48hrs experiment with supplies this weekend

[Jwimmer 2,835]

That is exactly my point, I say make it easier for people to be in non-drug games. Don't just have it as an option for buyers. Give people the choice....Drug or Non-Drug games.

 

Just as a side point I've found a lot of non-drug battles on the Russian servers that you might find enjoyable. They include all maps and are not just BP/XP games.

Glad we agree. There are normally good games on the RU servers midday, but my normal playing time is the middle of the night for Russians, and also for most EN players. Theres normally only around 30 battles across the EN servers, and even fewer on the RU servers, and most of them are lopsided and overrun by druggers.

[Dliver 436]

Both teams will have noobs, both teams will have pros. You shouldn't be able to carry an 8 person team all by yourself. With drugs previously, there can be a horrible team with a skillful and strong drugger vs a team of average to good non-druggers, and the team with 1 incredible drugging player will win. That shouldn't happen, and this update should stop that from happening. If a team is not better than the other, it shouldn't win. Its as simple as that.

I just want to know where these games are. In every game I've been in that allows drugging, most everyone is using.

[Bydo 20,162]

Mafioso

Dear Sir..

 

I have battled with or with out drugs and got with in the top four placement.. but today i never got even close to it .. why... simple because of this so called future update , when i started i started like everyone else with no drugs and then on my second spawn that is when i got the use of drugs but not all ways some times i had to wait till my fourth spawn when i did get to use them.. for picking up drugs i only got may be in a battle 3 drops in a 15 min battle .. this proves that there were nothing but campers at drops and will continue to happen...

 

regular battles are for all players .. there should not be a limited placed on others .. its the same as what another player said if players did not like drug battles then go do pro pass , this is what they created this for and should be used for anyone with or with out drugs ...

 

so like i said before kill the pro pass cause it shows not many have been using it for what it was intended for and also the ones who want non drug battles complain and state they have no crystals to buy / this also works for druggers some can't afford to buy .. so in theory get rid of pro pass and open the games back up to us the players to create battles with or  with out drugs.. this way we are in control of the games like it was in the past ... players were happy and were enjoying battles .. right now all u see and i also i'm not impressed with tanki looking more and more like tanki x .

 

. Hazel  said that  tanki and tanki x was separating ..and will be doing new things in both games .. so far all i see is what goes on in tanki is also happening in tanki x .. and vise versa ...i did post two weeks ago the new drug issue that was going on in tanki x and what happens its also here as a trial .. see spoiler..

 

 

tanki x drug changes in spoiler

 

 

Posted 13 Jan 2017 - 16:29

 mysterious updates...now lets see would tanki be doing what tanki X is planning in the real near future .. i wonder .. this info was just posted today in tanki x and its interesting for players to see this MIGHT BE HAPPENING HERE.. will have to wait and see ..??

 

We have some important news. The supplies in Tanki X are a subject of much debate. Many of you have repeatedly spoken out against the current supply system, and our developers have decided to radically change it. These changes should make the battles more balanced and greatly increase the value of supplies in battles.

These changes will occur in two phases:

Step 1: Balancing the supplies

The changes to the supplies mechanics will occur in one of the next updates. What will change?

• The activation of a certain supply will no longer run the cooldown for other supplies.
• Players will no longer be able to use their supplies right away, upon entering a battle or upon respawning. Pausing the game will not! pause the cooldown on supplies.
• The "Repair Kit" duration will be increased, but the healing power decreased.
• The bonus damage from the "Double Damage" supply, will be reduced.

Step 2: Modules

With the implementation of the modules,

 

supplies are going to be removed from the garage, leaving only the ones dropping on the maps, NOT SURE HOW TANKI WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS when we have a surplus of drugs from day one...not only that if you buy them how would they pay us back...

 

and some of their properties will be applied to the modules.

 

remember this is from tanki x .. and not sure if it will be here soon ??.

 

 

 

 

chat with Hazel

 

 

 

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Posted 30 Jan 2017 - 19:59

frozen_heart, on 30 Jan 2017 - 14:18, said:

 

If so then you are making them into the same game ..

I specifically avoided any mentions about supplies power as my question is only regarding how cooldowns settings feel.

 

Tanki X and Tanki Online will take different path eventually. New game doesn't going to use Striker or upcoming Artillery turrets, while old game will not implement supplies-modules as a concept.

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=348491&page=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 18, 2017 by frozen_heart

[me.aburro.xD 1]

please, no do it, i just buy a supplies kit and i no want to it was ****, give me again my money!!  :ph34r:  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

[Apex_Predator 537]

please, no do it, i just buy a supplies kit and i no want to it was ****, give me again my money!!  :ph34r:  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

here is what i just said, heavy druggers buyers are the only guys saying that this Update sucks, so it means that it's good for other players (us, the public poor people getting toasted in real life, and getting toasted by buyers in tanki too because of the 1500 supply kit).

 

it's either you keep this new cooldowns system and keep the drugs kits, or you keep the regular cooldowns system and remove ALL drugs kits from the shop and from the garage so we can have a fair chance in drugs battles that we love too as free players. 

 

and it's a really good thing we see Tanki do tests and see feedback BEFORE making the changes, that's a good change to theire horrible politics in the last rebalances.

 

HOPE RESTORED IN TANKI  :)

Edited February 18, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Last time Tanki did an "experiment" they permanently removed Cry boxes.........

[Apex_Predator 537]

Last time Tanki did an "experiment" they permanently removed Cry boxes.........

crystal boxes was a bad idea for the gameplay, because greedy crystal diggers players where only focusing on getting those boxes and selfishly multing theire poor team mates.

[Dliver 436]

Mafioso

Dear Sir..

 

I have battled with or with out drugs and got with in the top four placement.. but today i never got even close to it .. why... simple because of this so called future update , when i started i started like everyone else with no drugs and then on my second spawn that is when i got the use of drugs but not all ways some times i had to wait till my fourth spawn when i did get to use them.. for picking up drugs i only got may be in a battle 3 drops in a 15 min battle .. this proves that there were nothing but campers at drops and will continue to happen...

 

regular battles are for all players .. there should not be a limited placed on others .. its the same as what another player said if players did not like drug battles then go do pro pass , this is what they created this for and should be used for anyone with or with out drugs ...

 

so like i said before kill the pro pass cause it shows not many have been using it for what it was intended for and also the ones who want non drug battles complain and state they have no crystals to buy / this also works for druggers some can't afford to buy .. so in theory get rid of pro pass and open the games back up to us the players to create battles with or  with out drugs.. this way we are in control of the games like it was in the past ... players were happy and were enjoying battles .. right now all u see and i also i'm not impressed with tanki looking more and more like tanki x .. they said last week tanki and tanki x was separating ..and will be doing new things in both games .. so far all i see is what goes on in tanki is also happening in tanki x .. and vise versa ...i did post two weeks ago the new drug issue that was going on in tanki x and what happens its also here as a trial ..

 

 

tanki x drug changes in spoiler

 

 

Posted 13 Jan 2017 - 16:29

 mysterious updates...now lets see would tanki be doing what tanki X is planning in the real near future .. i wonder .. this info was just posted today in tanki x and its interesting for players to see this MIGHT BE HAPPENING HERE.. will have to wait and see ..??

 

We have some important news. The supplies in Tanki X are a subject of much debate. Many of you have repeatedly spoken out against the current supply system, and our developers have decided to radically change it. These changes should make the battles more balanced and greatly increase the value of supplies in battles.

These changes will occur in two phases:

Step 1: Balancing the supplies

The changes to the supplies mechanics will occur in one of the next updates. What will change?

• The activation of a certain supply will no longer run the cooldown for other supplies.
• Players will no longer be able to use their supplies right away, upon entering a battle or upon respawning. Pausing the game will not! pause the cooldown on supplies.
• The "Repair Kit" duration will be increased, but the healing power decreased.
• The bonus damage from the "Double Damage" supply, will be reduced.

Step 2: Modules

With the implementation of the modules,

 

supplies are going to be removed from the garage, leaving only the ones dropping on the maps, NOT SURE HOW TANKI WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS when we have a surplus of drugs from day one...not only that if you buy them how would they pay us back...

 

and some of their properties will be applied to the modules.

 

remember this is from tanki x .. and not sure if it will be here soon ??.

 

 

 

All I've got to say is if they do this not only will it ruin a revenue stream for this game but I think it will chase away a lot of players too. I've already started looking and already found another game that I like. That game has no drugs, is very well balanced, and they give you free reign on the maps to use any place you can get too to fight from. Not like Tanki where they try to take away any ambush spots that might be found. I still play both games right now but with stuff like this that may change. Which of course means that my money will go away too.

 

So all you guys that don't want drugs and don't want to pay, just think about this, what will happen when more guys that do spend their money on the game leave. Yes, that's right, Bye Bye game. The developers need to get payed, office space needs to be rented, servers have to be bought or leased, and bandwidth needs to be payed for. If the money goes away so does everything that makes the game possible. So I say again...... The simple solution that will make everyone happy is let people CHOOSE!!!!!!  Let them choose drug or non-drug games without having to pay for it. That way everyone is happy and the money that pays for all this stays.

Edited February 18, 2017 by Dliver

[Bydo 20,162]

ok for one we are all druggers .. due to the fact tanki gives them to us free in missions.. it is our choices to use them in battles or not..

 

the point is that this testing is not working for some 

 

.. get rid of pro passes and just give us back the rights to make our own battles and bring back the multi player card ...

 

trying not to provoke others...

 

 

Dliver please send me a pm on this game .. would like to change from this game in due time .. thanks

 

and i agree get rid of this testing .. $$ do's not fall from the sky .. we the druggers are mainly keeping tanki a float and if there is no druggers where will you be , in a few months .. struggling to get players to return .. good luck with that one, cause since Oct 2015 many have gone and only a small hand full have returned .. to what ???

Edited February 18, 2017 by frozen_heart

[lukey0 27,543]

most of the negative opinions here are from heavy druggers buyers who have unlimited budget behind them from theire parents, 

How to generalize much? I'm a free player who has saved that many supplies that I'll never actually be able to fully use with the old system. Not this new '40 supplies' per match rubbish. 

 

Not all heavy druggers are against it, some minor druggers are too. I think you're missing the point that this experiment accually destroys gameplay. Its boring now.

 

Also some who says its their parents money? What if they are a teenager with a job that wants to spend a bit each month? Either way your point is invalid and a mere saying not a statistic.  

[jdc20181 213]

I have complained forever it seems like - people use supplies they are part of the game thats great, but when you end up with m2's or m3's when you are at a rank where you can't get many decent ones, than its kinda unfair to have a double damaged m3 isda on your rear.

 

And secondly you have no real skill if you have to rely on a consumable. Its a tactical game you gotta use supplies yes, generally I don't I don't even keep the ones from missions I use em as fast as I can. I just don't think they are good for the game. 

 

Not saying supplies are bad, but the ones you can purchase is annoying. 

[jdc20181 213]

Oh and just a FYI at my rank if I keep doing week 4 I can get hundreds of supplies. They give ya 40 some each and so many of the health ones i forget. Regardless, glad they are bringing some stability into the game. 

[Dliver 436]

here is what i just said, heavy druggers buyers are the only guys saying that this Update sucks, so it means that it's good for other players (us, the public poor people getting toasted in real life, and getting toasted by buyers in tanki too because of the 1500 supply kit).

 

it's either you keep this new cooldowns system and keep the drugs kits, or you keep the regular cooldowns system and remove ALL drugs kits from the shop and from the garage so we can have a fair chance in drugs battles that we love too as free players. 

 

and it's a really good thing we see Tanki do tests and see feedback BEFORE making the changes, that's a good change to theire horrible politics in the last rebalances.

 

HOPE RESTORED IN TANKI  :)

Wouldn't giving people the choice of Drug or Non-Drug games without having to pay for the privileged be a better solution? Everyone wants to stick it to the buyers, but remember it's the buyers money that makes this game possible. No money no game. So why not just give people the choice  of  Drug or Non-Drug games, then everyone can play the game the way they want and then argue about who is the most skilled. :D

[Daithi 96]

I play regularly, drug sparingly, have 000s of Supplies that I already cannot use fast enough. & I have never bought a supply!

 

Simples:

If you don't agree with heavy drugging then just leave battle.

Perhaps join a non-drug pro battle. The reason that there aren't that many is cos few want them!

 

If I join a battle to find heavy enemy drugging, I'll leave, simple as that.

 

I've read through 18 pages of this.

Conclusion: Experiment = Utter Nonsense #RemoveThisNoobUpdate

 

Upon reflection, I believe many are confusing normal everyday drugging with Skype Clan/Organized Groups Raiding a battle using mults. They join a side losing a battle mid way, add mults to the winning side, drug like crazy, and steal others hard fought & fairly won battle fund. Turning a battle on its head to their greedy advantage. This is rampant. A decent reporting system is badly needed & repeat mults should be severely punished. My solution to this, no new entrants after 1/3 of battle has passed. Battle will end early & begin fresh again.

Edited February 21, 2017 by Daithi

[DESTRUKCO 51]

Now the non-druggers are telling the druggers to play pro-battles. Its about time too, the druggers have been telling the non-druggers to play pro battles for many years now.

[Jwimmer 2,835]

I just want to know where these games are. In every game I've been in that allows drugging, most everyone is using.

My guess is they won't happen this weekend. Everyone is drugging to see how the new system is. If you want to see those games, be online the few hours after the server update. Historically, most games there that you can join are lopsided, because the few good games are completely full.

[U.5 45]

 bad update supplies

[SeIf.Destructed 236]

 bad update supplies

[Dliver 436]

Now the non-druggers are telling the druggers to play pro-battles. Its about time too, the druggers have been telling the non-druggers to play pro battles for many years now.

I play non-drug games every time I'm on. I like both. With drug games I drug and have fun. With non-drug games I play with no drugs and I have fun. The thing I don't do is whine in non-drug games that I can't use drugs. Unlike the supposed non-drug users who whine about drugs when playing drug allowed games.

[Apex_Predator 537]

How to generalize much? I'm a free player who has saved that many supplies that I'll never actually be able to fully use with the old system. Not this new '40 supplies' per match rubbish.  

 

first of all, nobody asked you to save drugs, it's your choice, i just wasted 100 mines yesterday on a parkour game because i enjoyed having fun with my buddies, it was my choice, so why you blame Tanki for your savings ? :huh: 

 

The main point here is that being 4 times powerful with drugs than the average non drugger is Truly infair and truly destroy the gameplay, and tanki know it, that's why they are working on changing it.

 

Not all heavy druggers are against it, some minor druggers are too. I think you're missing the point that this experiment accually destroys gameplay. Its boring now.

 

it's boring only if you are used to drugging that much, it's your fault not the games fault, tanki default gameplay should we with using drugs occasionally not all the time like heavy drugger like you do, and that's what Tanki treying to make by this experience.

 

Also some who says its their parents money? What if they are a teenager with a job that wants to spend a bit each month? Either way your point is invalid and a mere saying not a statistic.  

 

did you even saw some of my other entries about buyrs ? :blink: i always defend tanki when it make some things just for buyers, and  i have no problem with buyers, in fact, i love buyers, because without them all this will fade away...but i'm against giving them way too much adventage to the level where you can expect that a noob buyer can become first place on DM just right after 10 min of joining and heavely drugging in the battle while the rest of us are there for 45 min.

 

it's not drugs when you are 4 times stronger than the average non drugger, that's called being Godmode_On, and it's time for it to end.  B) 

 

face it, you are just afraid of losing a Goldbox because you never learned how to get it without DD and Health drug in the first place.  ;) 

Edited February 18, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[P-A-C-I-F-I-ST 38]

Honestly, if you're worse today compared to other days, then it just means that you relied too much on your supplies and can't use them efficiently when such strict limits are enforced. Better start practicing, because I have a feeling this "experiment" will stay forever ;)

 

I played multiple battles today and had pretty much no unexpected difference in my effectiveness. Of course my K/D was much lower because I couldn't drug non-stop and dominate everyone else, but that's why this is a good update - it stops buyers with infinite drugs from being OP.

 

And guys, if you like your mindless 12345 key pressing so much - create PRO battles with supplies on and cooldowns off, instead of complaining about the update here. Let free players enjoy the absence of drug abusers for once :)

 

You at tanki online are funny guys. First of all you made a culture of drugers for years doing everything that is there to make money run the game. And i agree it's not. But you made a lot of people using drugs and buying just to defend themselves and play a normal game.Now suddenly you explain no but that is not fair. How come you have this for years there? It seems like multiple personalities run this game.

 

Honestly as you have a "feeling"  that this is super duper i have a "feeling" if you insist on this update it's going to bang on your head like a boomerang. You created it, you supported it for years now you will change the very behaviour you created in the game. 

 

It would be better you fix the lags and multing problem. This update is simply eating dinner in 8 am.

 

Good luck. I don't see it.

[SlavicMan 14]

Come at me 234 !!1!1!!1!1

I sent you friend request in a tanki, but why then you quickly went offline? That is really suspicious....are you...maybe affraid:)?

[Supernatural 2,053]

This is just simply terrible, horrible and goes even below the badness of the average Tanki updates.

 

Everything was quite simple before this (probably permanent) experiment.

1) Wanna join hardcore drug battles? Go RU2-4 and play with our beloved Arabs.

2) Wanna play drug games with smart cooldowns? Go join any of the several hundred/thousand non-pro battles out there.

3) Don't wanna use drugs at all? Go and play pro battles with supplies off.

 

And now look at this. How exactly does removing any smart cooldown help non-druggers? People will go in pairs (e.g. A heavy hull and an Isida) and the heavy will activate full drug, when it's over, the isida does and this goes all over again. Good luck killing them.

Also, non-druggers will be even more annihilated during battles. And those who only played battles with smart cooldowns because they wanted a change from XP/BP or because they can't afford or just don't want to use so many drugs are hopeless as well.

 

Nice update tanki, couldn't have made it more obvious you all want to kill this game and make everyone play that cancer called Tanki X.

Edited February 18, 2017 by Supernatural

[Cortana 4,601]

Next thing you know, Tanki will implement this update in the game, saying that the feedback they received was pretty positive.

[Desty 275]

Next thing you know, Tanki will implement this update in the game, saying that the feedback they received was pretty positive.

 

Don't you consider 10% pretty positive?