48hrs experiment with supplies this weekend

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Why can't the choice for forming drug or non-drug games be available to all. It's simpler and druggers and non-druggers can then just argue over who has more skill.

Yes. This would solve all problems. They could dump this useless experiment to the trash. Free battles should have only one option in the settings, enable or disable garage supplies. All other settings should stay in the pro pass, disable or not MU, alterations, drops, golds, garage supplies, time and destroy limit, private...

 

But, with the battle button, players can't create free battles.....

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Paints, XTs, Premium, Kits, Clans, Turrets and Hulls - all these are massive sources of income for Tanki, which create no disbalance between buyers and free players. And it's really not that hard to come up with more things like that.

It's true for all of this, except premium. Premium creates a disbalance, since a player A can earn 2x more crystals than a player B if he has premium, meaning that he has more crystals, so a complete garage, more MU and alterations, and modules.

 

Imo, the disbalance created by premium > the disbalance created by supplies.

 

I don't know the numbers, but lot of clans make big drugs wars, meaning they buy a lot of supplies. Supplies must be a big sources of $$$ for Tanki. I wonder why they would nerf them that much. Maybe because players are leaving because of too much drugs in the game. Again, I don't know the numbers, but for me, it seems like devs want to shoot themselves in the foot...

[Canada_wins 145]

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Sometimes it's be better to save your supplies and let the enemy take the flag and then do a powerful counter-attack while they are on cooldowns. And if your team is weak, then what can I say? Tough luck.

 

 

CTF is a team effort and the stronger, more organised team is supposed to win. A single player with a lot of drugs shouldn't be able to carry the whole team and resist the full enemy opposition. That was the main problem with CTF before.

 

 

 

 

Which is why the multers/cheaters are now owning Tanki.

I drugged to compete successfully against those friggen cheaters...

[Apex_Predator 537]

Honestly, when was the last time you (or any regular buyer) spent money to buy supplies? And how much was spent on supplies in total?

Developers added so much content to the Shop lately, that supply purchases became merely a small part of a huge variety of purchasable items, so developers can afford to sacrifice income from them in favour of better gameplay.

 

I fully understand that buyers are important to the game, but I was always against the fact that supplies gave an unfair advantage in battles. So while I usually support players when they complain that developers ruin the things they spent their money on, I refuse to show any sympathy to buyers, who specifically spent money to get an advantage over others and now had that ability taken away from them. Buying is good, but only if it doesn't give any gameplay advantage.

That's why we NEED this new system of cooldowns, being 4 times stronger than the average non drugger is killing the gameplay, Buyers don't want this update because they can efort the 1500 supply kit and other drug kits in the garage, we can't, wish gives them a HUGE advantage way more than they already have (they can buy crystals, and buy kits with low prices=huge advance already).

 

WE WANT THIS UPDATE

[Canada_wins 145]

The only reasons I drugged (meaning that I never drugged otherwise and didn't complain when my team was winning or losing during the exceptions to this list):
 

1- other team put fake players onto my team (multing)

2- other team made my team have artificial lag hack

3- enough of the above happened to noticeably decrease my K/D so I'm trying to get back to 3.50 and need to drug to do so

4- when gold boxes drop

 

...and since I'm not a hypocrite, I also complain when my team cheats by multing the other team!

[Apex_Predator 537]

Oh my. Then why would people spend money on this game when they get no advantage in return? Supplies don't give an unfair advantage, they give an advantage people paid for.

 

Have fun playing a game without druggers, but without druggers and buyers, there won't be a game to play

Being 4 times stronger (5 times stronger if health drug used) is not just an advantage, it's called GAME OVER ALREADY for the poor apponents, thats why we need this update.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[Dliver 436]

Being 4 times stronger (5 times stronger if health drug used) is not just anadvantage, it's called GAME OVER ALREADY for the poor apponents, thats why we need this upThat's why there are no drug games

That's why there are no-drug games. If you don't like drugs then join one of them. If you can't find one, and I'm sorry but you have no choice, then purchase a pro pass and form one yourself.

[Apex_Predator 537]

Tanki has never listened to players, and they won't start doing it now. They could just make a poll and let every player have their own vote. But apparently the decision about this has already been made, and all the negative feedback from here will go into the trash can.

what negative feedback ? does your feedback count when you have +6000 drugs ? being one of the 1% top buyers in Tanki does actually make this update bad for you, because you are used to being a superTank, now, you won't, you will be just average, like everyone else, and that's what you hate, you guys HATE True Balance, you want to stay OP forever just because your parents can give you money for this game.  -_- 

 

people hated the battle creation update too way MORE than this one, but time has passed, and now we all see that that update was one of the best things Tanki did, now most players have pro pass, so we can play those super 999 cp battles that we get a TON of crystals from it, the same things will happen here, i garantee it.

 

The sad part is Tanki won't make this update, because BUYERS don't like it.  :(

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[Jwimmer 2,835]

  ((  Supplies ))

 

Lets talk about (Supplies) they are equal in the game why is that well for 1 i buy mine as well as anyone else can its not Tankis fault its the players who don't have the money to buy the supplies so do we knock down the buyers why would you do that that is how Tanki makes there money i understand that so let them cry its unfair to people like my self that buys the equipment to play Tanki that is why they are create battles is allowed so for people who don't have the supplies to go fight battles that is a no supplie battle but this is bull keep this mess up i will be leaving the game i know that isn't what tanki wants is players leaving 

Other than the fact that I had no idea what you are trying to say after line 1, here is my response:

 

You are saying tanki should make the game unfair for people who either spend their money on more important things, or don't have the money at all? That is SUCH a conceited thing to say. This is a free-to-play game, and everyone should atleast be able to play well using skill, even if they cannot afford supplies.

 

If you respond with another run-on-andon-andon-andon sentence, I'm not even going to try to read it. I get through reading rough grammar,  but not that.

[Dliver 436]

Here's a simple question. Why are most games drug allowed games?..... tick tock tick tock tick tock .... It's because most players like them. If it was the other way around then you would have to get a pro pass to form Drug allowed games and the BATTLE button would send you to drug-less games.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Dliver

[Apex_Predator 537]

That's why there are no-drug games. If you don't like drugs then join one of them. If you can't find one, and I'm sorry but you have no choice, then purchase a pro pass and form one yourself.

funny, because that what i just said to other guy who doesn't like drugs at all.

 

why i can't join drug wars? i love them too and they are part of the game, and i have the right to join them, i'm a drugger too, but when a buyer uses 100 supply in 30 min, how in hell i could be competitive as free player ?  <_<

 

i don't hate drugs, i LOVE drugs, and i would been SO mad if they remove it completly, but what i hate is that Buyers have a ratio of 100 drugs for every 1 drug we have, and that's is just make the gameplay out of balance.

 

Tanki devlopper's know this fact, and they are working on changing it, and i think this update is good for this problem.   :rolleyes: 

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[Canada_wins 145]

I am mad!!! :angry:

 

I just finished a CTF game (Noise map) with a 26.00 K/D ratio...I'm shocked that I was so high, until I clicked Tab and noticed my team had cheated against the other team by putting a couple fake players onto their team.

I wish it hadn't taken me almost a full round to realize this but I typed my complaints anyway AND reported the mults...

 

...this new version simply makes it easier to cheat, because the victims can't use drugs nonstop to defend themselves from the cheaters.

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[Apex_Predator 537]

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please stop writing in VERY big letters, it's SO distracting,

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[lukey0 27,543]

That's why we NEED this new system of cooldowns, being 4 times stronger than the average non drugger is killing the gameplay, Buyers don't want this update because they can efort the 1500 supply kit and other drug kits in the garage, we can't, wish gives them a HUGE advantage way more than they already have (they can buy crystals, and buy kits with low prices=huge advance already).

 

WE WANT THIS UPDATE

I don't think you realize but you actually contradict yourself. With this update you ARE 4X STRONGER with NO effort every minute. Before you have to COMBINE DROPS to become 4X STRONGER.  So there is even less skill with this update, mindlessly press 234 and wait a stupidly long cooldown which slows down battles. 

 

Also stop with the white text and huge font. Its annoying. 

[Apex_Predator 537]

I don't think you realize but you actually contradict yourself. With this update you ARE 4X STRONGER with NO effort every minute. Before you have to COMBINE DROPS to become 4X STRONGER.  So there is even less skill with this update, mindlessly press 234 and wait a stupidly long cooldown which slows down battles. 

 

Also stop with the white text and huge font. Its annoying. 

yes, you can be 4X stronger, but then you will be without any drugs for the whole cooldown time, in the other system, you can get DA+health drugs after each respawn, and thats why buyers love it.  <_< 

 

if they just removed the cooldown sytem, and kept only the 234 buttons update, i'm sure all of you buyers will love this update.  -_- 

 

we love this update   :wub: 

 

 

i don't think my font is annoying :blink:  

i think it's legal as long i don't write all my text in 24 size, wich, to this day i never used it ones, and i rarely use 18 size as well, and i never use it for full text or comment, NEVER.  

and i like the color, so i can see my posts so easily.  

anyway, i will ask moderator, if my font is illegal i will change it.  :) 

but don't make the topic all about my font, this is about the new drugs system.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[Dliver 436]

funny, because that what i just said to other guy who doesn't like drugs at all.

 

why i can't join drug wars? i love them too and they are part of the game, and i have the right to join them, i'm a drugger too, but when a buyer uses 100 supply in 30 min, how in hell i could be competitive as free player ?  <_<

 

i don't hate drugs, i LOVE drugs, and i would been SO mad if they remove it completly, but what i hate is that Buyers have a ratio of 100 drugs for every 1 drug we have, and that's is just make the gameplay out of balance.

 

Tanki devlopper's know this fact, and they are working on changing it, and i think this update is good for this problem.   :rolleyes: 

Funny that, according to your profile you've only been playing for a month and now you know everything.

 

I've played this game for about 5 years now. I've been through most of the updates and I just have to say that you don't know just how bad this so called experiment is. I will admit some adjustments to supplies might be good. But this one is just plain bad.

[L.H.F.H 922]

Bad this is not how tanki suppose to go

[Apex_Predator 537]

Funny that, according to your profile you've only been playing for a month and now you know everything.

 

I've played this game for about 5 years now. I've been through most of the updates and I just have to say that you don't know just how bad this so called experiment is. I will admit some adjustments to supplies might be good. But this one is just plain bad.

funny, that you assume that this is my main account without even asking.

 

i'm at rank MAJOR in my main account, and thats not even my first account, that account is just from july 2016, i had other account, but i didn't invest well because i was noob.  :( 

 

what make you think i'm here since just one month only ? i've been here since March 2016, i've been in the april fools day, and got so many golds, and i've been in mai holiday as well...i got the Euro prize, and won one Tanki thinking challenge, and won a meme contest on Tanki facebook page when Tanki was down in the summer for a day...such a good memories  :wub: 

 

and its make me feel sad about your thinking skills, that just because i have noob account, i have no right to state my opinion about anything in this game.  -_- 

 

you thinking that i'm here just for one month is just, plain lame, and that just your opinion, not what reality is, think about it, Kid.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[Canada_wins 145]

I just completed a few more games to finish my missions and I'm even more mad now!!!
 

...this time I was on teams who the other team multed (put fake players onto my teams).

 

What was my K/D this time by being on the victim side? 0.8

 

 

 

Until Tanki removes multing and hacking, full drugging is the only solution...so bring it back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Dliver 436]

funny, that you assume that this is my main account without even asking.

 

i'm at rank MAJOR in my main account, what make you think i'm here since just one month only ? i've been here since March 2016, and i truly mastered this game in a very short time, i got the Euro prize, and won some Tanki thinking challenge, and won a meme contest on Tanki facebook page when Tanki was down in the summer for a day...such a good memories :wub:

 

and its make me feel sad about your thinking skills, that just because i have noob account, i have no right to state my opinion about anything in this game. -_-

 

you thinking that i'm here just for one month is just, plain lame, and that just your opinion, not what reality is, think about it, Kid.

My apologies. I got the one month from the profile for the name you are using on this post. Plus I don't think you shouldn't post, but it is obvious from your comments on this topic that you are lacking in understanding fully this subject.

 

So I still stand on my main point that this is a very bad idea on how to adjust supplies. If an adjustment is even needed.

Edited February 19, 2017 by Dliver

[Apex_Predator 537]

My apologies. I got the one month from the profile for the name you are using on this post. Plus I don't think you shouldn't post, but it is obvious that from your comments on this topic that you are lacking in understanding fully this subject.

 

So I still stand on my main point that this is a very bad idea on how to adjust supplies. If an adjustment is even needed.

My apologies as well  :) 

 

we may see things diffrent about this update, but i'm sure it won't be bad as the october balance, i see this update as the "creat battles update" when everybody hated it at first, but now most players have no problem with it despite all the negative feedback in the first days.

 

in this update, we can save our drugs, and be on the same level of drugging as the heavy buyers, how cool is that  :wub: 

[lukey0 27,543]

yes, you can be 4X stronger, but then you will be without any drugs for the whole cooldown time, in the other system, you can get DA+health drugs after each respawn, and thats why buyers PLAYERS love it.    <_<

 

if they just removed the cooldown sytem, and kept only the 234 buttons update, i'm sure all of you buyers will love this update.  -_- 

 

we love this update   :wub: 

 

 

i don't think my font is annoying :blink:  

i think it's legal as long i don't write all my text in 24 size, wich, to this day i never used it ones, and i rarely use 18 size as well, and i never use it for full text or comment, NEVER.  

and i like the color, so i can see my posts so easily.  

anyway, i will ask moderator, if my font is illegal i will change it.  :) 

but don't make the topic all about my font, this is about the new drugs system.

Sorry I had to fix it for you. Don't assume all druggers are buyers. I've never spent a cent on this account, and I don't plan to. Now knowing that you're only a Major and been here for 11months, shows how inexperienced you are. You haven't even reached the end of the game to know what real drug wars are, and how fun they are to play in. You would be arguing about 1 in 40 players at your rank. These 'buyers' are very uncommon at Major.

 

Also I never said your text is 'illegal' I just said it was annoying. *Slaps hand though face*

[Apex_Predator 537]

Sorry I had to fix it for you. Don't assume all druggers are buyers. I've never spent a cent on this account, and I don't plan to. Now knowing that you're only a Major and been here for 11months, shows how inexperienced you are. You haven't even reached the end of the game to know what real drug wars are, and how fun they are to play in. You would be arguing about 1 in 40 players at your rank. These 'buyers' are very uncommon at Major.

 

Also I never said your text is 'illegal' I just said it was annoying. *Slaps hand though face*

 

 what i mean by buyers=who got the 1500 drug kit, not ALL buyers, why would i hate on buyers ?  :huh:

 

i truly love buyres, because we have this game for free because of them  :wub:  and plus, there are buyers who rarely drug, just to let you know.

 

 i can understand why you hate this update, you've been here longer than most of us, you got really good at this, you feel like you are somebody: a LEGEND, while in real life, you may not, Tanki is making updates for a better gameplay, and you hate it because you think you will lose your legacy, well, i hate to be the one to say this for you, but THERE IS NO LEGACY HERE, because it's just a game.  :)

 

i do understand that some guys have though times in real life, and have no real value there, that's what virtual games like Tanki are for anyway: to give it's members FAKE feelings of superiority and achievement.

 

 

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator

[lukey0 27,543]

 what i mean by buyers=who got the 1500 drug kit, not ALL buyers, why would i hate on buyers ?  :huh:

 

i truly love buyres, because we have this game for free because of them  :wub:  and plus, there are buyers who rarely drug, just to let you know.

 

 i can understand why you hate this update, you've been here longer than most of us, you got really good at this, you feel like you are somebody: a LEGEND, while in real life, you may not, Tanki is making updates for a better gameplay, and you hate it because you think you will lose your legacy, well, i hate to be the one to say this for you, but THERE IS NO LEGACY HERE, because it's just a game.  :)

 

i do understand that some guys have though times in real life, and have no real value there, that's what virtual games like Tanki are for anyway: to give it's members FAKE feelings of superiority and achievement.

 

Now you like buyers? But you were just complaining about how annoying they are and how much they drug...

 

And for the record I have a great life in the real world, Tanki takes second place to it. Meaning I choose friends over Tanki because it is just a game.

 

Either way lets end this pointless post war, its obvious we have both made our opinions and we are sticking to them. Have a good day. :)

[Apex_Predator 537]

Now you like buyers? But you were just complaining about how annoying they are and how much they drug...

 

And for the record I have a great life in the real world, Tanki takes second place to it. Meaning I choose friends over Tanki because it is just a game.

 

Either way lets end this pointless post war, its obvious we have both made our opinions and we are sticking to them. Have a good day. :)

sure,

 

but i never hated buyers  :o 

 

a quick look at my profile and you will see that i mostly defend buyers, not the other way around.

 

anyway, good day to you sir, and sorry if i reminded you of your reality.  :(

 

and don't worry, i'm sure now they won't make this update anyway :) because they know that being OP here is what make most of you loggin here, and good luck to you in real life, i have a feeling that you need it if you already wasted more that 1000 hours of your life on Tanki. 

 

good luck bro  :) 

Edited February 19, 2017 by Apex_Predator