completed Please remove paints from kits

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Why do ppl think that if they want specific equipment then they have to buy the kits?

 

 

I've seen that a lot and I just don't understand

[deathfromabove_tanki 92]

I was actually coming here to suggest this, and before I posted, I wanted to make sure I was posting an original topic. I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks paints in kits is a horrible idea. I am not a crystal buyer, so I want to save every crystal possible. I am certainly glad some people do buy crystals, because that is what makes this game exist. If the buyers want to spend their hard earned cabbage on expensive paints that make them look rad, that is OK by me. ultimately more money for the DEVs is a good thing. I think paints should be left ingame, and I think some should be expensive, but they should definitely be removed from kits, so that kits are more available to non buyers.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I would support this, since the addition of paints bloats the kit prices and I wouldn't want to clutter my garage with ugly paints from kits.

 

However, there is one benefit to the inclusion of paints. The kit prices are currently similar to how they were before the disintegration update, because the developers ramped up the discount on certain kits like Prometheus or Paladin to prevent the prices from skyrocketing. Because of this, it is actually cheaper to buy Paladin than it is to buy Inferno itself. This means that someone looking to buy Inferno can now get it as part of a kit for a lower prices while enjoying the complementary M3 Smoky/Viking/module. If the paints are removed from the kits and the developers don't touch the overall discount, it would be more convenient for someone just interested in the equipment (probably most people), but someone wanting an expensive paint would have fewer options.

But someone wanting an expensive paint "on-the-cheap" is the exception, not the rule.  And this is only because prices of paints were ramped up.

 

Why include the paint for the small % of gamers that want this "deal"? Majority of tankers buy the kit for everything else - the paint is a throw in. Including that delays the ability to acquire the kit (even longer than previous kits).

[deathfromabove_tanki 92]

useless paints are a negative IMO. the last thing I want, is to look flashy on the battlefield. I suggest the Devs make a paint kit, which includes either several set paints at a discount, or even a "make your own kit" containing several different paints at a discounted price for those who wish to buy paints. also, paints can easily be bought during big sales for similar discounts to what is in the kit.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Sorry BlackWasp I am opposed to this idea :P

 

A kit offers a significant advantage, and it should not be easily available to non-buyers IMO. Also, taking out the paint would get rid of the "kit" feeling, where you are getting the whole package deal.  Paint, modules, everything.

Kits were never "easily available" to non-buyers.

 

They were still quite expensive, and due to the rotation, almost impossible to buy during a sale. You have to be lucky to get that extra discount.

 

Non-buyers looking at a kit pay a "hidden" price. Due to the relative high cost of a kit the tanker sacrifices incremental improvements while saving for a kit. They don't buy as many MUs, supplies, or even new equipment - they need every crystal saved until they can afford the Kit at earliest unlock. During this time they possibly could be less competitive in many battles = losing crystals.

 

As for the "kit feeling"... that may be left-over nostalgia from before paint/protection separation.

And to compare the total package to say... buying a car. You get a paint with a car too - but - at least you get to pick your colour.

 

Speaking for myself I'd rather save those crystals for MUs as opposed to a paint I don't really need/want.

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This is a very popular idea. Something is telling me that developers plan to keep the paints in kits to get players to spend more, but it's possible that this will be changed.

Or offer them along side current kits.... Paints used to be Protection now its just decoration. And overpriced at that.

[deathfromabove_tanki 92]

Why do ppl think that if they want specific equipment then they have to buy the kits?

 

 

I've seen that a lot and I just don't understand

The reason I want a kit, is because of the early unlock rank.

I am hoping to get the chiropractor kit, because I can get m2 shaft 2 ranks earlier than usual. because of that, I have delayed getting m2 freeze, so I can save crystals. still don't think I'm going to make enough crystals for whatever kit is availible when I rank up again.

[wolverine848 13,097]

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This.

 

Plus the supplies package and Protection Module (more valuable at higher M-levels) are added bonuses.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

People i hope you understand that... 75% Sale on ant kit is cuz of paint. Paint is gone but kit will stay in same price. The sale % will decrease to maybe 25% off or so.

Right now you are asking "Dont give paint for free to us! Make items itself cost way more expensive than they currently cost in kits."

Sorry, you maybe missed the startpost, as your concern is already considered.

 

Already weeks ago I edited the starpost to clearify that. check the figures:

 

Sure some discounts will adapt. Paladin has -70%.. if you remove the paint and keep -70% the kit costs less then 200k, which is way too cheap. But if the discount is adapted, it can be balanced and makes sense.

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This idea's awesome.. Paints are nothing but decor now.. It made sense back then in early 2016 as it had some protection... Now it is like available in garages as a luxury.. I would LOVE to have kits without paints and extensive garage price...

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Ok fine, you can remove the paints from the kits, but the kits prices should stay the same as they were with paints.

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

How about an OPTION. When you buy a kit from the garage you'll be asked if you want the paint and you can say yes or no and it will show the prices with or without.

 

I'd say no. I love my Electra paint :wub: 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

My question still hasn't been answered properly.

 

Why do ppl think that if they want specific equipment that they have to buy the kits?

 

 

 

And please list a reason other than "early access"

[wolverine848 13,097]

Ok fine, you can remove the paints from the kits, but the kits prices should stay the same as they were with paints.

remove an item but don't decrease the price?  Why would anyone agree to that? Defeats the entire idea of the thread.

[wolverine848 13,097]

My question still hasn't been answered properly.

 

Why do ppl think that if they want specific equipment that they have to buy the kits?

 

 

 

And please list a reason other than "early access"

Just because you don't necessarily agree with the answers does not mean your question was not answered.

 

The prime reason most tankers buy a kit is for the early unlock.

 

Other reasons are that if you like most of the items (besides the useless paint) you likely save crystals by getting them all in one package.

If you need the turret + hull and also the protection module then it is a good deal crystal-wise (in most cases).

The supplies package is a bonus.

 

However, if the module is meh to you, then it is entirely possible to save more crystals by buying Turret & Hull on a 50% sale.

But 50% sales are not guaranteed.

Additionally, if you are lucky enough to have your desired kit available during a sale you save even more crystals.

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

I like this idea. Another thing is, this would give the paints that "rarity" that the devs actually want. With the kits, paints like emerald and tiger are everywhere and lose the specialness 

[Crip 4,735]

I agree with this.. Why need stuff like taiga (Boreas kit) when u can buy freeze wasp at 30% at almost same price?

Because Boreas unlocks 2 ranks before either Freeze or Wasp M3 are unlocked.

 

 

Not true. Stinger used to be only 75k, now it is 120k. Predator kit used to be 35k, now is 75k. Tornado use to be 144k, now is 160k. 

This is something I have noticed. Players at Sergeant and lower Warrant Officer ranks are struggling to acquire M1s compared to pre-separation because all the M1 kit prices were massively increased due to their paints and modules.

 

Firefly used to be only 12k crystals and now it is much higher (around 20k).

 

On the positive side, you do get a very effective module within each kit (which provide much more consistent protection than the old Legacy modules). I prefer most of today's kit prices because it means there are less players with very good M1s at low ranks.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

How about an OPTION. When you buy a kit from the garage you'll be asked if you want the paint and you can say yes or no and it will show the prices with or without.

 

I'd say no. I love my Electra paint :wub:

 

There is actually no need for an option.

 

You can have the same kit with paint and without paint

next to each other in the garage (or shop).

(of course at a different pricing)

 

I doubt that there are much issues in having a little more "bundles"... most likely the kits are defined in some kind of text file (like an ini file in windows), and ou just have to copy/paste some lines, delete paints and adapt prices.

[WhosYourBuddy 56]

I think I'd be ok if either: paints were removed from the kits OR kits were removed from the game entirely.

 

I'd be ok with either or both.

[wolverine848 13,097]

I think I'd be ok if either: paints were removed from the kits OR kits were removed from the game entirely.

 

I'd be ok with either or both.

I'm sure THIS account would like that - what kits can a Gizmo buy?

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

Because of this, it is actually cheaper to buy Paladin than it is to buy Inferno itself.

Tbh, since M3 kits can only be bought at General, I doubt many people at that rank would actually consider paying so much for a useless paint of all things ... A Gen/Legend who has a garage that they are satisfied with, may buy a paint in order to look nice but I doubt people at General rank would put themselves at a setback of -440k for a paint. What I mean is, no one at General rank will want to buy purely Inferno, they will want to pay for a kit that is as cheap as possible and only Gens/Legends would want Inferno to look nice but those kits wouldn't be available to them.

 

 

I'm not entirely sure what rank kits were unlocked at - I believe it was General but I could be wrong. Also, this post is subjective but it's my honest opinion and I feel like it is true. Feel free to disagree

 

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Tbh, since M3 kits can only be bought at General, I doubt many people at that rank would actually consider paying so much for a useless paint of all things ... A Gen/Legend who has a garage that they are satisfied with, may buy a paint in order to look nice but I doubt people at General rank would put themselves at a setback of -440k for a paint. What I mean is, no one at General rank will want to buy purely Inferno, they will want to pay for a kit that is as cheap as possible and only Gens/Legends would want Inferno to look nice but those kits wouldn't be available to them.

 

 

I'm not entirely sure what rank kits were unlocked at - I believe it was General but I could be wrong. Also, this post is subjective but it's my honest opinion and I feel like it is true. Feel free to disagree

 

 

M3 kits are unlocked at LT general which is one rank before general

[KingZayan 3]

Hello guys as you see before the update of module,paints are in good price and kits are too after the update the 1000 cost paint become 50,000 or 100,000,my idea is if you guys remove paint from kit or give more sale on kit because its hard to get kit because of paints so please remove paint or give paint its old price its could be good

[Maf 32,300]

Hello guys as you see before the update of module,paints are in good price and kits are too after the update the 1000 cost paint become 50,000 or 100,000,my idea is if you guys remove paint from kit or give more sale on kit because its hard to get kit because of paints so please remove paint or give paint its old price its could be good

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[KingZayan 3]

You are right,I post the topic too about decrease amount of paint or remove paint from kit thanks for re post :)