Patch Update #449 - Released 16th March 2017

[misafeco 713]

I don't really care about M4 yet, but it sucks discounts don't affect kits. I understand why the developers made this change, but after one of the biggest discount of all time (March 8) it's really bad for any players who wants to buy cheaper kits.

[Mofuka 30]

95% more powerful?! so lets say we talk about m3 light, 1765 armor, ur saying that m4 is 95% stronger, but 2000/1765 says something else,

m4's are only 13.3% stronger than the m3 (atleast proven for light hulls),

before the buff, light m3's had 1682 (roughly) armor, 2000/1282 = 18.9%, i see no 95% here, next time you wish to state a value, please use statistics to prove it.

 

P.s spending 600k on an MU and SU Sale of 50% and 70% respectively to get an m4 and now having a 13.3% advantage is utter rubbish.

ofcourse i have only studied light hulls at m3 and m4, not gonna bother going thru the rest, you can do it yourself.

 

ooo, i forgot, supplies i.e DA and DD give 100% advantage each, u should be more worried about druggers, not m4's m4's have a mere small advantage compared to druggers, yes i have seen many m4's who have no drugs or dont drug, so m4's arent really much of a threat.

 

Ok, that wasn't correct and I knew it as I'm typing. But it's true that M3 got around 5% buff for each item. Do these 5% really make big difference for you? Do you happen to lose to M3 players more often now?

 

I made calculation with Viking. After the changes M1 viking is roughly 23% stronger than M0, M2 is 19% stronger than M1, M3 is 10% stronger than M2 and M4 is 15% stronger than M3, if we compare protection.

As you see M4 still has decent advantage of M3, while M3 is just 10% better than M2. Maybe I should complain, not you.

 

Hammer M3 is 13,5% stronger than M2 and M4 is 12% stronger than M3. I can't calculate all items, but it still looks balanced enough.

[AliceTreatPU 92]

In the end, all fall before EULA

[ghost-guns 1,486]

I opened a noob account a few months ago to try some different gameplay. Never again. Once I got to staff sergeant the games were dominated by smoky M2 (M1 fully micro upgraded) and fire M2. These are the same losers that buy buy buy on their main account and use M4s with a never ending supply of drugs.

[Bydo 20,123]

I opened a noob account a few months ago to try some different gameplay. Never again. Once I got to staff sergeant the games were dominated by smoky M2 (M1 fully micro upgraded) and fire M2. These are the same losers that buy buy buy on their main account and use M4s with a never ending supply of drugs.

its been like that for years .. the only way around this would be to battle in private battles to get to ranking or try doing it when there not so many on with drugs .. try going on when the Canadian / American groups start ..I find they use less in drugs..

[Rolling_Thunder69 34]

Bunch of baloney ...this was the only way you could afford paints and protection.  

 

"Bulk discounts for buying items of the same type will be removed, and discounts will no longer apply to product kits. Additionally, bonus supplies will be removed from garage kits."

 

BRING BACK THE DAILY GIFTS AND keep the daily missions *chores for those who like them.

 

Hike the prices of everything then eliminate all discounts you possibly can.

 

Paint and protection (but not limited to these) are ridiculously priced, you can't even afford basic protection at lower ranks.

 

Been a player a long time and spent plenty of real money on lots of accounts.....I'm done with spending.

 

Signed,

Disappointed and Discouraged. 

[AliceTreatPU 92]

I opened a noob account a few months ago to try some different gameplay. Never again. Once I got to staff sergeant the games were dominated by smoky M2 (M1 fully micro upgraded) and fire M2. These are the same losers that buy buy buy on their main account and use M4s with a never ending supply of drugs.

Buyer is not loser. He not able to lose when he dont want it after all.

As no one want to become loser... forgive him please :P

 

Well, for workaround, there always pro-battle there. but yeah. it seem all love drug game. :D

Edited March 17, 2017 by AliceTreatPU

[Bydo 20,123]

Bunch of baloney ...this was the only way you could afford paints and protection.  

 

"Bulk discounts for buying items of the same type will be removed, and discounts will no longer apply to product kits. Additionally, bonus supplies will be removed from garage kits."

 

BRING BACK THE DAILY GIFTS AND keep the daily missions *chores for those who like them.

 

Hike the prices of everything then eliminate all discounts you possibly can.

 

Paint and protection (but not limited to these) are ridiculously priced, you can't even afford basic protection at lower ranks.

 

Been a player a long time and spent plenty of real money on lots of accounts.....I'm done with spending.

 

Signed,

Disappointed and Discouraged. 

check out the v-log , they claim it was to do with the economics of the game is why its gone.. in other words it looks like there were loosing money on this deal

[misafeco 713]

check out the v-log , they claim it was to do with the economics of the game is why its gone.. in other words it looks like there were loosing money on this deal

But again, why they announced one of the biggest discounts of all time one week earlier?

[FTW 240]

Those updates are ruining the game balance badly... It affects on players playing-style (In Game).

Also about the changes in supplies bounce on the kits.. Honestly it's not good and now you've ruined the game .. It's dying dead anyways.

You have even removed the dislike button from forum to prevent us from disliking/giving our opinion about the game, Keep going devs

Rest in peace devs.

Edited March 17, 2017 by FTW

[Bydo 20,123]

But again, why they announced one of the biggest discounts of all time one week earlier?

that's how company's get you roped in to buying  things.. one day regular price in about 2 weeks later or less item goes on sale , when it goes on sale most of the time the good sizes are all ready gone or the one you want due to its more popular .. its like some company's use bright colors which attracts the eye to there products where as the ugly colors you seldom see them using cause why would someone buy a item in ugly colors they would rather have a nice bright item that stands out .. its a marketing scam that's been around for year's.

.also another way is to have company staff promote items with in the company, to say how great it is , or how it would i'm prove your looks ,, like go into any store to get a sales staff to help you buy a shirt and they will give you the top of the line highest cost items and say the match your eye's or you look good in it where really you don't .. these are sales tactics in business .. you might want to read up on them on the internet and educate the best you can so you know how to be a good consumer shopper..

Edited March 17, 2017 by Bydo

[misafeco 713]

Those updates are ruining the game balance badly... It affects on players playing-style (In Game).

Also about the changes in supplies bounce on the kits.. Honestly it's not good and now you've ruined the game .. It's dying dead anyways.

You have even removed the dislike button from forum to prevent us from disliking/giving our opinion about the game, Keep going devs

Rest in peace devs.

I'm laughing so hard. :DDD

[FailArmyGT 210]

xD

[Bydo 20,123]

so for those who have no clue about the % on items this is based on a higher rank account sale item.. these are no longer in the garage to purchase ...

this is a older post ,,,so prices are not the same in the garage as they are now...

 

The section in red are no longer available to players at all ranks

Edited March 17, 2017 by Bydo

[just.a.girl.digger 104]

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[Akame 4,578]

Ok, that wasn't correct and I knew it as I'm typing. But it's true that M3 got around 5% buff for each item. Do these 5% really make big difference for you? Do you happen to lose to M3 players more often now?

 

I made calculation with Viking. After the changes M1 viking is roughly 23% stronger than M0, M2 is 19% stronger than M1, M3 is 10% stronger than M2 and M4 is 15% stronger than M3, if we compare protection.

As you see M4 still has decent advantage of M3, while M3 is just 10% better than M2. Maybe I should complain, not you.

 

Hammer M3 is 13,5% stronger than M2 and M4 is 12% stronger than M3. I can't calculate all items, but it still looks balanced enough.

exactly my point, all these buffs are imbalanced, i have to now calculate every MU and check what i can kill and what not, so after synchronizing data i have to now restudy the stats, which are still not updated on the wiki yet

[Tani_S 736]

 

 

so for those who have no clue about the % on items this is based on a higher rank account sale item.. these are no longer in the garage to purchase ...

this is a older post ,,,so prices are not the same in the garage as they are now...

 

 

Personal discounts are still in the game, I just had one yesterday. They appear randomly and the % is also random I think. Since the update left the personal discounts untouched, I believe that you are still able to combine these discounts with celebration discount on item in the garage (but not in items of kits tho).

[Bydo 20,123]

Personal discounts are still in the game, I just had one yesterday. They appear randomly and the % is also random I think. Since the update left the personal discounts untouched, I believe that you are still able to combine these discounts with celebration discount on item in the garage (but not in items of kits tho).

Other changes

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Bulk discounts for buying items of the same type will be removed, and discounts will no longer apply to product kits. Additionally, bonus supplies will be removed from garage kits.

 

I think this is getting everyone more confused with this update.. for what i get is that item i showed if you got a % one then you could not add it to a sale event now.. we need this one to get cleared up even mods are confused if you go back and read the posts..

 

along with m3/m4 not sure what is or if there was changes .. too many have said things that are not correct even myself said things and now i'm questioning it ... need Hazel to correct this ...the wording Mr.Debono has stated is ??? ...

[Tani_S 736]

 

 

Other changes

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Bulk discounts for buying items of the same type will be removed, and discounts will no longer apply to product kits. Additionally, bonus supplies will be removed from garage kits.

 

I think this is getting everyone more confused with this update.. for what i get is that item i showed if you got a % one then you could not add it to a sale event now.. we need this one to get cleared up even mods are confused if you go back and read the posts..

 

along with m3/m4 not sure what is or if there was changes .. too many have said things that are not correct even myself said things and now i'm questioning it ... need Hazel to correct this ...the wording Mr.Debono has stated is ??? ...

 

 

 

I am pretty sure about what was changed and what was not changed with this update regarding discounts:

1. Bulk discounts are removed. Like a Mod already explained, these are the discounts, that you get i.e. when you have many weapons on one modification level and that were implemented with this update here.
2. Randomly appearing personal discount are not removed.
3. Random personal discounts can still be combined with other sales on garage items (this is probably not applied for items within product kits). 
4. Bonus drugs, that you received till now when you buy a product kit, are removed.
5. All discounts on single items within a product kit are removed.
6. The product kit discount itself remains untouched (i.e. a 40 % discount on the sum of the items of a kit).

So in TO there are three types of discounts left: holiday sales, kit discounts and personal discounts.

 

About the other change: 

M0, M1, M2 and M3 weapons & hulls got buffed while M4 stayed unchanged = M4 got nerfed. Before the update M4 weapons were 18% or 19% stronger compared to M3, while after the update M4 are only around 13 % stronger.

Edited March 18, 2017 by Tani_S

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

I like this aspect of the update. It means you can MU all the way to M3 without paying twice, if you want to.

 

10 steps also means we can do math a little easier for our calculations.

 

They had to adjust M0, M1, M2 and M3s because the changes to M0, the M0 changes are designed to make the game simpler for new players.

Me too. I also like the aspect of this update. This re-balance update of micro upgrade steps must continue all the way to M3+ equipment as well, because 50 micro upgrade steps is too much. With only 10 steps players can micro upgrade their equipment five time faster. It also makes it easier to calculate as well. Also players don't have to waste so many crystals for micro upgrading their equipment. In the past, I have mentioned many times that, in general, micro upgrades are far too expensive, so their prices must be reduced to re-balance against player's spending against Tanki Online's economic system. There must be a perfect balance between player's spending with the economy of Tanki Online.

[BRO0088 1,724]

R.I.P

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

 

 

 

Interesting business policy towards your customers. When a customer must always deliberately to suffer inconveniences for the sake of the product.

 

[CooperO 7,956]

 

 

I am pretty sure about what was changed and what was not changed with this update regarding discounts:

1. Bulk discounts are removed. Like a Mod already explained, these are the discounts, that you get i.e. when you have many weapons on one modification level and that were implemented with this update here.
2. Randomly appearing personal discount are not removed.
3. Random personal discounts can still be combined with other sales on garage items (this is probably not applied for items within product kits). 
4. Bonus drugs, that you received till now when you buy a product kit, are removed.
5. All discounts on single items within a product kit are removed.
6. The product kit discount itself remains untouched (i.e. a 40 % discount on the sum of the items of a kit).

 

 

So in TO there are four types of discounts left: holiday sales, kit discounts, personal discounts and test drive discounts.

 

You are correct, except about the last part. There are no test drives anymore.

[nubyet 24]

I wonder what next weeks patch will screw.

Who else - us.

[Tani_S 736]

You are correct, except about the last part. There are no test drives anymore.

Oh thank you, I didn't know that or maybe forgot it. I'll edit my post.

 

It would be good tho, to clarify in my linked wiki page to the test drives, that they are not in the game anymore.

Edited March 18, 2017 by Tani_S