Patch Update #449 - Released 16th March 2017

[Bydo 20,124]

How can that happen? It will ruin the point of kits completely. Say I have Hornet M2 and Freeze M2 and I am going for the Paladin kit. Well if the new MU system is implemented for M2s I will be forced to upgrade my M2s to remain competitive with everyone else who is doing the same thing, and then I won't have enough crystals to buy the kit.  But if I save up to buy the kit I can't divert any crystals to upgrading and I will be playing at a large disadvantage.

 

So it only works if you plan on sticking with your favorite turret and hull, instead of using a different combo when you can get M3. And that might kill the variety of the game; forcing players to make their equipment choices early.

 

If you could "sell" equipment it might work...

 

At least make it so that fully MU'ed items are free in a kit or such.

I agree at less 85 % of the players enjoy changing to new turrets and hulls in game play, why stick the same boring set up ( excuse me for this ) there is no fun for the average players.. also if you wanted to do XP/BP you would not be able to do it with a  dictator and insida combo .. not going to happen.. most players like to have a variety of items to change battles with , also if needing to have insida in battles and all you have is twins how is that going to improve your battle..

[Akame 4,578]

Another major thing I am not happy with,

a stock,

yes i repeat a stock m0 heavy, has the same armor/hp as an m4 light hull, is this a joke?

the hulls need to be nerfed, i reckon light: 800, medium : 1200 and heavy :1600

these values as just an example, and would be more balanced rather than the 1000, 1500 and 2000 armor of stock m0 hulls.

 

Yes wasp m4 may be much agile and faster, but having the same armor as a stock m0 heavy is pretty lame, people might as well keep an m0 heavy to use at legend ranks

[r_sg971 163]

I like this update.

Buyers have slightly reduced power now.

 

But removing discounts on kits on special days : im not too sure whether I like this or not.

 

At Lieutenant General, almost all players have m3s.

So non buyers need to have m3s also, but current prices for kits are too high.

 

So either lower kit prices, or remove paints and protections from kits, or give more crystals to non buyers in daily missions, or make it cheaper to upgrade to m2 50/50. Fomr 25/50 onwards, steps are too expensive.

And we cant wait till Marshal to get m3s, since Lieutenant General to Marshal is long time with m2s.

 

And to all those Legends with m4s complaining : You need to rely on your skills more. Why afraid? m3 still weaker than m4.

Edited March 16, 2017 by r_sg971

[Akame 4,578]

I like this update.

Buyers have slightly reduced power now.

 

But removing discounts on kits on special days : im not too sure whether I like this or not.

 

At Lieutenant General, almost all players have m3s.

So non buyers need to have m3s also, but current prices for kits are too high.

 

So either lower kit prices, or remove paints and protections from kits, or give more crystals to non buyers in daily missions, or make it cheaper to upgrade to m2 50/50. Fomr 25/50 onwards, steps are too expensive.

And we cant wait till Marshal to get m3s, since Lieutenant General to Marshal is long time with m2s.

 

And to all those Legends with m4s complaining : You need to rely on your skills more. Why afraid? m3 still weaker than m4.

hhhhh, u clearly havent read the whole convo, go spend 2k$ on something and watch it diminish then come back please

[r_sg971 163]

Why should buyers win each time? Non buyers should also have chance if they have more skill.

I dont like this "pay to win policy" which you apparently believe in.

[Akame 4,578]

Why should buyers win each time? Non buyers should also have chance if they have more skill.

I dont like this "pay to win policy" which you apparently believe in.

buyers are what have kept this game running and even tank x up, without buyers i dont think this game would be financially stable

 

also, if u ever invest money, u always expect something good in return,

 

also you forgot that there are many non-pay2play tankers at legend who are annoyed with their m4's being weak, also not forgetting those f2p marshals who invest their playing time wisely for 1 darn m4 then realise that just having a couple more m3's would have been better than that one m4

 

m4 hammer hits 1080, m0 light is 1000 armor, barely is a 1 shot, also we are mainly just bugged by the fact that every single stock stat got buffed by such a value, also see my statement on m4 light and m0 stock heavy, u really believe these stats are balanced?

Edited March 16, 2017 by Akame

[Bydo 20,124]

I like this update.

Buyers have slightly reduced power now.

 

But removing discounts on kits on special days : im not too sure whether I like this or not.

 

At Lieutenant General, almost all players have m3s.

So non buyers need to have m3s also, but current prices for kits are too high.

 

So either lower kit prices, or remove paints and protections from kits, or give more crystals to non buyers in daily missions, or make it cheaper to upgrade to m2 50/50. Fomr 25/50 onwards, steps are too expensive.

And we cant wait till Marshal to get m3s, since Lieutenant General to Marshal is long time with m2s.

 

And to all those Legends with m4s complaining : You need to rely on your skills more. Why afraid? m3 still weaker than m4.

we have skills but when you paid for all those upgrades that have them cut in half ( basically ) its like being robbed.. think of being in our place , battling and working hard to get the level you are to be ale to battle with good players then having lower ranks m3 that is now being able to be upgraded faster to our levels.. it leaves little room for legends to more any higher in m4 or higher were all now left at the same level earlier then later , for some players .. so yea its as bad as the 2015 balancing program which tons of players started to leave...sorry if this offends anyone

Edited March 16, 2017 by Bydo

[realbigred 101]

"Also, in case you missed that part, fully MUing a piece of equipment is now a lot cheaper. And that's not to benefit the players?"

 

 

Cedric, I am sorry but I was under the impression that the total cost of MU's would be the same - just that you would have to buy them in bigger lumps. That's great if you buy your crystals but if you earn them it means much longer periods between any increase in performance.

This is the push towards making players buy upgrades - the time factor not cost.

 

I notice that you make no comment about the reduction of crystals being offered in daily missions - I guess that says it all.

[r_sg971 163]

okay, I get your point.

 

But think about it : why does anyone get better equipment? To give them better chance at winning games?

Winning is usually what people care for in games?

 

Earlier with m4s you had like 60% chance of winning. Now it is maybe 55%.

But its still pretty even contest.

 

You guys sound like 7 feet tall professional boxers who like to beat up school children everyday for their daily dose of fun.

[Tofu 6,773]

20 pages in 1 day is quite impressive

[Akame 4,578]

Earlier with m4s you had like 60% chance of winning. Now it is maybe 55%.

But its still pretty even contest.

How exactly did you get these values? Please do enlighten us ))

[Bydo 20,124]

those who are fully m4 can't do any more upgrades unless tanki adds more for us like ranks .. till then once you get this high your stuck and yea you will be taking players out.. but also exp has a big chunk to add into this not just upgrades

 

 

 

okay, I get your point.

 

But think about it : why does anyone get better equipment? To give them better chance at winning games?

Winning is usually what people care for in games?

 

Earlier with m4s you had like 60% chance of winning. Now it is maybe 55%.

But its still pretty even contest.

 

You guys sound like 7 feet tall professional boxers who like to beat up school children everyday for their daily dose of fun.

i suggested in the idea section is to have the legends battle with only legends from a certain level and up so this would cut down on players getting taken out faster and would make the lower ranks better in game play , but it was turned down , in my books for no good reason when there is enough legends that want more one on one with there own rank instead we have to have lower ranks who are still not experienced enough to battle with.. and don't get me wrong i do enjoy a good battle in cp with lower ranks .. but when you have the main team on one side mostly m4 legends battling against m3 gizmo who are not fully upgraded it does put pressure on the legends on your team to fight harder or even the lower ranks on your team to battle more , in some cases yea its great but then when your doing all the work and you feel your team mates are not working enough then why bother even trying .. so yea it works both ways in battles.. sure we can get pro passes but even then we also have lower ranks who destroy the game for no good reason.. we have been also complaining about this for years ..we do have the servers to add this / due to the fact there is less players on the servers ..

Edited March 16, 2017 by Bydo

[daudiii 61]

I have almost never bought crystals. I have purchased only 196 crystals to get first purchase reward. I haved saved about 880k crystals. Further i synchronized my daily earned exp so to rank up to lieutenant general on may sale so i can get m3 kit and mu it to m4. But now no events discounts on kit , my budget will be upset. Although i have stated earlier that i like it but now i see that kits will be much expensive without sale. Also it is long journey from lieutenant general to marshal to be made by m2 combo. It is hard to see my hard earned and saved crystals go to waste.

Edited March 16, 2017 by daudiii

[Bydo 20,124]

I have almost never bought crystals. I have purchased only 196 crystals to get first purchase reward. I haved saved about 880k crystals. Further i synchronized my daily earned exp so to rank up to lieutenant general on may sale so i can get m3 kit and mu it to m4. But now no events discounts on kit , my budget will be upset. Although i have stated earlier that i like it but now i see that kits will be much expensive without sale. Also it is long journey from lieutenant general to marshal to be made by m2 combo. It is hard to see my hard earned and saved crystals go to waste.

there are sales coming April 1st is one but what is on sale we wont know until the date gets closer the big sale is in June for there Birthday sale .. so either save for the small one or the big one.. your choice..

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

You know this is not true, right? Everybody will be upset that they had to pay more previously.

I get your point, but I think the number of anoyed people would be way smaller.

 

 

I think about something like this:

• M3- MU 1..34 get cheaper, mu35 stays about the same, mu36..50 are more expensive.
• The overall sum of MU prices for M3 mu1..50 stays the same

 

• -> all M4 players have nothing to complain about.

 

• If a player's equipment mu-level is somewhere between 1 and 49, then we could:

  - calculate how much crystals his mu level is worth (price base = regular proice).

  - check what' the higher mu level: his current level or the level he would be able to purchase with the crystals his current level was worth

  - give him the one that is higher.

 

This would boost a bit the mu's between 1 and 40, while it would leave the mu's 40..50 most likely untouched (I have not calculated that, but you for sure know that and get the idea).

 

I think that's a pretty fair deal.

(and yes, some, few, players would complain.. but they are welcome to make a better proposal)

[r_carlo1234 118]

To rise, for example, M0 light hulls from 700is to 1000ish and keep M4 where it is, they had to also rise M1s, M2s and M3s. 

 

I'm thinking they added 300ish to M0s, 225ish to M1s, 150ish to m2s and 75ish to M3s for their goal.

 

Every modification got negatively affected not just M4s. But by an small amount.

 

Do you really love playing against people with weaker equipment?

Edited March 16, 2017 by r_carlo1234

[FailArmyGT 210]

Idk, its only good for me, not only in battles but even getting easily golds and XP.

Isn't it good?

[Bydo 20,124]

ok for one I have three m4 accounts and i'm sorry if were angry about this but we paided full price on these items over the years along with some sale events.. so yea we have every right..

 

so you all understand what i'm saying... players who have m3 fully upgraded call them m4 and add to the system m4 with upgrades to reach the level of m5 .. this way we have something more to add to the legend ranks .. making us stronger and allowing us to battle with only  legend ranks .. so this way it can leave other lower ranks like gizmo and down to battle with out having over powered tanks ..

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

ok for one I have three m4 accounts and i'm sorry if were angry about this but we paided full price on these items over the years along with some sale events.. so yea we have every right..

 

so you all understand what i'm saying... players who have m3 fully upgraded call them m4 and add to the system m4 with upgrades to reach the level of m5 .. this way we have something more to add to the legend ranks .. making us stronger and allowing us to battle with only  legend ranks .. so this way it can leave other lower ranks like gizmo and down to battle with out having over powered tanks ..

When you fully micro-upgrade those M5's, you get M6's B)

[FailArmyGT 210]

Lol.

Why they dont make new style for m4 hulls and guns. m3/m2/m1 has their own style.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Lol.

Why they dont make new style for m4 hulls and guns. m3/m2/m1 has their own style.

That's already [Planned]

[Mofuka 30]

we have skills but when you paid for all those upgrades that have them cut in half ( basically ) its like being robbed.. think of being in our place , battling and working hard to get the level you are to be ale to battle with good players then having lower ranks m3 that is now being able to be upgraded faster to our levels.. it leaves little room for legends to more any higher in m4 or higher were all now left at the same level earlier then later , for some players .. so yea its as bad as the 2015 balancing program which tons of players started to leave...sorry if this offends anyone

How is M3 going to be upgraded faster to M4 now?? The MU half price changes are only for M0-M1 modifications.

 

Stock equipment got increase of just around 5%. That's too little to make any noticeable difference. I don't know why are you crying. There is still the same gap between M3 and M4. I'd like to be able to do upgrades at half price too. Older players upgraded to M4 on the cheap before the MU update a year ago. Everyone who had upgraded damage or protection got full M4 for free. Now for players that come from below is impossible to upgrade to M4. That should be changed. This update is a step in the right direction, but still not enough.

[FailArmyGT 210]

That's already [Planned]

So they will plan it?

It would be nice.

they must change the XTs too!

[Mofuka 30]

those who are fully m4 can't do any more upgrades unless tanki adds more for us like ranks ..

 

 

They just created a new rank for you recently and gave you a tasty crystals reward. You will always want more and more. There are already enough many ranks, if they add more, the game will become unfriendly to new players, It takes ages to get to the highest rank, everyone's goal is to get to the highest level, if that's not achievable, they won't bother playing it.

[smokeyh2 1,512]

Why should buyers win each time? Non buyers should also have chance if they have more skill.

I dont like this "pay to win policy" which you apparently believe in.

you obviously dont understand how business works

tanki like any other business including the one i owned till i retired due to ill health requires whats known as cash flow

tanki needs money flowing in to cover costs

so how do you think tanki raises this money ?

people like me and other buyers are the ones that keep  this game running

you dont really think tanki developers and other staff finance this game themselves ?

its not about skill 

ive met many buyers with good equipment who could'nt hit a barn door at point blank range

Edited March 16, 2017 by smokeyh2