Do TO developers care?

[Guest]

Tanks are ugly, you have to pay for looks, non buyers are restricted to DM only (or get bad equipment) oh and everything is ugly, pros are mixed with noobs and its difficult to play???

Ugliness is just your opinion. And do you really want devs to be selling OP kits and supplies rather than cosmetic features like skins and paints?

Non buyers aren't restricted to DM's. You'll only be able to play Sandbox DM till you reach Mastery Level 2 on your equipment.

And the mastery level system and some other features actually ensure that all players in a battle are of similar experience.

[Truthteller 4,204]

Ugliness is just your opinion. And do you really want devs to be selling OP kits and supplies rather than cosmetic features like skins and paints?

Non buyers aren't restricted to DM's. You'll only be able to play Sandbox DM till you reach Mastery Level 2 on your equipment.

And the mastery level system and some other features actually ensure that all players in a battle are of similar experience.

No its not an opinion you can barely see tanks from distance or see modification,

Can we agree that no paints look sexy? Buyers are extremely OP! we are talking about whales here who have m3s at wo4 imagine someone have 100/100 at a low rank in TX? I mean other modes give a bad Exp - Crystals ratio but DM gives a more fairer ratio, and buying cool looking equipment with real money makes non buyers disheartened 

[DageLV 940]

No its not an opinion you can barely see tanks from distance or see modification,

Can we agree that no paints look sexy? Buyers are extremely OP! we are talking about whales here who have m3s at wo4 imagine someone have 100/100 at a low rank in TX? I mean other modes give a bad Exp - Crystals ratio but DM gives a more fairer ratio, and buying cool looking equipment with real money makes non buyers disheartened 

Show me which item needs real money to be obtained? Go make account and show who has 100 mu's on equipment in low ranks?

Everyone has simmilar mus.

 

You know NOTHING about that game and cry how bad it is...

[DageLV 940]

Why would I want to stop it?

 

Its amusing seeing a guy say he hates supplies after using tens of thousands of them against weaker lower/mid rank enemies, then announcing he's quitting at the point that he's starting to face more skilled heavy druggers with high-power gear.

 

Supplies battles are just another game mode, one of several in this game (No-supply, no-MU, Xp, Bp, XpBp, DR, striker, no-SCD...etc.). If you don't like supply battles anymore, buy a PRO pass. To be fair to the devs, they cared enough to give players these options.

You say to me that i cant play againt hight ranks and should play against low rankers AND now you try to insult me for playing againt low rankers? WHAAA??? Btw no. I drugged against druggers and thats the reason why i have so many of those... There is too much druggers.

 

Yes they cared enought to make people who are saving or cant afford pro pass force to buy pro pass using real money cause they cant earn it in battles against druging legends.....

[Truthteller 4,204]

Show me which item needs real money to be obtained? Go make account and show who has 100 mu's on equipment in low ranks?

Everyone has simmilar mus.

 

You know NOTHING about that game and cry how bad it is...

You are at low ranks! Play as long to play with people with 100/100 then you will know.

[DageLV 940]

You are at low ranks! Play as long to play with people with 100/100 then you will know.

You see battles only with simmilar hull/turret skill level as yours meaning its impossible but if you dont upgrade your turret/hull then its not a TX fault you dont. Its yours!

Edited January 20, 2017 by DageLV

[DageLV 940]

Ummm!...where did I say that then?...you're just making up stuff now. You quit before you would always have to face high-ranks in battles, that's the point.

Don't guys like you get it?? there's so many druggers because they like the drugs-battle game mode. Frankly, I'm thinking you drug-haters are a bunch of kill-joys that want to dump on other peoples enjoyment...lighten up.

Umm sorry.. It was LieTeller and you.. You both look nooby so thats why. Could you tell difference between noobs and noobs?

BTW, your drugging rate is on a par with Legend-ranks, for a player at your rank you are/were one HEAVY drugger...which is good, but still a tad hypocritical, given what you're saying in this topic.

This comment about PRO passes, just so wrong...Why would you even be “forced” to pay real money for a pass that cost 5K crystals? Anyone can/could make waaaay more than 5k a month return from PRO battles, 5k to play in battle formats that you prefer is a good deal. Mission supplies can then be saved for when you join drugs battles....It's not rocket science, some people have been doing it for years.

Those drugs show you how much i had to face druggers. A LOT!

About pro pass... If you dont have crystals you cant basicaly kill anyone cause everyone drugs after being hit by each vulcan bullet. (For people like you i gotta explain... A LOT OF DRUGGING!) That also means its impossible to get those 50 kills or earn a lot of XP even if you are isida.

The problem PRO battles had was that some people were unaware of them or their benefits, or simply just too stubborn and/or tight-fisted to take advantage of the pass, which led to not enough variety and quantity of PRO battles...which is why Tanki lowered the price.

And why do we need to pay for pro pass? To waste crystals? Yep... Also if players didnt wanted to waste crystals.. Tanki is going to force them by removing "Create" button? Pro battles were good as they are and standart battles werent that much filled with druggers as it is now.

Also, when the Clan system is introduced all clan members will be able to join PRO battles without a pass, but can't create battles(I think)

Ugliness is just your opinion. And do you really want devs to be selling OP kits and supplies rather than cosmetic features like skins and paints?

Non buyers aren't restricted to DM's. You'll only be able to play Sandbox DM till you reach Mastery Level 2 on your equipment.

And the mastery level system and some other features actually ensure that all players in a battle are of similar experience.

He is not smart enought to understand it...

 

 

Supplies battles are just another game mode, one of several in this game (No-supply, no-MU, Xp, Bp, XpBp, DR, striker, no-SCD...etc.). If you don't like supply battles anymore, buy a PRO pass. To be fair to the devs, they cared enough to give players these options.

If its another gamemode then why tanki is forcing this gamemode to players without drugs? (For smart people like you i gotta explain. Standart battles are drugger filled and player without pro pass HAVE TO play this gamemode if they like it or no.)

[Supernatural 2,053]

They care. About the money.

[Benefactor 6,888]

They care. About the money.

Who doesn't?  :)

[Guest]

Guys, I request you to refrain from personal attacks and provocation. Try to use generic examples to support your argument.

[DageLV 940]

LOL, the quitter noob that runs from the game as soon as he has to face the high-rankers is calling ME a noob....just lol.

Then why i didnt left when i ranked to major and started playing gissimo battles?

I ranked up to commander using only mission supplies by playing PRO no-supply battles while I saved mission supplies, then drugging when needed in drugs battles. A certain amount of people you're facing in battle have the good sense to do this cos they like to participate in drugs battles every so often with drugs to use....the ones that whine are the ones that haven't adapted, they have no drugs to use in drugs battles and they get owned....Its funny when I see a counter-drugger like you moan about OP drugs when its you that's responsible for accelerating how quickly a battle turns into an all-out drug-fest. Guys in the enemy that weren't drugging before see you drugging to counter an enemy drugger, then decide to drug like hell to counter you.I drug only when i see the person who drugs so... Nothing wrong with counter drugging or only drugging when needed, but moaning when drug wars start when you're joining in the drug war is just ridiculous.I didnt joined drugg war. i joined standart battle. If you don't like how drugs battles descend into drug wars, buy a pro pass and play no-supply. How many times do you guys have to be told this before you get it?And how many times you have to be told to play your unofficial formats in private battles? Drug wars isnt official.

Waste crystals??...You pay 5k for a month pass into battles where you don't even have to micro-upgrade anything on your tank, or can play format battles that you like.And why devs added that pass? A while back there was no pro pass and we were able to customize our battles without needle to pay for it. Because PRO battles are now more popular, there's more no-supply battles to join, so I assume lots of players are using the tactic of only jumping in on supplies battles when they have plenty of drugs, and play no-supply while they're saving mission drugs. They adapted, if others can't adapt,No they are buying supplies. TOUGH!!

 

I agree with you that the “create” button/”battle” button change is noob, I said that at the time.

Made me laugh that...a guy makes a patronizing comment about someone not being smart, then writes that....Pffft!!!

 

And like I've said several times now, if they adapted they'd have drugs to use in drugs battles. Drugs battles are just another game mode, its not compulsory to participate in them. There are other perfectly enjoyable battle types to be had in this game, ones that don't actually cost much crystals to participate in. Then go and play that unoficial format in private battles. As cedric stated all unofficial formats should be played in private battles.

 

This is a game that's offered ways of advancing without having to pay to succeed in it. If some don't work out a way to succeed in it when others are succeeding....then whose fault is that? Go and get all achievements without buying... Waste a ton of drugs, get all m0, m1, m2, m3 equipment and so on.

Edited January 23, 2017 by DageLV

[DESTRUKCO 51]

I agree with DageLV that drugs need to be nerfed.

[DageLV 940]

• ...So stop whining about drugs when you're a drugger yourself...and I don't believe you're a counter drugger. I know how I play drug battles and know how much drugs I use on average. You use only a little less drugs per hour than I do...I know I ain't a counter-drugger and I drug to take out targets/flags/points, I suspect you did the same by looking at your drugging rate. Again, I have to take your word for it.
• Im no longer drugger cuz i dont play. Also did i mentioned previously this topic is not about drugs but if developers care about what we say?
• Standard battles are drugs-enabled battles, therefore players shouldn't be surprised to see a battle turn into a battle of a few druggers using their supplies. When most of both teams then go nuts with their drugs in order to win the fund, it turns into a drug war...
• Nope. In good battles with good player fund gets huge cause noone drugs and everyone dies meaning fund grows. If it does it gives more crystals. If 1 team drug and second team dont have them and they came in just to get those 5k for pro pass then battle fund is extremely low. Why? Cuz of noob like you!
• Official??? What?Drug wars is what a battle turns into rather than a battle mode. You seem to be thinking that no-cooldown battles are the drug wars, maybe some will think you're right here...personally, I disagree with this cos I've been in no-cooldown battles that haven't had as many druggers in them as I expected. A drug war IMO usually kicks off at a certain point of a drugs-enabled battle and is sometimes sparked by a drugger and counter-druggers(ironic). It ends up with most (or all)of each team drugging like mad. This can happen in any drugs enabled battle...its a risk you take when you join drugs battles.
• You were the one calling it gamemode. Werent you? And as far as i know there are only DM, TDM, CP and CTF gamemodes and none of them is called "Pay to win" or.... "Drug noob" or whatever like that. so it means that you meant format not gamemode...
• The cost of the PRO pass is a good thing...it restricts the account sharing and multi-account mults from entering PRO battles, cos they can't afford the pass. The problem when Tanki gives free PRO passes to clan-members will be that these mults will be able to get into a clan, get a free pass, then mult PRO battles.= more mults in PRO battles = #@%&!!
• And what about people who just saved up for their turret and hull and now has only few crystals and cannot afford drugs or pro pass? 
• So are you, If the free-players used some of their hard-earned rewards to buy 100 kits so they could fight more often in a format they like, what's the problem? If the buyers used some of their cash to buy 1500 kits so they could fight in a format they prefer and drug as much as they want, what's the problem?
• Tanki recomends to do not buy the drugs if player wont pay for the game. P2W situation AGAIN!
• Again, what unofficial formats??...the only unofficial format I can think of is firebird/wasp....no idea what you're on about sorry.
• See above
• Well duh!! You really think it should be easy to do that without buying? getting achievements is not even straightforward for a buyer, surely it takes time....the clever non-buyers will get themselves into a position where they're buying some competitive equipment that they like, the ones that aren't so clever won't
• As tanki has stated... Everything is obtainable by everyone and that being said it means EVERYTHING MUST BE OBTAINABLE BY FREE PLAYERS TOO!

Lets do the test. You use your equipment without drugs and i use my equimpent on full drugs. I have only 1400+ each.

Edited January 23, 2017 by DageLV

[Benefactor 6,888]

 

By the way do you know what means I of nicknames like I.Pro?

I..would LOVE to know!

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Obviously if the game is nearly eight years old -_-

 

Just because they make an update you don't like, it doesn't mean they don't care  :rolleyes:

[DageLV 940]

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What's Tanki's recommendation got to do with anything? I've already told you a way to do well in this game as a free2player using PRO passes and drugging in supplies battles. Plenty of people have, are and will continue doing well in this game as free2play.

Then go, make new account and get all of them. That means you have to... Be extemely lucky and always get crystal missions which doesnt need exp earned so u dont rank too far and loose ability to purchase lower modification gear. Get all those ach's. Prove your point that it is possible to do as F2P players...

Everything is obtainable, eventually...Buying speeds up the process. You're a buyer, you should know that, isn't that why you bought in the first place?

????...and that would prove what exactly?...that drugs significantly boost your tank?. ...surely not? :o  ;)

Obtain all ach's without buying and then say this one again.

[x_Vulcan0_x 2]

NO, they don't...

if they did,

Shaft,a turret created for sniping wouldn't be made to play like smoky

[DageLV 940]

No point talking with this guy, just doesn't listen....I already told you how its possible to advance as free2play in this game and then you keep mentioning a bunch of achievements that are irrelevant to this topic. Why would a free2play guy even whine that he can't get these achievements anyway?

 

You're free to continue your flounce and make petty remarks about other players that aren't even involved in the topic, cos its a waste of my time talking to you.

 

You gota prove that it is possible to get all ach's without buying anything. Go ahead! i wanna see the results! Achievements are game feature. If its not obtainable by free players then devs lie... *cough* Paints *Cough*

Edited January 25, 2017 by DageLV

[wolverine848 13,097]

NO, they don't...

if they did,

Shaft,a turret created for sniping wouldn't be made to play like smoky

Speaking of smoky... they are nerfing it - AGAIN.  Increased re-load and decreasing critical.

[DageLV 940]

Last time I checked, achievements didn't make your team win

And when i was talking about which team wins or whatever? I was saying that about tanki not telling the truth.

[DageLV 940]

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Irrevelant? Then please say me what is not irrevelant? Supplies are irrevelant... Ach's irrevelant. The only thing what is revelant is IF THEY CARE!

[DageLV 940]

Which is?

That EVERYTHING is obtainable by free users. Its not.

[jeyanth_online 0]

play using rail+hornet because XT mode is very famous

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

 I drugged against druggers and thats the reason why i have so many of those... There is too much druggers.

This is ridiculous. You've used more than 8k of each supply. Even some Legends who have 1000+ hours on a single hull haven't used as many supplies as you have. If anything, you're the drugger. Secondly, you're a buyer (judging by your Mint paint) and despite your insane supply usage, you don't have a single M3 hull. It feels like you are filling in the weakness of your equipment with supplies. To someone like you, I think an investment of 5k crystals in a PRO pass would be a good idea. Doesn't put a strain on your "budget" and gives you battle without druggers.

 

You gota prove that it is possible to get all ach's without buying anything. Go ahead! i wanna see the results! Achievements are game feature. If its not obtainable by free players then devs lie... *cough* Paints *Cough*

True. I have trouble believing anyone could catch 5000 golds without buying.

 

Irrevelant? Then please say me what is not irrevelant? Supplies are irrevelant... Ach's irrevelant. The only thing what is revelant is IF THEY CARE!

What is not irrelevant is your performance in battle and how fun the game is. Achievements do nothing except give you bragging rights.

 

That EVERYTHING is obtainable by free users. Its not.

The only things not obtainable are paints in the Shop, which are purely cosmetic anyway and give no gameplay advantage. Everything else is obtainable. Besides XT missions, you can save up 500k, complete a premium mission, and buy an XT without purchasing crystals. Is it hard? Definitely. Is it possible? Definitely.

As a side note it's strange that you're posting this given you're a buyer.

Edited January 26, 2017 by ThirdOnion

[DageLV 940]

 

play using rail+hornet because XT mode is very famous

Thats called HR not XT. Also that HR format is not fun.

This is ridiculous. You've used more than 8k of each supply. Even some Legends who have 1000+ hours on a single hull haven't used as many supplies as you have. If anything, you're the drugger. Secondly, you're a buyer (judging by your Mint paint) and despite your insane supply usage, you don't have a single M3 hull. It feels like you are filling in the weakness of your equipment with supplies. To someone like you, I think an investment of 5k crystals in a PRO pass would be a good idea. Doesn't put a strain on your "budget" and gives you battle without druggers.

Yes! Now you see how mny druggers i have to face! I still have 1400+ from each drug in my account ready to be used... Those legends play HR only or FW only. Yes im the drugger when i see someone drugging. That means i see a lot of druggers and i drug against them. Also... Yes! i am buyer! Last time i checked ive used 400+ euros in this game. About me not having a m3 hull... Reason is... Im not gonna buy anymore and if tramix wants m3 hull he has to earn it (TramixTV from youtube is playing my acc from now on) And while i was still playing... I had 54% sale on striker m2 and Pro pass expired day before meaning.... I have to waste crystals for pro pass or go in another unbalanced map. I choosed pro pass and i had to ask clanmates if they could help me get the striker while im not at home.

True. I have trouble believing anyone could catch 5000 golds without buying.

Full m2 garage also is hard to obtain... Or even full m1 garage. Those supplies... Also hard for free player.

 

What is not irrelevant is your performance in battle and how fun the game is. Achievements do nothing except give you bragging rights.

Well I mostly see the game like TO where there is no ending... I see achievement completing means ive finished the game. Same goes for minecraft... Kill ender dragon and go for achievements.

The only things not obtainable are paints in the Shop, which are purely cosmetic anyway and give no gameplay advantage. Everything else is obtainable. Besides XT missions, you can save up 500k, complete a premium mission, and buy an XT without purchasing crystals. Is it hard? Definitely. Is it possible? Definitely.

Paint is still IG item you want it or no. Thats a fact and its not obtainable by free players.

As a side note it's strange that you're posting this given you're a buyer.

I know the power of drugs and difference in battles when i buy and when i dont (When i was WO1 i was able to decide which team wins till i reached Major and started to face generalissimos and then when i reached general i stopped buying and difference is huge)

Edited January 26, 2017 by beaku
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