Changes in the battle creation system

[Willed_T 1]

I was a buyer, would be even more, kits druggs and all.

Where are all the popular rio maps? Preferably CTF? I wonder from server to server search for one.

I have 7 accounts, bye from all to tanki on line.

Tx for all the nice gaming it was a job really well done!

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I was a buyer, would be even more, kits druggs and all.

Where are all the popular rio maps? Preferably CTF? I wonder from server to server search for one.

I have 7 accounts, bye from all to tanki on line.

Tx for all the nice gaming it was a job really well done!

The Rio maps were taken away from hogging the servers and from people who only play on one map.  <_<

[wolverine848 13,097]

The Rio maps were taken away from hogging the servers and from people who only play on one map.  <_<

You don't like Rio. Argument = "invalid"  :ph34r:

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

You don't like Rio. Argument = "invalid"  :ph34r:

I wonder where you got that from. I never, ever, said I didn't like Rio. In fact it is my FAVORITE MAP!!

 

 

Just kidding, yes, I do hate Rio. ;)

 

Edited December 16, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I was a buyer, would be even more, kits druggs and all.

Where are all the popular rio maps? Preferably CTF? I wonder from server to server search for one.

I have 7 accounts, bye from all to tanki on line.

Tx for all the nice gaming it was a job really well done!

Another case of "I'll quit rather than apply 1% of my pretend money on anew game feature".

 

SSDD. I remain unimpressed.

 

EDIT: This guy has spent Cr on these paints: Rhino, Chainmail, Desert, Invader. And he's gonna quit the game over a 3,300 Cr Pro Pass. Neither smart nor believable. I call your bluff: Quit.  :mellow:

 

(Yeah I know he probably got paints in a kit. You still are paying for them even at a discount.)

Edited December 17, 2016 by LittleWillie

[Dab1810 5]

The Rio maps were taken away from hogging the servers and from people who only play on one map.  <_<

no one plays on just one map. they all play on at least 2 or more. personally, i play on all the maps whose names or looks interest me. rio is one of my favorite maps, but i like others more or the same. if they put less maps that we like into the servers, we are more likely to protest against the change, mostly because we dont have as many maps as we like, and most of the time they are full. thats why there are 71 pages of protest and answers over this one update.

[Dab1810 5]

Might be in reference to the following (I'm just spit-balling here)...

 

Devs make a change that negatively affects some tankers.

To offset this negative change tanker will be "forced" to purchase something else. example ... isida nerf. No longer can do DMs well. Now tanker needs to buy a different turret that will allow DM success.

 

Surprise... a sale announced shortly after. So this tanker now buys Hammer, and because of the sale - they don't need to spend as much on something they perhaps had not intended to buy. So in effect they "did not lose as many crystals". And so - do not complain about sales?

 

That's the best I could come up with...

thats pretty much just what i mean. also, people will be able to save up during the sale for something that they want if they know they can get it before the sale ends. this is why people like sales, but also why they dont complain about the sales.

[Dab1810 5]

Reply from : "That will be really weird. If that will keep occurring, map related mission will be removed. We created missions to be doable during normal play. If they will be no longer doable, we'll change them"

what u need to do is make a search button for the battle button so it knows what battle u want

[Dab1810 5]

You have the freedom to choose to buy a Pro Pass. You have the freedom to pout.

he may have the freedom to buy it, but he also might not have the crystals to buy it, or hes saving up for something and is so close to being able to get it, he doesn't want to get 2500 or more crystals away from it

[Dab1810 5]

Another case of "I'll quit rather than apply 1% of my pretend money on anew game feature".

 

SSDD. I remain unimpressed.

 

EDIT: This guy has spent Cr on these paints: Rhino, Chainmail, Desert, Invader. And he's gonna quit the game over a 3,300 Cr Pro Pass. Neither smart nor believable. I call your bluff: Quit.  :mellow:

 

(Yeah I know he probably got paints in a kit. You still are paying for them even at a discount.)

if people think that Tanki is trying to get them to be more careful with what they do with their crystals, they should let other more experienced tankers warn them about what will happen. they are trying to make people get a pro pass just so that people will play pro battles. i do not think this is fair. if this is wrong, correct me, but i think tanki is trying either keep us from getting what we want, or they are trying to make us do what they want us to do.

[dan146_tanker 770]

 

 

 

Dude, everyone is saying it, not just me. The really annoying thing is when people feel the need to reply to my comments saying useless junk. I don't see any reason to explain why Tanki has become pay2win. If you can't see it... then well.... then that's absurd ok!

Every single update Tanki has made was for buyers to get money. Supplies. Do I even have to go there? Buyers have 1k of each while having fully upgraded M2s, and you think its not a buying game?! The shop keeps getting upgraded!

 

 

 

[GeeVuh 1,647]

if people think that Tanki is trying to get them to be more careful with what they do with their crystals, they should let other more experienced tankers warn them about what will happen. they are trying to make people get a pro pass just so that people will play pro battles. i do not think this is fair. if this is wrong, correct me, but i think tanki is trying either keep us from getting what we want, or they are trying to make us do what they want us to do.

No, they're simply telling you that if you buy the PRO pass (PP), you'll have an enhanced gaming experience, and thus more crystals. You'll probably make more crystals/month if you buy the PP.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

no one plays on just one map. they all play on at least 2 or more. personally, i play on all the maps whose names or looks interest me. rio is one of my favorite maps, but i like others more or the same. if they put less maps that we like into the servers, we are more likely to protest against the change, mostly because we dont have as many maps as we like, and most of the time they are full. thats why there are 71 pages of protest and answers over this one update.

The reason so many games are played on so few maps has nothing to do with "liking" those maps. What players "like" is big CR and Exp gains. That is what all those maps chare. Tanks die fast so the battle pool goes up.

 

And that is the fault of the game system. The payout system gives larger exp and Cry awards to the least interesting, least skillful situations. Some players want a good game not just to power-level. Those players were not given a choice. 75% of the Standard games we power-level games. There would be maybe 3 battlse of all types on the Pro ;list.

 

Now everyone has a choice. The standard battles are now 10-20 times as varied as they were before. The power-leveling games are still there ... all you have to do is obtain a Pro Pass and problem solved!

 

It costs you a few Cr. In exchange you can power-;level which more than pays for the Pass.

 

So, either be a stupid, dumb, poor Tanki player or learn how to play the game under the new rules and be a good  player. That's how gaming works.

Edited December 17, 2016 by LittleWillie

[LittleWillie 3,199]

he may have the freedom to buy it, but he also might not have the crystals to buy it, or hes saving up for something and is so close to being able to get it, he doesn't want to get 2500 or more crystals away from it

No, he is clearly complaining about the long-term situation. Players have no freedom to chose is his claim. It's just emotional nonsiense. He's venting not making sense.

 

At every given instant, some players in Tanki have recently bought something and thus are low on CR... for the time being. That is never a reason to avoid a new software version.

 

 

Dude, everyone is saying it, not just me. The really annoying thing is when people feel the need to reply to my comments saying useless junk. I don't see any reason to explain why Tanki has become pay2win. If you can't see it... then well.... then that's absurd ok!

Every single update Tanki has made was for buyers to get money. Supplies. Do I even have to go there? Buyers have 1k of each while having fully upgraded M2s, and you think its not a buying game?! The shop keeps getting upgraded!

 

 

 

Dan, exactly what "win" are you being denied for you non-buyer status?  Really. What exactly are you prevented from doing?

 

I see no point to Tanki except logging on and for 15 or 30 minutes I am focused on winning a tactical puzzle. What to do to win this game? As long as it is a close game it is fun. Fun is the point. And then the daily missions add to the sense of objective.

 

The point is your goals are your goals. What buyers do cant really stop you from your goals. And now you can buy a Pro Pass and eliminate all buyer advatages if you want.

 

If all the players who complained about druggers and buyer actually used the new system, they could avoid all the objects of their complaints. But they do not even try it. Hmmmm.

 

Time will remedy this. I

[LittleWillie 3,199]

 I think ... I know some of the increased drugging in standard battles is from players trying to finish in 1st place.(missions) It's easier now to win a battle straight up than it is to pick through the servers looking for the ol' lopsided game about to end. And that 1st place mission seems to pop up just about every day now, for most if not all my accounts.  Now that the map missions are gone...

 

This ids just a small thought I wanted to toss out into the forum before I forgot.

Edited December 17, 2016 by LittleWillie

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

Dude, everyone is saying it, not just me. The really annoying thing is when people feel the need to reply to my comments saying useless junk. I don't see any reason to explain why Tanki has become pay2win. If you can't see it... then well.... then that's absurd ok!

Every single update Tanki has made was for buyers to get money. Supplies. Do I even have to go there? Buyers have 1k of each while having fully upgraded M2s, and you think its not a buying game?! The shop keeps getting upgraded!

This update has nothing to do with pay2win. If you want evidence of Pay2Win, look at supplies. This battle system has NOTHING to do with supplies and in fact makes PRO battles cheaper.

[jonathanandmax 2]

I think the prevalence of PRO battles and difficulty of finding fan-favourite Rio/Noise CTF is now clear.

The advantage of PRO battles before was the ability to play without druggets: either you paid for a PRO pass or you paid for supplies.

Now you have to pay to use the map you want... and people are allowing supplies on it! (And it doesn't necessarily eradicate mults).

And my accounts are specialist hull/turret combos.  What PRO battles can I play with Mammy/Vulcan?

 

If tanki has to earn a living, let it allow real cash to speed promotion through the ranks.  Personally, I think MUs are fine - they were an interesting feature when we joined tanki and you could upgrade individual characteristics, which was an interesting tactical feature. So that's where I've always invested.  And as for protection, at least you can see who's got it because it's next to their name and you know straight away that you're playing serious buyers. But you don't know if you're playing a bunch of druggers  until you're committed.

 

I want to create battles without a PRO pass.  If they have to make money by demanding I buy a PRO pass to refine what's allowed in PRO, then I guess I can swallow it.  But killing the non-PRO experience is a real shame.

[r_carlo1234 118]

What I don't like is that some of your friends have PRO Pass and other don't, and when you look at your friends list you don't know who has PRO Battle Pass and who doesn't.

 

I think they should call it PRO Account and make it recognizable like Premium Accounts are. I suggest a yellow ribbon.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I think the prevalence of PRO battles and difficulty of finding fan-favourite Rio/Noise CTF is now clear.

The advantage of PRO battles before was the ability to play without druggets: either you paid for a PRO pass or you paid for supplies.

Now you have to pay to use the map you want... and people are allowing supplies on it! (And it doesn't necessarily eradicate mults).

And my accounts are specialist hull/turret combos.  What PRO battles can I play with Mammy/Vulcan?

 

If tanki has to earn a living, let it allow real cash to speed promotion through the ranks.  Personally, I think MUs are fine - they were an interesting feature when we joined tanki and you could upgrade individual characteristics, which was an interesting tactical feature. So that's where I've always invested.  And as for protection, at least you can see who's got it because it's next to their name and you know straight away that you're playing serious buyers. But you don't know if you're playing a bunch of druggers  until you're committed.

 

I want to create battles without a PRO pass.  If they have to make money by demanding I buy a PRO pass to refine what's allowed in PRO, then I guess I can swallow it.  But killing the non-PRO experience is a real shame.

If you cannot find a scenario in the PRO section where every variable is under your control then the problem is not with the PRO section.

 

You can spend real money to speed up the ranking climb. It's called a Premium Pass. Which is not the same thing as a PRO Pass. The Premium Pass costs real money. The PRO Pass costs pretend money that is useful only in the game ... for buying things like PRO passes.

 

You keep saying the PRO Pass is there to "make money", But it does not cost money. It costs an item what does not really exist, which is a pretend thing: Crystals.

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

[misafeco 713]

I like the fact that I'm able to compete with druggers without buying. Drug-free battles doesn't affect my garage supplies, so when I play a regular one I have plenty to use. In fact the number of drug boxes grow faster than I can use them.

 

Which means you can dominate a battle easily if you have the right equipment.

 

[jonathanandmax 2]

If you cannot find a scenario in the PRO section where every variable is under your control then the problem is not with the PRO section.

 

You can spend real money to speed up the ranking climb. It's called a Premium Pass. Which is not the same thing as a PRO Pass. The Premium Pass costs real money. The PRO Pass costs pretend money that is useful only in the game ... for buying things like PRO passes.

 

You keep saying the PRO Pass is there to "make money", But it does not cost money. It costs an item what does not really exist, which is a pretend thing: Crystals.

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

A Pro Pass does not cost money. 

 

 

I have fewer crystals available for equipment than I did before this upgrade. If I wanted to have the same crystals available, I would have to spend real money to supplement them. But this argument has been well rehearsed already.

 

I don't want every variable under my control.  I want to be able to reliably find Rio/Noise CTF games where I can use my Mammy/Vulcan. As that combo isn't going to capture a lot of flags, I rate myself on my K/D ratio. And I want there to be a means to play my chosen map/equipment without using drugs.  If I have to use crystals to do it, that's up to tanki.  If it becomes too hard to play the battle I want with enough players, I won't be playing much.

 

I don't 'game' the system by setting up 1v1 battles to complete missions - my vice is selecting battles where I'm one of the highest ranked so my K/D ratio isn't trashed. That reduces my choice of games further.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Yes, they receive their info from the devs, but seem to be in no hurry to update the site. IDK

Actually, wiki editors do their best to update the wiki as soon as the changes go live. They don't have a system for saving "Draft" versions of pages to publish later, so they can only update a page AFTER the change goes live. You also have to bear in mind that: 1. updating a wiki page is a major pain in the butt and 2. Wiki editors are volunteers and they have their regular jobs/studies/duties to take care of, which sometimes take precedence over updating the wiki.

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

I don't 'game' the system by setting up 1v1 battles to complete missions - my vice is selecting battles where I'm one of the highest ranked so my K/D ratio isn't trashed. That reduces my choice of games further.

I'm curious. As there is no in-game reward for anything based on K/D, why is this important to you?

[chang_tank 0]

Next update will be pay  $10/day to login :)

Yeah, you will see this tomorrow

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

The next update will most likely be the paid clan system (while the free clan system via the forum will prevail too)