[Declined] prizes for mults

[Maf 32,338]

and you have demonstrated your ignorance, just like the others. My idea never suggested at any time that forum violations were to be reported for rewards or any chat violation either. Thank you for this gift. Proves my point 100%

Is it so hard to just replace the word "chat" with "battle"? Literally the same thing applies to battle mods. It would be more beneficial for battle mods to spend more time in-game working with real-time battle violations, instead of sitting in the game violations section and spending time processing reports there.

 

Well, here's what I can tell you.

From what I know, mods and admins don't actually want you to report violations on the forum (unless it's something extreme like terrorist propaganda hacking), because it means that chat battle moderators have to spend time processing reports in the forum, when they could have spent that time on real-time moderation instead. The latter is a much more valuable use of their time, so they don't want to encourage reporting on the forum. The option is there if you want it, but you're not helping the mods by reporting, therefore you should not get any more reward other than personal satisfaction from knowing that the violator got banned. 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Is it so hard to just replace the word "chat" with "battle"? Literally the same thing applies to battle mods. It would be more beneficial for battle mods to spend more time in-game working with real-time battle violations, instead of sitting in the game violations section and spending time processing reports there.

See! You got it wrong and now you're squirming around trying to come up with a correction to help you save face. Well your new explanation doesn't cut it with me.  Was it just so hard to read my suggestion in the first place instead of just guessing what I was saying? 

 

In effect, you're advocating closing the Game Violation Section. Why don't you suggest that and see how far that goes! We all know nothing much ever gets done real time and what about all those excuses about x amount of servers with y amount of battles and only z amount of battle mods?

 

Up to now tanki have done a poor job of controlling the mult/cheat problem and it's killing the game. The players here have made their suggestions to help save their game only to be shut down time after time after time, rudely in some cases. This is why some of us dispense with any niceties and just say what we mean to say. Cedric has no right to moan because no respect begets no respect. 

[Spit_Fyre 334]

All of us make mistakes. We all have bad days when we just can't perform in a battle. Days when concentration is sparse or when unlucky spawn positions just keep targeting us. Are we to be judged for it?

 

The scoreboard is not a complete representation of who is and who isn't a mult. It's just numbers. There's a whole other story the numbers don't tell. For example, I flip enemies for which I receive no score. I block enemies with my hull so the flag carrier can escape. What do I get in return? A worse D/L, work-rate, score-rate, whatever. A complete numerical system will fall flat on it's face when dealing with a problem like this. Not to mention the ganging-up on low-scorers part - I see it as just plain bullying.

 

So what if someone can't play half as well as their team? How does that justify them being kicked out with absolutely no benefit for whatever little they have achieved? How will players like them even progress in game?

[Spit_Fyre 334]

The judge should not have a stake in the outcome - therein lies the success of the judiciary.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

All of us make mistakes. We all have bad days when we just can't perform in a battle. Days when concentration is sparse or when unlucky spawn positions just keep targeting us. Are we to be judged for it?

Totally different subject matter.

 

 

The scoreboard is not a complete representation of who is and who isn't a mult. It's just numbers.

Yes to a point.

 

 

For example, I flip enemies for which I receive no score. I block enemies with my hull so the flag carrier can escape. What do I get in return? A worse D/L, work-rate, score-rate, whatever. A complete numerical system will fall flat on it's face when dealing with a problem like this. Not to mention the ganging-up on low-scorers part - I see it as just plain bullying.

 

So what if someone can't play half as well as their team? How does that justify them being kicked out with absolutely no benefit for whatever little they have achieved? How will players like them even progress in game?

What are you talking about - players being "kicked out"?

 

No battle violator mod has ever blocked or banned anyone for trying in the history of this game. Any attempt to report a trier, even if they're using m0 equipment will result in "Not enough evidence for ban"

 

You're going totally off topic now. This is about player generated reports that result in successful bans and not reporting triers. You can't ban somebody for trying.

[Spit_Fyre 334]

What are you talking about - players being "kicked out"?

Yes.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Yes.

You're in the wrong topic.

[Spit_Fyre 334]

You're in the wrong topic.

That's okay. I was just following the conversation here and thought this was worth mentioning.

 

P.S. I forgot to add - when a player reports someone as a mult, they have effectively "judged" them. The judging then gets approved or not. That's the mod's job.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Let's stop the hypocrisy for a minute and explain everyone the how and the why:

• The report system is not easy to use on purpose: if it was easy to use, everybody would report a saboteur instantly and the 24 battle mods would be swamped with hundreds of reports. More players would blame them for not coming to our rescue and they'd surely be exasperated. Tanki doesn't want them to be pissed off and quit their position, they want them to keep spending hours and hours to achieve work for a few thousands of crystals when it should actually be paid with real money; anyway.
• Tanki doesn't wanna reward us for reporting because many players would report hastily without checking if their video meets all the conditions, therefore battle mods would waste more time watching irrelevant videos. Also, and above all, it gives mods the opportunity to come out with the infamous argument "you're not helping the mods by reporting". Well, if I didn't record, convert, upload and submit my videos, those 113 parasites would have gotten away with their sabotage and justice wouldn't have been done. Yes, I used the term justice because that's what I'm seeking when reporting someone, not personal satisfaction. Many cheaters learnt with time to pretend to play and sabotage daily battles of the same players. They deserve to be punished. Moreover, my friends and I had to record and report a notorious saboteur 8 (!!!) times before the tech support finally blocks his account forever; no need to mention no mod has ever come to our rescue after we voted him. So I reply to your infamous argument with "better report than waiting for ghost mods"

Ps: devs wouldn't mind to give away 500 crystals per day or week as suggested by AbsoluteZero, it's not a financial issue at all

113? Damn. And theres an easy solution to this problem: Hire more battle mods and make the vote command easier to use. 1/4 of the battle is hard to achieve when the enemy side wants the mult there and most of your team is brain dead.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

... and make the vote command easier to use....

Umm...what's so hard about it right now? 

 

Do you mean more effective?

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Ps: devs wouldn't mind to give away 500 crystals per day or week as suggested by AbsoluteZero, it's not a financial issue at all

It's more of a token thank you and a sorry for lost playing time. It can't be considered an income for such a small payment. You get more in daily missions!

 

I can't imagine players hastily reporting without checking being much of a problem. We're talking tiny amounts of compensation here from the account of the violator. I can earn more playing in the time it takes me to convert, upload and submit.

 

Whatever the reasons, tanki do a really poor job at policing the game and punishing violators. It's so poor that the game is almost dead. We're in tanki's peak month and we're lucky to see peaks of 30,000 in battle.  But it's their rodeo. We can only tell them what's switching us players off. It's up to them to do something about it.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Umm...what's so hard about it right now?

Do you mean more effective?

 

Many players do not know that it even exists, how it works and what the valid reasons for votes are. If too few players vote, then the complaint is not even sent out.

 

Therefore this proposal from [the idea section]

 

 

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

"prizes for mults"

Who even thinks of this.

[dan146_tanker 770]

"prizes for mults"

Who even thinks of this.

I know right.. I blame the internet...

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

"prizes for mults"

Who even thinks of this.

I know right.. I blame the internet...

I wonder if you read the discussion, not just the title. :P

[dan146_tanker 770]

I wonder if you read the discussion, not just the title. :P

Keep wondering. Look through the comments and the answer shall come to you ;)

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

For being someone whos all about respect you sure love to start flame wars for no reason. Why dont you go take your off topic hate and put it back in the supplies "discussion". Youve already ruined 3 topics.