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Hi fellow tank-men

I am here to propose an idea about a new tanki online.

No, its not tanki x but a better version of this one.

WITHOUT pro passes

WITHOUT buying paints and kits from the shop

This new tanki could bring back the old days

The days where we could create battles

The days where it wasn't 'pay to win' but 'free to play'

If we could ultimately copy and rebuild tanki

We could make this game great again

With the help from everyone

We could develop the next best Tanki!!

So my fellow tankers

Are we gonna watch this game die?       YES

Or a we going to save it from dying!

Thanks 

#savetanki

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There are plenty of reasons for you to dislike the game in its current state and think that the developers are leading it in the wrong direction- many people think so too. That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. I just think that you should try to keep your reasons for disliking the game all arguable or valid. :)

And?

You get paid.

You are a member of them so obviously you'd support them.

Now imagine this from a mirror. You're a normal player and I think you'd be swearing so badly at them right now.

Constant bad updates. They told removing drug kits will help people (cwl) I am going die of laughter. The non-buyers who had the only chance to compete against buyers in drugging is via those drug kits. Now the buyers gonna buy a 10 tons of them while we non-buyers are actually being Ra... in drug battles because of no drugs. The only option is to run when you see a buyer in a battle. So is this a balance? get your facts right.

Use your head Idk how you became a mod. This is not just a matter of opinion. it's a matter of milking the money.

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Many on the thread have said that the "devs don't care" or bitterly say "the devs are trying to ruin the game" or "all they care about is money"

 

The latter is probably partially true.  The dev team needs to pay for their food and bills.  This is a commercial enterprise for them.  Gazprom does not accept FaceBook/YouTube likes as a form of payment.

 

With regards to ruining the game - maybe it's a strategic decision to push people towards Tanki-X.  Sadly, this won't work on me, although I wish it did.  The game looks amazing, but with sub-30 frames per second, it's unplayable on my non-upgradeable MS Surface4 Pro.  So I simply cannot take part in what looks like an visually stunning game.

 

As for the first statement - even if the devs cared, the decisions that are being made by the management gives them the option of

a ) revolt, get sacked and release the job to someone who will do as they're told

b ) implement and get paid

 

Not sure how we would get to know the truth, but the effect remains the same: unpopular changes will be pushed through. 

 

Has anyone seen a poll of "what features would you like implemented"  offered to the community?  Please post the link here and PM me if you know more than I do.

 

I wish the Alternativa strategy would be to leave TO the heck alone, to generate (trickle-down) background revenue, and focus on making Tanki-X a more attractive, playable proposition.  Fans of the game and genre ought to move to Tanki-X by their own volition, because it's better, not due to frustration with their current gaming experience.

 

If operating cost of TO is a problem, why not redirect the talent of the developers to the next big thing and leave behind a core of 3-5 people for operations support and reduce the number of servers to reduce costs?  Surely this must be better than rolling out update after update that, due to unpopularity, further reduces the playerbase while keeping the development cost level? 

Edited by Halogen.H

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...

 

With regards to ruining the game - maybe it's a strategic decision to push people towards Tanki-X. 

 

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The more I see and hear abt TOX, the more I like even the current TO.

 

The Unity version looks so cartoonish and colorful ... nothing in common with the initial dark atmosphere and the simplified, battle-like graphics ...

In these Unity maps I almost expect Winnie the Pooh or the Little Ponies to come out of the tall grass ... it is so detailed, so bright, so mild ... no call for aggression, nothing harsh and violent to remind that this is actually a war game  ...  such a childish appeal makes me sick, really ...

 

Initially I was disgusted by this cheerful TOX ... then I realized, that the best that can happen is to have this TOX finally alive, so that all noobs&kids move there to wander around, collect their golds, etc and leave the adequate players in the original TO with whatever graphics it is ...

I only want the old, slow, physics back, nowadays tanks are too fast for any serious strategy, not to mention that they behave like sports cars !

 

You see, for me (and not only) a rectangular box with a stick to represent a tank is perfectly fine !

 

It's the gameplay that matters ... one doesn't need any sophisticated shapes or twisted gamma to have an intriguing game !

 

 

 

Alas, this cannot happen, because the devs have proved quite incapable of running even the current version, let alone two practically identical ones.

 

 

These alternative guys have managed to turn a captivating and dynamic project into a plain and dull children's habitat, forcing most of their initial supporters to quit ... or migrate to the forum )))

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The more I see and hear abt TOX, the more I like even the current TO.

 

The Unity version looks so cartoonish and colorful ... 

You know playing TX is optional, right? They don't want all the TO players to go to TX, contrary to what some people believe.

 

Well the only reason I like tanki graphics better is because of the looks of the hulls. I like the futuristic simplicity and beautiful gameplay of tanki online. Tanki X looks completely different. However, it is enjoyable as well and the maps are amazing.

 

IMO:

 

TO hulls, guns, gameplay is better.

 

TX maps are better. It also looks a bit less depressing, especially when put against M1-level TO experience for comparison. 

 

You simply can't compare the games like that...they have different attitudes and gameplay. We all will have our preferences. :)

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Whenever I join a drug battle I see my drugs and just leave...

Just saving them for tourneys can't play drugs in normal games.

1500 Supply kit was the actual balancing part between buyers and non-buyers as non-buyers save up and can buy it and buyers as usual with their money.. But now buyers are buying more drugs but the non buyers who used to give at least decent competition against buyers are completely not able to because of no drugs in their garage. 1500 supplies used to cost 105k. Right now if you buy 1500 supply kit it costs you around 270k. How balanced it is right.. And nerfering all the weapons.. Isida was a good turret, firebird was a good turret but now useless.

I still wonder how immature are these developers.They got no brains. I'm still playing this game only because of clans and XP/BP even if these things get commercial. I'm out.

I hope T-X as well Tanki Online dies soon..

Peace out..

Edited by Karma

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Whenever I join a drug battle I see my drugs and just leave...

Just saving them for tourneys can't play drugs in normal games.

1500 Supply kit was the actual balancing part between buyers and non-buyers as non-buyers save up and can buy it and buyers as usual with their money.. But now buyers are buying more drugs but the non buyers who used to give at least decent competition against buyers are completely not able to because of no drugs in their garage. 1500 supplies used to cost 105k. Right now if you buy 1500 supply kit it costs you around 270k. How balanced it is right.. And nerfering all the weapons.. Isida was a good turret, firebird was a good turret but now useless.

I still wonder how immature are these developers.They got no brains. I'm still playing this game only because of clans and XP/BP even if these things get commercial. I'm out.

I hope T-X as well Tanki Online dies soon..

Peace out..

mate believe me isida and firebird , will be good again . that time will come back . how? 

they will force you to buy the alternation like the firebird alternation is so epic powerful and new isida alternation will be OP too.

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mate believe me isida and firebird , will be good again . that time will come back . how? 

they will force you to buy the alternation like the firebird alternation is so epic powerful and new isida alternation will be OP too.

Whats the point (facepalm) In tourneys you have to play without alterations... 

Even google knows how **** these guys are..

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Don't sell me something that I am planning on having fun with and then nerf it and make it into something that I didn't buy and didn't want. If I didn't want it why would I buy it. 

A few tweaks to make something currently Op a bit more balanced is ok. Devs make mistakes in designs and need to correct.

 

But nerfing a characteristic (like Isida's self-healing) by 80% is short-sighted. WAY too big a change. They should have tried from 50% to 30%. See how that goes. if another small tweak needed, then fine.

 

Not to mention the Viking - Hunter switcheroo.  Just brutal. Ultimate bait-and-switch. I bought a Viking, They gave me a Hunter.  :wacko:

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To me, the main problem is the lack of caring what the players want. I don't know anything about the Russians but in the USA if people wanted a certain toilet paper, the stores would fall all over themselves ordering it.

Actually this shops will not even flick a finger, if you request your toilet paper and say that you are not going to pay a single buck, that you expect them to deliver it for free.

 

On the other hand, if you would pay Tanki for features they would gladly programm most of the features you like (lets say 6 months sallery per feature = 3 people working 2 months = aprox. 20.000..40.000 EUR).

 

But you have to _keep_ paying them.. because it does not work that players request railgun to be OP, it is done, everyone else abonds the game because they are anoyed by rails, and the remaining railgunners realise then that rail vs rail does not feel overpowered at all.. and leave too.

So you see, it is more important for them to have a sustaining game, in order to have a sustaining income.

 

But I wanted to give you this example.. so you see that the world of FTP games is not as simple as dealing with toilet paper.

 

Still I am with you.. they do not listen very much. There are some ideas and some input that would lead to a better game, and a sustaining game. But I understand that they can not simply follow each and every request. They can not risk to get ttheir game crashed by inbalanced features.

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