invalid Reputation points based on activity in battles

[matthijskik 51]

(Merge/ignore this topic if it's already suggested)

 

The problem.

Today, I have played battles with some people who were just sitting there, doing nothing, not even when our flag was taken or when the gold box was dropping(not that the last one bothers me that much...). I know there are already ways that the developers are trying to fight these 'mults' by kicking them out of the battle after 2 minutes of inactivity, but that's 'bout it...

 

What is the solution?

Now, I came up with the idea to add reputation points. It works easy, when you get kicked out of a battle because of being inactive, you get -1 reputation. When you leave a battle by yourself, it doesn't affect your reputation. If you stay in a battle until the result screen pops up, you will get +1 reputation. Your reputation is being displayed on your profile/ratings page.

 

How does it improve anything?

Next, the most important feature of this idea, the thing that makes it improve the game, is that when a player creates a battle, he can toggle the 'reputation' button. When this button isn't activated, any player can join the battle(with a pro pass/premium...). When the button is activated, only players with a reputation at 0 or above can join(yeah, this means that you can have negative reputation.)

 

Why would we need this?

This system would be more punishing players who keep being inactive in battle, since they won't be able to join all battles anymore.

 

Some last words.

Last but not least, I don't know if -1, 0 and +1 are good numbers. It could also be -2, 0 and +1 so that it's not to easy to get your reputation back up again. Something that might be important as well, is a special battle icon on the far left of the battle list. Right now we have a star to resemble pro battle, and a cup to tell you that it has a format. If this idea is taken under consideration, they should add another icon to resemble that the reputation option is turned on. It would be a pro-battle-only function.

 

[Maf 32,300]

Valid

[vltr]

We had multiple similar ideas suggesting this sort of thing. It's valid but I think developers would rather go for a different system than one that punishes players for inactivity.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=340850&page=1

[Maf 32,300]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=340850&page=1

Yeah, like I said - a lot of similar ideas. Just search for "vltr" in the forum search bar and you'll see them all.

[Spit_Fyre 334]

What is the solution?

Now, I came up with the idea to add reputation points. It works easy, when you get kicked out of a battle because of being inactive, you get -1 reputation. When you leave a battle by yourself, it doesn't affect your reputation. If you stay in a battle until the result screen pops up, you will get +1 reputation. Your reputation is being displayed on your profile/ratings page.

 

I like the basis of this. As I understand, it is an inactivity tracker within battles. I think it'll be better though if we lose the focus on "negatives" and allow players to accumulate +1's ONLY. So that would mean no player can have a reputation below 0. Based on a ratio of how much someone plays vs how often they are inactive, we may arrive at a meaninful number. This can then be used in monitoring.

 

Secondly the part about how this gets used - if this becomes a pro-pass option, looks like it'll be overstepping the personal statistics boundary that devs are not comfortable with (read as player discrimination, maybe?) . Think about it, no pro-pass settings currently limit any player holding the pass. If they've bought it, they can use it. I think in a sense it's more right to say the devs are a little powerless here. They've already sold their righhts on it.

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=340850&page=1

@IAW, is that idea similar to this one? Granted it addresses the same root cause.

 

EDIT: If this topic gets merged with another ideas topic, and I am unaware of the transition, all of what I've said above stands nullified in relation to the merged content.

[Skills.n.Girls 767]

What if a player just make a battle with 1 flag or such thing and his/her reputation goes up that easily?

[Truthteller 4,204]

Nah this can be misused in probattles

[Benefactor 6,888]

Or.....

 

Use the reputation counter internally and let it add/subtract points (whichever the case may be) as it was intended to and adjust the crystal rewards through a percentage formula after the battle is over.

 

 

Example of counters:

Catching the flag +3

Movement with the flag +4

Capping the flag +6

Control Point occupation +4

Turret firing +7

Hull movement +1 every meter

Kills +10

Death while moving +2

Non-movement after respawning on a respawn spot -50 

 

 

Something like this.

[DageLV 940]

Not a mult but gotta say.. Its easy to abuse.

Make island map for 1 kill and you get reputation to mult..

[DageLV 940]

Also.. Sometimes I have to do other stuff so I do it after I die. Mostly it needs 10 or more seconds meaning if i don't do it in those 5 respawn seconds I loose 50 rep?

[jdc20181 213]

Under review

[vltr]

We had multiple similar ideas suggesting this sort of thing. It's valid but I think developers would rather go for a different system than one that punishes players for inactivity.

Punish users for inactivity, what if I need to go pee? I am serious, with the reduced amount of pause time lol,  it takes ~ 3 min (time goes quickly) to walk to the bathroom, use it, and wash my hands, then go back. By that now, I would be booted. 

 

Punishing should only be if you are a repeat offender. Lets say 20+ inactvities in a 24 hour period. Essentially punishing a player isn't going to help. 

 

Further more this idea couldn't happen. 

 

Due to lag on both ends - and what if - I need to restart the client, it takes about 45 seconds to reload. sometimes longer. So I would be losing rep just because the client wouldn't load up right. HA! 

 

I could see it now - everyone would be in the negative... 

 

Further more, the respawn lag is real now days. It takes almost 25 seconds to respawn sometimes. Because of glitchy bugs. 

 

The servers arent stable for this kind of thing, and I don't see a point of it being so. 

[Maf 32,300]

Punish users for inactivity, what if I need to go pee? I am serious, with the reduced amount of pause time lol,  it takes ~ 3 min (time goes quickly) to walk to the bathroom, use it, and wash my hands, then go back. By that now, I would be booted. 

Wow, amateur...

You should train to pee like lightning! Find a good master, dedicate yourself to training and practice, keep aiming to get better and better and after a few months of vigorous training you will be able to sprint to the bathroom, do your business and get back in as little as 30 seconds!

[Aunty_Entity 245]

Not a mult but gotta say.. Its easy to abuse.

Make island map for 1 kill and you get reputation to mult..

While I agree with that appraisal, if you only run the reputation on games with >2 flag, and >2 player per team, you should be able to get past that problem pretty easily.

[DageLV 940]

While I agree with that appraisal, if you only run the reputation on games with >2 flag, and >2 player per team, you should be able to get past that problem pretty easily.

u know a lot of people has friends... they can grind points in island map.

Also if its 2v2 then R.I.P duelists!

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

When was the last time you saw a mult get kicked by the inactivity timer? It wouldnt even be that hard to keep it above 0.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

u know a lot of people has friends... they can grind points in island map.

Also if its 2v2 then R.I.P duelists!

however the problem is not associated with these maps/game types, so it shouldn't

make any overall difference to them, or those that play them

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Punish users for inactivity, what if I need to go pee? I am serious, with the reduced amount of pause time lol, it takes ~ 3 min (time goes quickly) to walk to the bathroom, use it, and wash my hands, then go back. By that now, I would be booted.

 

Wow, amateur...

You should train to pee like lightning! Find a good master, dedicate yourself to training and practice, keep aiming to get better and better and after a few months of vigorous training you will be able to sprint to the bathroom, do your business and get back in as little as 30 seconds!

The best way to acomplish that is to join a pee-clan.

Regular trainings, bonus points for shortest pause breaks, and you can join pro battles without the pro pass.

All you've to do is to pay 36USD or 26EUR, but in oposite to sit-and-play you do some real sports and train some muscles ;)

[Maf 32,300]

The best way to acomplish that is to join a pee-clan.

Regular trainings, bonus points for shortest pause breaks, and you can join pro battles without the pro pass.

All you've to do is to pay 36USD or 26EUR, but in oposite to sit-and-play you do some real sports and train some muscles ;)

Or you could just put a desk in the bathroom and play while sitting on the toilet...   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Or you could just put a desk in the bathroom and play while sitting on the toilet...   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sister knocks door to bathroom "Are you ready yet?? I haaaaave to use the toilet, urgentlyy !!!!"

 

Brother from inside: "we are at 1475 of 2000 points Polgon CP - I can not quit now!!!"

 

:D