing paying customers. Admittedly I am anticipating my next higher rank which will enable me to upgrade my tank, and I will have to pay actual $$$ to do so effectively but now I'm not so sure I'll even do that. Who knows what the next downgrade will bring?

Perhaps you might consider limiting the "create battle" function to be active from a certain level upwards, which would keep things simple for newcomers but not restrict more experienced players???

My message to you is: When you make a change in the game create an UPGRADE, not a downgrade, surely not for existing customers!!!

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I disagree, there is a problem on the second point because the people that don't want to play on Noise and Rio (or common maps)...don't have to play on them. They could choose whatever battle they wanted and that was the great thing before battle creation came into effect. It's all about choice. If you went to Baskin-Robbins and love chocolate ice cream, you could have that, but that doesn't mean the person behind you must have chocolate if they don't want to. There is a reason there's 69 pages on this subject alone. There is no right or wrong answer here.

You are probably right, but let me decide whether to experience other maps or not. I don't me you, I mean Tanki. :)

It's not like the battle button doesn't create battles on Rio or Noise or Polygon anymore. I still see lots of them. :) There just isn't 8 of them hogging the servers.

 

Before, usually when you created a battle, unless you had like 100 friends online to invite, nobody joined because nobody else joined. It was a psychological aspect as well. Now we have the battle button.

 

In addition, you still have the choice on what map to play on. At least that hasn't been taken away yet.  :ph34r:

[Dab1810 5]

 

 

Battles are ruined. Anyone know any other games? Pls tell me, Tanki isn't worth it anymore. I can't even create battles without paying 3.5k crystals. Someone pls just tell me another game, any game I need to leave, Tanki is just a pay2win now.

one game i like to play is World of Tanks Blitz. it gives u a tutorial so u can get acquainted with how the game works, how to play the game, and how u are going to buy stuff. its worth it, even though as soon as u get destroyed u cant respawn.

 

 

 

It's not like the battle button doesn't create battles on Rio or Noise or Polygon anymore. I still see lots of them. :) There just isn't 8 of them hogging the servers.

 

Before, usually when you created a battle, unless you had like 100 friends online to invite, nobody joined because nobody else joined. It was a psychological aspect as well. Now we have the battle button.

 

In addition, you still have the choice on what map to play on. At least that hasn't been taken away yet. :ph34r:

actually, i dont have much of a choice if i dont have a PP. its true that the battle button still creates those battles, but their'e all usually full. so if i wanted to play on rio and i didn't have a pro pass, if the 2 or 3 battles were full, i would basically have to waste my crystals just to play one battle. and then, even if i get the pro pass, if i want to play a non-pro battle, i have to scroll all the way to the bottom. y cant there just be a search spot so u can put in the map u want. if that were there, as long as it took me to a battle that wasn't full, i would still be able to have fun here (game not forum)

 

 

 

one game i like to play is world of tanks blitz. it gives u a tutorial so u can get acquainted with how the game works, how to play the game, and how u are going to buy stuff. its worth it, even though as soon as u get destroyed u cant respawn.

i almost forgot, it uses real tanks from WW2. if u are looking for a tank game, i suggest playing that. u'll be the driver/gunner in REAL TANKS FROM THE WORLD

 

 

 

1. If you want to play CTF, select the CTF filters. There are a lot of CTF battles.

 

2. The point is to increase map diversity. Everyone's sick of playing on Noise and Rio and you are contributing to the problem. Why can't you play on other maps instead of complaining you can't play on the same-old game dampers? It completely serves you right that you had to wait an hour, instead of trying out a new map. There's over 70 and you want to stick to 3 or 4? If you want to be that way, be that way. :)

 

It's a GOOD thing that the most popular maps aren't as common and less common maps are more common now. It's a GOOD thing. :rolleyes:

excuse me if i misread this, but i think everyone wants to:

• play on more maps than just those maps. if they didnt they would probably be protesting a bit more. u'd probably have about 120 pages already
• play on those maps to do something to know after trying several new things.
• not everyone just wants 3-4 maps to play on, lots of people try new things every day. i personally think that the create battle button should be put back in the game, however, only pro pass holders should be able to make the old battles that have recently come back out, and from a certain rank

thanks for reading this. i would like feedback on what u think on this

 

 

 

 

actually, i dont have much of a choice if i dont have a PP. its true that the battle button still creates those battles, but their'e all usually full. so if i wanted to play on rio and i didn't have a pro pass, if the 2 or 3 battles were full, i would basically have to waste my crystals just to play one battle. and then, even if i get the pro pass, if i want to play a non-pro battle, i have to scroll all the way to the bottom. y cant there just be a search spot so u can put in the map u want. if that were there, as long as it took me to a battle that wasn't full, i would still be able to have fun here (game not forum)

i think in addition to being able to to search we should also be able to have pro or non-pro filter. if the filter were on than there would be both on, but u would have to scroll down to the bottom like u do now. on the other hand, if the filter were off, than it would show only battles that were non-pro. think about this before u reply. what would u do with this kind of filter

[LittleWillie 3,199]

 

 

Yes. Unless you are a buyer those last series of steps are the price of a m3 hull/turret, or an m3 module. However, you really only need 2/3 combinations at most:

 

1. xp/bp :)

 

2. Your favorite combo.

 

3. Another combo for a certain game-mode (maybe Poly CP, etc.)

 

3 isn't that necessary, as long as your favorite combo is relatively versatile. Focus on getting those to m4, it's definitely possible.

Smoky/viking for versitility. I haven't found a map/mode yet where I can't carve out a niche on the battlefield. Though I don't think I've done Island...

 

 

 

Just want to echo what I have seen here. The battle button has ruined the game. I was playing many games a day. Now that I have virtually no choice on the maps I can play on I don't play. I was a player that would create a battle almost every time I played. I enjoyed the game and would suggest it to friends now I can not say that.

 

​Just my $.02 and bring back the create button!!!

The create button didn't go away. Now all you have to do is buy the Pro Pass. So buy one already.

 

Save your excuses why you refuse to plunk down a few Cr. If you are unwilling to even try using the new system there's no sympathy for you.

 

 

 

Battles are ruined. Anyone know any other games? Pls tell me, Tanki isn't worth it anymore. I can't even create battles without paying 3.5k crystals. Someone pls just tell me another game, any game I need to leave, Tanki is just a pay2win now.

Pay to win? That's as absurd a claim as anyone has made yet. Are you that bad a player? Do you finish in last place in every Standard battle you fight?

 

Hey Dan, after you quit Tanki what are you going to buy with all the Crystals you save from not buying a Pro Pass? Maybe a new iPhone? Or you could take your better half out for a nice dinner a couple times a month. It's a really cleaver idea to not spend then on a Pass in Tanki because those Crystals are so valuablel outside the game.

 

Sorry to be so harsh. But it is really tiresome to hear people claim the Tanki company is being outrageous for expecting players to spend in-game Crystals on in-game items. The is what Crystals are for. If spoending 3,000 Cr makes the game more fun for you spend them. If not, don't spend them.

 

If you still hate the game find another hobby.

 

 

 

Thanks, I did not know you could choose certain battle types.

 

Map diversity might be a good thing (in some people's eyes), but that was already an option for all players before the battle creation change. Players weren't forced to play the same map because they could create whatever map they preferred. Personally, I like certain maps and if there were only the few that I liked to play, I would gladly come here to play them and I think others would feel the same about their favorite maps, but there was still the option to try different/new maps if you wanted to. Limiting the popular maps and forcing players to play maps that they do not want to play benefits who? Certainly not the players.

 

My $.02

Except we have thousandas os days experience under the old system. What you claim could hapen in the old system never did.

 

 

 

I disagree, there is a problem on the second point because the people that don't want to play on Noise and Rio (or common maps)...don't have to play on them. They could choose whatever battle they wanted and that was the great thing before battle creation came into effect. It's all about choice. If you went to Baskin-Robbins and love chocolate ice cream, you could have that, but that doesn't mean the person behind you must have chocolate if they don't want to. There is a reason there's 69 pages on this subject alone. There is no right or wrong answer here.

Before terh new system this would be my choice:

 

Dozens of games on Poly, Noise, Monte Carlo, Sandbox, Island ... all map/fiormats I dislike. There might be 2 or 3 games besides them for ME to selects from. I have played so many dsamn games on Rio is pathetic.

 

There is no objective measure that will show the old system to offer greater diversity thyan what we see now. None.

 

Clearly the key has been to remove the create function from the basic battle section. Whicjh is entiely intuitive when you think about it., OF COURSE the complex optins should exist in the complex section!

 

Christ.

 

 

 

actually, i dont have much of a choice if i dont have a PP. its true that the battle button still creates those battles, but their'e all usually full. so if i wanted to play on rio and i didn't have a pro pass, if the 2 or 3 battles were full, i would basically have to waste my crystals just to play one battle. and then, even if i get the pro pass, if i want to play a non-pro battle, i have to scroll all the way to the bottom. y cant there just be a search spot so u can put in the map u want. if that were there, as long as it took me to a battle that wasn't full, i would still be able to have fun here (game not forum)

Tanki has said a couple times they are not done with this new system. There is a plan (if I heard themn right) to bring in a search function for games across the servers. Give the new system a chance. We've not seen it all yet.

 

 

 

i think in addition to being able to to search we should also be able to have pro or non-pro filter. if the filter were on than there would be both on, but u would have to scroll down to the bottom like u do now. on the other hand, if the filter were off, than it would show only battles that were non-pro. think about this before u reply. what would u do with this kind of filter

I had thoughts on this exact filter just last night. Two more buttons on the bottom like the format buttons. So you could see or not see all Pro/Standard lists. Edited December 14, 2016 by CooperO
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[wolverine848 13,097]

Smoky/viking for versitility.  I haven't found a map/mode yet where I can't carve out a niche on the battlefield. Though I don't think I've done Island...

Or ping-pong.  You are pretty much always within range of firebird and freeze.  And twins is good there on a heavy hull.

[r_carlo1234 118]

I had thoughts on this exact filter just last night. Two more buttons on the bottom like the format buttons. So you could see or not see all Pro/Standard lists.

Good idea. But maybe only one button is needed since Regular battles are always on top and there is no need to scroll down to see them. The button could be named PRO and normally be OFF, but if you turn it ON it will remove the Regular battles from showing for you.

 

I suggested other buttons previously, for: day/night/winter, large/medium/small (maps), full/half (for the number of players, if they could give us that option).

 

Or just bring back the Create button, even with fewer options would be good. Or how about giving players 3 Create Passes per day to create 3 battles.

Edited December 14, 2016 by r_carlo1234

[J.G.S.D.F 73]

LittleWillie you are a nice troll, probable you can be a nice slave !

Edited December 14, 2016 by J.G.S.D.F

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Pay to win? That's as absurd a claim as anyone has made yet. Are you that bad a player? Do you finish in last place in every Standard battle you fight?

 

 

It is pay to win at the higher ranks.  If you don't drug it's like using an m0 against m3s. You aren't helping your team and you can't do anything yourself. And while before non-buyers could profit from the 1500 drug kit, now they can't profit from the 100 supplies kit and even if they do, it's a ridiculously tiny margin.

 

That is why PRO battles exist, mainly.

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

It is pay to win at the higher ranks. If you don't drug it's like using an m0 against m3s. You aren't helping your team and you can't do anything yourself. And while before non-buyers could profit from the 1500 drug kit, now they can't profit from the 100 supplies kit and even if they do, it's a ridiculously tiny margin.

 

That is why PRO battles exist, mainly.

Correct.

 

being able to "buy" multiple M3 Protection Modules and MUs on much of your equipment gives a large advantage. And at the higher ranks "buyers" don't disappear from your battles quickly (or at all depending on rank) due to the wider rank-range for created battles.

 

 

Pay to win? That's as absurd a claim as anyone has made yet. Are you that bad a player? Do you finish in last place in every Standard battle you fight?

Not as absurd as you make it out to be.

 

Non-buyers playing non-buyers no issue. Every tanker has similar chance to place toward the top and earn good crystals.

 

But in upper ranks when a buyer enters a battle the difference is obvious.
They are now buying those very expensive M3 Protection Modules and upgrading toward 50% protection. This is huge advantage in a battle.
They are buying multiple combos and can (relatively quickly) MU those combos to be more powerful.
And of course they have access to a larger cache of supplies. They can take advantage of economies of scale.

 

Non-buyers are not upgrading at close to the same pace - and the buyers are not leaving them behind in ranks.

[ILoveCsilla 0]

There are some positive effects of the change in the creation system. Now you can play on maps that were earlier almost never to be seen, and some of these are very good. Magistral CTF, for example. I played 10-15 games in the last weeks on the map, and it is great (of course as a shaft, I find great & open maps more enjoyable than crumped & little), I think its greater than Noise, Boombox, Sandbox, and Rio. (Silence is quite OK, but how can one want to play Noise?) Also I played a lot on Solikamsk map, which is one of my favorites. When 10-10 players are in each of the teams in CTF mode, but in CP too, the battle can be very dynamic, more dynamic than Kungur or Serpuhov. The blue side of the map is like a great fort, with several routes, but there is even a tunnel-like way. Skylark can be found now much often then earlier, which is a good effect, for it is an exciting map (I am saying that as a shaft, of course, but I think all weapons can be useful there). There were some Siege, Chernobyl, Kolhoz, Molotov and Osa battles (the latter with only a few spots for shafts, but it was fun to search them - for example, on a blue hill). Pass reappeared also, but it is too little for my taste. I found the disappearance of create button at first depressing, but with the appearance of these formerly unused maps I think the effects can be seen as positive. Some boring maps are now rarely created by the EN3 server (thank God).

Negative effects: Earlier I played some great battles on maps like Berlin, Dusseldorf, and first of all, Lost Temple. These large maps have almost disappeared. I do not cry for maps like Garder, Gubakha, Gravity, Zone, Station (I never see these now), but it is sad Camp and Scope are nowhere. After all, there was a change for good. I think the game was after all improved by the changes.