Game Balance Visuals And Stats.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

@wolverine848 is probably hibernating.

In fact he had notifications for messages turned off. He just discovered the PM yesterday. :lol: But he still contributes and helps us better understand. :)

[Spit_Fyre 334]

In fact he had notifications for messages turned off. He just discovered the PM yesterday. :lol: But he still contributes and helps us better understand. :)

:P

 

Yes, yes. If any of you doubt that, you can check ANY game discussion topic and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how enthusiastic his species are.

[asifmak 467]

This thread is very special.

I understand all the hard work and the effort you guys have made to make all these charts.

Real wonderful piece of work.

Big round of applause for u guys

[Spit_Fyre 334]

This thread is very special.

I understand all the hard work and the effort you guys have made to make all these charts.

Real wonderful piece of work.

Big round of applause for u guys

Thank you, much appreciated!

 

If you think it has merit enough, would you like to support our petition requesting moderators to have this topic "pinned" to the Game Discussion section? (Just a yes/no suffices)

[asifmak 467]

Thank you, much appreciated!

 

If you think it has merit enough, would you like to support our petition requesting moderators to have this topic "pinned" to the Game Discussion section? (Just a yes/no suffices)

Obviously yes

But this thread is way too much complex and require much deeper knowledge of the game to even understand the stats.

Thats y this will get less views or comments

Does the fact mentioned above affect a topic to be pinned?

Edited December 17, 2016 by asifmak

[Spit_Fyre 334]

Obviously yes

But this thread is way too much complex and require much deeper knowledge of the game to even understand the stats.

Thats y this will get less views or comments

Does the fact mentioned above affect a topic to be pinned?

Quite honestly, I don't know. Eventually we hope to find out. Thanks for showing support!

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

...

But this thread is way too much complex and require much deeper knowledge of the game to even understand the stats.

Thats y this will get less views or comments

....

Yes, We are working on better explanations for some of the mechanics. :)

Edited December 17, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[asifmak 467]

Quite honestly, I don't know. Eventually we hope to find out. Thanks for showing support!

Np i will support

This thread has the potential and every tanker should utilize the best of this.

Is there any official way to support the petition?

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Topic Updated, 

 

1. Impact Force Rate and Alpha aim-offset added

2. Progress in Variables affecting Temperature Mechanism added.

 

 

 

 

 

BTW Asifmak- you know you're in some youtube videos people took of Opex-Rah and the rocket launcher in Solikamsk? :P

[asifmak 467]

 

 BTW Asifmak- you know you're in some youtube videos people took of Opex-Rah and the rocket launcher in Solikamsk? :P

yeah i played with him there ,tried to find the video but can't find that one

 

link plz  :ph34r:

 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

yeah i played with him there ,tried to find the video but can't find that one

 

link plz  :ph34r:

 

Well, you saw yourself in that V-log. :) But here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYU5W01J_Uo2

 

There's some other ones you can find on the right that actually have you close-up, though :)

 

Topic Updated.

 

Also, we haven't updated the charts for striker, and we will not for a while, because we are waiting for things to settle down. Chances are it will be changed often in the next month so putting it in the charts now would be a waste. ;)

Edited December 24, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[asifmak 467]

Hey did u guyz checked the dps for hammer m2 alteration

[Tani_S 736]

Hammer is a short-ranger so we don't include the reload for it into the DPS measure. Hammer M3 with 0/50 and M2 alt. equipped deals a damage of 4515 with its five shots (no drugs) and it takes ~8.2 secs to shoot it. 4515 / 8.2 = 553 DPS, this is lower than the standard Hammer M3 (which has 664), because it needs only 2 shot reloads to deliver 3 shots, whereas the alt. needs 4 reloads for 5 shots.

 

If we included the magazine reload into all calculations, then they both have the same dps of ~325. When you take 325 times 60 sec. then you have the DPM number for it.

Edited December 29, 2016 by Tani_S

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

@asifmak

 

 

Well, I think you would be talking about DPM there as opposed to DPS.

 

The DPM, of course, isn't entirely accurate for a minute, because it's measuring the overall damage/time instead of damage/exactly 60 seconds. Hammer without alteration: DPM=24,740      ([60/{4+3.8}] x {1071 x 3]}

Hammer with M2 alteration: DPM=24,686            ([60/{7.6+5.4}] x [1071 x 5}).

 

DPM is pretty much the same.   :mellow:

 

And stop using the M3 stats <_<

 

However, this is not as important as DPS, because any true hammer user will avoid fighting during the longer reload, regardless of alteration or not. ;)  But it should be relatively easy (compared to the other alterations) to graph. Thanks. :)

Edited December 29, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[asifmak 467]

well after reading all these i may conclude that there is nothing much special about the new alt for hammer

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

well after reading all these i may conclude that there is nothing much special about the new alt for hammer

Actually I would say there is. The 5 shots help a lot, especially against multiple enemies or light hulls.  I would say it is better for defense.

 

3 shots and quicker reload may be better for offense so you are not vulnerable reloading as much, especially in enemy spawn-zone. This is why the DPM stats don't tell the full story.  DPS doesn't change but the overall impact does. I will update that...

 

Of course I still consider it OP.  :P

[asifmak 467]

u guys always confuse me and i will never make up my mind towards making some decision :unsure:

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

I still wonder if I should get the M2 hammer alteration for Poly CP... In pro battles I would need 4 shots to kill heavy hulls. The normal one loads quicker but only have 3, so I would to reload in front of enemy before firing again (I attack a lot) ..

 

If I get the M2 alteration, it reloads more slowly...But its easier to finish off heavy hulls.

[asifmak 467]

I still wonder if I should get the M2 hammer alteration for Poly CP... In pro battles I would need 4 shots to kill heavy hulls. The normal one loads quicker but only have 3, so I would to reload in front of enemy before firing again (I attack a lot) ..

If I get the M2 alteration, it reloads more slowly...But its easier to finish off heavy hulls.

Y dont u rent this one too and try for urself.

This will be the first time(from our view) someone test m2 hammer alt in live battlefield and then share his/her experience.

Edited December 29, 2016 by asifmak

[NM4U 56]

I still wonder if I should get the M2 hammer alteration for Poly CP... In pro battles I would need 4 shots to kill heavy hulls. The normal one loads quicker but only have 3, so I would to reload in front of enemy before firing again (I attack a lot) ..

 

If I get the M2 alteration, it reloads more slowly...But its easier to finish off heavy hulls.

Without M3-4 Hammer u have no chance, believe me I have it. ;-)

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Without M3-4 Hammer u have no chance, believe me I have it. ;-)

What are you talking about? We are talking about M2 Hammer alternation, not about using the modification of the weapon, hhhh. Edited December 29, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Y dont u rent this one too and try for urself.

This will be the first time(from our view) someone test m2 hammer alt in live battlefield and then share his/her experience.

How about.... No, and let others do it? :) I'm sure others are better at explaining than me.

 

But even as I say that, Stinger911 rate it really good with it, pairing with slugger. I'm still finding out what kind of battles he was in because supplies make a difference.

Edited December 29, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[asifmak 467]

How about.... No, and let others do it? :) I'm sure others are better at explaining than me.

But even as I say that, Stinger911 rate it really good with it, pairing with slugger. I'm still finding out what kind of battles he was in because supplies make a difference.

Okay :)

[NM4U 56]

What are you talking about? We are talking about M2 Hammer alternation, not about using the modification of the weapon, hhhh.

Sorry Mrs. Perfect? o.O

[Spit_Fyre 334]

u guys always confuse me and i will never make up my mind towards making some decision :unsure:

Lmao!

 

That part is listed in the fine print on this topic. If you read just one chart, you only have one angle on a part of the whole. That's why you end up feeling like you missed a large chunk of the story. So if you get into analytics but you're not sure of your own apetite for such things, you either need to commit and really sink your teeth in or just look at stuff like -

 

#16. Representation of How a Turret's Special Abilities Make up for it's high/low DPS and range.

 

 

 

 

 

... and keep your head above water. ;)

 

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