completed Please remove paints from kits

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I purchased four kits by now (firefly, mosquito, medic and touche) and since the paint-protection-seperation update my ingame time with the included paints is zero hours.

 

To include paints in kits makes no sense (except to increase the kits prices...)

 

Please remove the paints from the kits.

 

 

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Sure some discounts will adapt. Paladin has -70%.. if you remove the paint and keep -70% the kit costs less then 200k, which is way too cheap. But if the discount is adapted, it can be balanced and makes sense.

 

 

 

[Maf 32,300]

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This is a very popular idea. Something is telling me that developers plan to keep the paints in kits to get players to spend more, but it's possible that this will be changed.

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

I would support this, since the addition of paints bloats the kit prices and I wouldn't want to clutter my garage with ugly paints from kits.

 

However, there is one benefit to the inclusion of paints. The kit prices are currently similar to how they were before the disintegration update, because the developers ramped up the discount on certain kits like Prometheus or Paladin to prevent the prices from skyrocketing. Because of this, it is actually cheaper to buy Paladin than it is to buy Inferno itself. This means that someone looking to buy Inferno can now get it as part of a kit for a lower prices while enjoying the complementary M3 Smoky/Viking/module. If the paints are removed from the kits and the developers don't touch the overall discount, it would be more convenient for someone just interested in the equipment (probably most people), but someone wanting an expensive paint would have fewer options.

[arnav0506 2,777]

I agree with this.. Why need stuff like taiga (Boreas kit) when u can buy freeze wasp at 30% at almost same price?

[austin112233 117]

I would support this, since the addition of paints bloats the kit prices and I wouldn't want to clutter my garage with ugly paints from kits.

 

However, there is one benefit to the inclusion of paints. The kit prices are currently similar to how they were before the disintegration update, because the developers ramped up the discount on certain kits like Prometheus or Paladin to prevent the prices from skyrocketing. Because of this, it is actually cheaper to buy Paladin than it is to buy Inferno itself. This means that someone looking to buy Inferno can now get it as part of a kit for a lower prices while enjoying the complementary M3 Smoky/Viking/module. If the paints are removed from the kits and the developers don't touch the overall discount, it would be more convenient for someone just interested in the equipment (probably most people), but someone wanting an expensive paint would have fewer options.

Not true. Stinger used to be only 75k, now it is 120k. Predator kit used to be 35k, now is 75k. Tornado use to be 144k, now is 160k. 

[F1ASC0 1,705]

I agree.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

A kit like Paladin is given away at -70%.

If I remove the paint and keep the -70%, then it costs less then 200k, which is ridicolous cheap for such a kit.

 

But it could work like in the example on the right: remove the paint, adapt the discount, give it litte cheaper then with paint and have no useless paints in your garage:

 

 

 

 

actually.. they could even offer both. For some PaintCollections the current kits are fine, and it's "just +30k".

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Sorry BlackWasp I am opposed to this idea :P

 

A kit offers a significant advantage, and it should not be easily available to non-buyers IMO. Also, taking out the paint would get rid of the "kit" feeling, where you are getting the whole package deal.  Paint, modules, everything.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I'm completely with you regarding the point of "getting it not to cheap".

Therefore I made up the example of the Paladin kit, that is still expensive :p

300k for a kit aint cheap.. 300k is a lot of crystals ;)

 

For me the kit feeling is also here without a paint, as I use a paint that I like, instead of the one that comes with some kit :)

But sure I respect your opinion :)

[Truthteller 4,204]

They promised us kits without paints and modules I have yet to see those!

[DeathByBoss 104]

Sorry BlackWasp I am opposed to this idea :P

 

A kit offers a significant advantage, and it should not be easily available to non-buyers IMO. Also, taking out the paint would get rid of the "kit" feeling, where you are getting the whole package deal.  Paint, modules, everything.

You are right, except about the "kit" feeling. The reason kits were created were to provide everything a player could possibly need for a battle. Paints are not needed for a battle, but they do make the kit complete.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

You are right, except about the "kit" feeling. The reason kits were created were to provide everything a player could possibly need for a battle. Paints are not needed for a battle, but they do make the kit complete.

Yes, but kits should be special, and they aren't if everyone is running around with them. For example, at Lt. General most people have m3s. Those that have to buy them at Marshal are the odd ones out, which isn't right.  It should be the norm to have M3s only at Marshal and above so kits become more valuable, and non-buyers have less disadvantage.

 

Of course, this idea would also give non-buying kit buyers more of an advantage, but then why wouldn't they buy the turrets and hulls on big sales?  They would never buy the paint if it weren't for the kit.

[DeathByBoss 104]

Yes, but kits should be special, and they aren't if everyone is running around with them. For example, at Lt. General most people have m3s. Those that have to buy them at Marshal are the odd ones out, which isn't right.  It should be the norm to have M3s only at Marshal and above so kits become more valuable, and non-buyers have less disadvantage.

 

Of course, this idea would also give non-buying kit buyers more of an advantage, but then why wouldn't they buy the turrets and hulls on big sales?  They would never buy the paint if it weren't for the kit.

Good point. But sometimes, they buy the kit with the paint grudgingly, and find that they  :wub:  the new paint that they got. That's what happened to me. I bought piranha kit back when i was a shafter, excited to try out m1 shaft/hornet, and when I started playing with Corrosion, I fell in love with the paint. Believe it or not, as of now, my favorite part of piranha kit is the corrosion paint(followed by m1 hornet, then corrosion LGC module, then m1 shaft)

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Here is one idea:

 

DROP the prices on the now useless paints! Seriously, some of the paint prices INCREASED like

 

"Oh! I'm just gonna take everything that makes this paint worthwhile away, then raise the price!"

 

The devs must be taking stupid pills these days ._.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Here is one idea:

 

DROP the prices on the now useless paints! Seriously, some of the paint prices INCREASED like

 

"Oh! I'm just gonna take everything that makes this paint worthwhile away, then raise the price!"

 

The devs must be taking stupid pills these days ._.

It's interesting to note that camo paints are extremely cheap, and arithmetically increase in price by 1000 crystals, ending at Clay which cost 10k.

 

I would make the paints cost 250k at most like modules, m3 turrets and hulls, etc.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

camoflage paints give an advantage. they are cheap, thats a good idea (balance buyer non buyer).

On the other hand the most cool looking paints (or at least what most think so) are expensive.

 

It does not matter you someone thinks that they shall be cheap as they have no function.

As long as they are bought in usefull numbers, the price is good.

 

There are also people driving a Ferrari in the town, where it is completey useless technically (no need for speed, consumes too much gas, risk of damage, ....). But people do it > for style, image, feeeling to own it, greed of others - or simply as the love the looks. Samge goes for paints.

[WhosYourBuddy 56]

Get rid of the paints from the kits, GET RID OF THE PAINTS!

[Maf 32,300]

...someone wanting an expensive paint would have fewer options.

Those looking for expensive paints might as well buy them for the full price, if they are willing to waste a significant sum of crystals on overpriced items...

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

No need. Just learn to deal with it, it's called life.

[Pink_Legacy 269]

Those looking for expensive paints might as well buy them for the full price, if they are willing to waste a significant sum of crystals on overpriced items...

However, I still think it's a fair point. Some people might want an expensive paint but not be able to afford one. Kits are not the perfect solution, but it's something.

 

Also, I haven't done extensive research on the topic, but my understanding is that kits cost about the same as turret + hull, so the discount is there basically so that you get the module and paint for free. I'm happy to be corrected, though.

[Bydo 20,121]

Sorry BlackWasp I am opposed to this idea :P

 

A kit offers a significant advantage, and it should not be easily available to non-buyers IMO. Also, taking out the paint would get rid of the "kit" feeling, where you are getting the whole package deal.  Paint, modules, everything.

in the past kits were a package deal but with the new system with paints having no protection why have them added into packages now.. if they gave us something to   substitute   for the loss of the protection on paints then ok i can say to keep them but cause there is nothing why have them.. it makes no sense to keep them..

[DageLV 940]

People i hope you understand that... 75% Sale on ant kit is cuz of paint. Paint is gone but kit will stay in same price. The sale % will decrease to maybe 25% off or so.

Right now you are asking "Dont give paint for free to us! Make items itself cost way more expensive than they currently cost in kits."

[WhosYourBuddy 56]

Paints can still be purchased during paint sales. Just remove paints from the kits.

[Pinky 29]

No need. Just learn to deal with it, it's called life.

I'm sorry but what life has to do with this? It's a game, people can discuss their ideas. I can see future for this idea because this player is actually trying to suggest something to the players and he is expressing his views what could be better for the players, who knows maybe his idea might bring more players? 

 

If you don't know what life is...then go experience is my friend, life is full of difficulties, I don't see any difficulties around here.

[r_carlo1234 118]

I support the idea of removing paints from kits for the following reasons:

 

I think paints in kits devalue paints. When you see someone wearing a Carbon paint you think he/she got it with the Firefly Kit, you don't say that looks cool, I want it too.

 

And I think paints should be expensive with crystals to buy and many paints moved to the Shop for income for Tanki in exchange of a more balanced game

 

In other words I want buyers to show off their cool tastes for paints not how fast can they hit the 1 to 5 keys. (no offense; not all buyers)

 

Probably a wishful thinking.