Update 428 — Parameter tweaks and more

[beaku 2,656]

I didn't say the changes were not necessary but I could count on you to paint me as some kind of loony conspiracy theorist, quite disrespectful by the way, which seems to be the theme these days from tanki staff and helpers. I noticed you didn't address my point which was why this had to be done straight after two consecutive sales where people clearly took the opportunity to enhance their already buffed items. This is just another example of bad customer relations isn't it.

 

But it's true and not a conspiracy theory that informing players of impending nerfing to turrets before the sales would not have resulted in the gains they gotten. I thought tanki were learning from these types of mistakes. I can clearly see how upset some players are that they wasted hard earned cash or crystal savings. But go on, blame them if you want!

 

Please learn from this, aswell as informing people that any changes will be monitored closely and further changes could follow, please give players reminders of this, especially before sales and especially if you know changes are looming!

 

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.

I never said you're a loony conspiracy theorist. I apologise if it seemed that way. I was just saying that this update was to be more or less expected after the global update in October. And when these tweaks are logically to be expected, some nerfs should be expected too. What exactly those nerfs would be, cannot be said by even the developers without the data of game balance. So, I'm not surprised that it happened the way it did. Firebird, on of my favorite Turrets, got a significant nerf too even though I had just spent quite a lot of crystals on it. It feels bad, but it cannot be helped.

Also, sales and updates are planned by two different departments so there's a good chance that these sales were planned way before they even had a clue about this tweak. And if they had intimated us that a tweak is coming, the sale wouldn't have been of any use since no one would have bothered to spend much crystals in fear of a nerf. All things considered, I really doubt this thing could have gone any other way.

[asghar-1 15]

pls make vulcan stronger i wasted all the money on microupgrade and you made it weaker pls make it stronger

Edited December 1, 2016 by CooperO
Please avoid using inappropriate language.

[TTK_229 1,080]

yayyy! less of the OP noobfriz! the only thing is you need to make m2 friz unlock later, at least second lieutenant. it's still OP.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

yayyy! less of the OP noobfriz! the only thing is you need to make m2 friz unlock later, at least second lieutenant. it's still OP.

No it's not. At your rank m2 freeze should be the second weakest m2 you face.  The problem was that everybody played on small maps like Polygon and got a false impression of freeze's strength. Their fault for playing on those boring crystal-grind maps.

[Amagi 1,728]

This update basically neutered Vulcan as a reasonable weapon. GG devs.

[misafeco 713]

No it's not. At your rank m2 freeze should be the second weakest m2 you face.  The problem was that everybody played on small maps like Polygon and got a false impression of freeze's strength. Their fault for playing on those boring crystal-grind maps.

Very true. Just try to play Freeze on bigger, open maps. Tanks with a bigger range will crush you before you can reach them.

[delnina2 1,570]

Wow, Thank you ! ( Not really).

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

in battles:

 

 

 

..or else everyone will push "continue" per default; and then go on to check for batter battles again..

Edited December 1, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[DrSaint 176]

As i already said few time ...

When you are the SELLER<--- (tankionline™) and when you have finished the due commerce process of selling, seller<--- (tankionline™) don't have the right to tweak already sold products, which is in buyers<--- (Paying party<--- Players) hands (most of the players paid real money to buy these turrets<--- (product) with their performance-features, which existed at the moment of acquisition) !

But hey, who am I to argue with this "old-******* -mentality*" of "I-do-whatever-I-want-as-long-as-no-one-can-punish-me" !

*No hidden meanings, the colors meant exactly what it is---> revised version of rainbow colors ---> (REDORANGEYELLOWGREENBLUEINDIGOVIOLET)!

Let's hope, someone in EU or US will not take these immature people to law-enforcement agencies ! ;)

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

(and please move those notification texts (player A has lost flag) to the bottom of the screen.. longrangers have the cam up to have  agood overview and you write into their aim.. which is especially nice on smaller screens as your font size does not scale down.

so while a full HD is not even bothered by those tiny letters, a small laptop screen is flushed with it

[sm0ky 92]

 

fix this issue .. three days in a row and three times also in battles this thing keeps coming up .. i have done everything tanki on line wants me to do but it's still happening..... and also when i first join servers on anyone of my accounts i also when going into my first battles i go in and wait but it takes way too long and i get new i'm kicked from the game / and yet i have not gotten into a game just as yet...

 

this happened just before gold dropped and also in the last two minutes of a battle .. mainly on Russian 3 server.. not sure if its a glitch or its a hacker doing this ..

 

also way to go lets just forget about the other past updates and jump on board this train...

again same server but another map ... last minute of battle

 

 

 

This happens half the time when I get a good position against an opponent, about to cap, or it is less than a minute left in a high-fund battle and  one of the top 3 scorers for the (winning) team.  <_<

[sm0ky 92]

 

 

 

..or else everyone will push "continue" per default; and then go on to check for batter battles again..

Wait, that is just to navigate between your garage and battle listing. If we were in the garage (and currently not in a battle), how would we go back to the Battles page?

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Ricochete also needs a nerf, I mean a hornet with rico vs a dictator with thunder, the rico wins. I just experienced this in Polygon or at least give thunder enough damage to kill hornet in two shots...I mean really, sometimes wasp takes three shots to kill :/

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Ricochete also needs a nerf, I mean a hornet with rico vs a dictator with thunder, the rico wins. I just experienced this in Polygon or at least give thunder enough damage to kill hornet in two shots...I mean really, sometimes wasp takes three shots to kill :/

Thunder would be sooo OP if it could two-shot a light hull. What about those Thunder users that like to drug DD?  Thunder is perfectly balanced, and considering Rico is better in close combat, it's entirely probable that a hornet-rico beats a dictator-thunder in close combat.

 

Hammer can two-shot a light hull, but thunder has more range.  In fact, there is a small percentage chance that thunder will two-shot a light hull.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Wait, that is just to navigate between your garage and battle listing. If we were in the garage (and currently not in a battle), how would we go back to the Battles page?

This battle button also works while you are in a battle.

 

Today you can mult in a battle, while you scan around the lobby for more battles that would suit you better.

 

 

If you are in the garage, the garage button could renamed to [battle], and lead you back.

besides you can close the garage by clicking an [x] in the upper right corner.

[XxPAXI2xX 169]

This is OK update, I agree as a frezze user it was really too over powered with that DMG but even now, it is still good as before, no difference i`ve seen...For other weapons i am not sure because i do not use any of others, but Vulcan DMG nerf was totaly needed.

[wolverine848 13,097]

If you only want to play DM, then use a different turret than Isida. I cannot make the idea simpler. Isida ia designed for the team games. DM is a secondary role. 

 

If DM missions are harder than other missions huess what:? Capture 5 flag missions aren't easy for Mamoths.

 

Not every mission will be the exact same difficulty as other missions. Has the been one single Mammoth owner on the  Forum asking for jet special treatment? No.

And if Isida's your only turret at that M-level?

 

Heavy hulls can capture flags - lots of small maps.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Have you even played Tanki?

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What was I thinking? I see just as many shafts as firebirds in DM battle or in MtC to name just one. Snipers have no affinty for Barda at all.

 

Sorry, I;m done. You're just being a time thief now. The only person to blame a time thief for wasting your time is you. So, toodles.

 

You never answered my question. What Battle mode do FireBird Twins or Freeze have difficulty in?

 

Shafts? Barda? What?  They do fine. If shaft has mission on Barda it can select a team battle. Problem solved.

 

You're done all right. Done making sense.

[DrSaint 176]

Let me try to explain this without hurting someone's feelings here.
Not long ago, in this winter (01.12.2016) i started to read this book, in this book there was this sentence/phrase, which came to my mind when i saw something today here in this forum.

"I love this guy's unveiled display of limited intelligence ..."

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Dude, if I were you, I'd try to grow a more thick skin! ;)
 

Edited December 1, 2016 by DrSaint

[Tomas_cz 63]

Please increase self-healing for Isida.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Please increase self-healing for Isida.

But only in DMs, otherwise they will be tempted to attack in team battles. Isidas can do just fine in team battles.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

LittleWillie if you think Isidas should only be effective in Team Battles, and don't belong in DMs, as they have no role/purpose there,

 

What do you think about an update that doesn't give Isida players DM missions?  

[misafeco 713]

How many "rebalances" were made since the beginning? When will this game reach "perfect balance"?

[GeeVuh 1,647]

LittleWillie if you think Isidas should only be effective in Team Battles, and don't belong in DMs, as they have no role/purpose there,

 

What do you think about an update that doesn't give Isida players DM missions?  

How will the system tell? O_O

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

How many "rebalances" were made since the beginning? When will this game reach "perfect balance"?

That is impossible. The goal is to get the game as close to perfect balance as possible.  

 

The problem is that every time they re-balance stuff, they move it too much. Lets say the ideal and balanced damage for Vulcan is 400 (making up numbers here)

 

Tanki comes out with Vulcan and make it do 550 damage. It's too OP. The devs see this and say "we need to nerf it". But they overshoot and make it do 300 damage, making it too weak. After about a month they realize it's too weak, and buff it again, missing the "target" again. It only results in players getting frustrated at all this "switching" and "messing around".

 

Also, the decision to nerf a turret/hull is partly based on it's popularity. This is completely inaccurate for two reasons:

 

1. Most F2P players under Legend rank only have 1 or 2 turrets and 1 or 2 hulls. So if their turret is nerfed, they are forced to still use this turret. This gives Tanki a false impression that the turret is still balanced.

 

2. Some turrets/hulls, based purely on their playstyle, appeal to a larger portion of players. For example, hornet tends to be popular at the mid ranks not because Hornet M2 is strong, but because many players like being "fast" and "clever" and "strategic", as opposed to using a Titan. I would use hornet or wasp even if it was nerfed again, but this doesn't mean I think it's balanced, I just like the playstyle.

 

Because more people use a certain piece of equipment doesn't mean it's stronger than the others.

 

Firebird didn't need the nerf. It was already balanced. The thing was that everyone used firebird because it's good in small maps and small maps give you more crystals and hence they are more popular.

Edited December 1, 2016 by r_I_already_won0