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You want others to suffer while you have a good time. That's not how online multiplayer games work, mate.

*cough* drugs *cough*

 

You have three options:

  • You don't. You change that mission and get an easier one.
  • You save up supplies and use them to complete the mission
  • You buy supplies with real money and become an "M4 drugger".
  • You keep playing games and hope that one of them won't have any hardcore druggers.

Also don't forget that you can complete that mission by being first in the losing team too, and it's quite easy to get first place especially when most players on your team leave.

1. So they might as well remove that mission,

2. Save up supplies to get supplies. What if we do not have supplies? What if our only supply income is the missions themselves? Then how do we get out of the loop?

3. I'm only a non-buyer on principle.

4. Good luck with that.

 

What it comes out to is that you are suggesting that if we do not have enough supplies to compete, we join the losing team.

Now THAT does NOT help balance.

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So this is how it ends.

First raise in rank and crystals to get first m3. if you are non buyer and you save like crazy with the current mission system you can just make enough crystals to buy one m3 kit when you reach the rank. 

and then you have to save again and two more rank ups to even get anything. and now u cant even do that after tomorrows update.

The way i see it with this update tanki developers want to create cattle for buyers so they can enjoy more and pay more. sick move. way to go tanki.  

Mates I am leaving the cattle. Baaa Baaa

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When people complained about the increase in "drug"er=winner problem in tanki, devs suggestion was always "play the no-drug pro battle". And even with 5000 crystal pro pass (it is not much, but it is not free. it means 3 days of playing for me, i play maybe 30-45 mins a day), I was happy with that. But I am seeing a distinct pattern in recent updates from Tanki.

1. Remove the 1000 drug kit and make people purchase it

2. make contests (often interesting) and to take part force people to play only drugged non-pro battles (christmas, current magnum contest...)

3. make the daily mission also a non-pro battle feature. this essentially will force me to often use more drugs than the reward crystal/drug.

 

I know tanki is not a charity, and devs need money. I am fine with it. All I want to say is that please, for God's sake, don't say you are trying to bring "balance" to the game by diminishing the role of drugs (as you ckaimed with those experiments in last few weekends), while, very consciously, making the role of drugs more prominent. -_-  

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This is me Today:

 

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This is me Tomorrow:

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Tomorrow, i'm get one shoted over and over by DD Hammer's and Rail's, Omg, i don't even wanna play anymore.   :unsure: 

 

Tomorrow, i'm gonna play in hell, and the worst part is that i'm not even used to Non Pro battles anymore, thanks to YOUR Update about removing free battle creation system, i got soft, i'm only used to play non drug and non MU battles, now i'm get Burned alive.  :wacko: 

 

Thanks a lot !  :ph34r: 

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The reason is obvious. You need to finish first, so simply create a 1 flag battle on Island. Mission accomplished with no effort. It's full of battles like this.

Missions are not meant to be easy. Especially if there is such a big reward as XT item.

Then there's the opposite.

 

We end up spending more supplies to accomplish the mission in a drug-battle than we get as a reward for completing. Ridiculous.

 

Many of us buy Pro-passes because we prefer to play without supplies. That includes completing missions. This ruins that.

What's the point of a Pro-pass then?

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No, there are no refunds.

why aren't there any refunds? Why can't people who have M4 at least get a protection module or something like that? A lot of crystals going into making an M3, an M4... Like can we please have some sort of compensation? 

 

Unless the price is the same and the only thing you are changing is the number of steps...

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They didn't penalise players. Heck, they INCREASED the rewards by 10%. They just made it so that missions have to be completed in proper battles, rather than "farmed" in PRO 1v1s.

 

If the system was introduced like this originally, there wouldn't be any complaints. So you can consider the fact that we could cheat the system as a "privilege" that developers gave up, but they are now removing it because it ruined the missions feature.

 

It was fun while it lasted. Let's get over it and move on.

Dear Maf
 
The only think ruined here is the game. Devs removed PRO daily mission to milk out players forced to use more drugs.
 
And what you called "privilege" was paid by PRO pass.
 
It was fun while it lasted .... is it really the "explanation" for this disaster???
 
You will see the consequences of this update. I believe players cannot be so dumb to follow it!
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Do you think once or twice before releasing these updates?

Everything was great until I heard the news about daily missions? What do we do with super missions? It will be EXTREMELY hard to finish them in non pro battles.. For players like me that only play PRO battles .

 

I really liked the update about the MU thing..

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Bad Missions change, it'll be bad for players and Tanki itself. They need to reverse it and then come up with better solutions. (I posted some)

 

Meanwhile I invite non drugger players to find me at EN7 if EN3 becomes too difficult (low mid ranks).

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I suppose "abuse" is the wrong word for it. It's more of an exploit. Players found a way to use the system not the way it was intended to be used and ended up getting big rewards with very little effort. Devs didn't like it, so now they adjusted the system to force players to use it properly.

The pro-battle system is not optimum either, who need to create 1 minute battle (or 23 minutes instead of 25 ?) or one flag? Can't we have incremental of 5 minutes, that would be faster to select and start flags from 3.

 

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Tanki probably noted that they do not make enough money and said: "Lets milk more from these dumb players ... they will pay, and pay, and pay"

 

Tanki makes only few million dollars a year ... poor guys ... how can we take their soups off the table ... we should pay at least 200 dollars a month each!!

 

.... players, don't you think so?

 

(ironical, for who didn't get it)

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 Daily Mission objectives will only be achievable in non-PRO battles.


All I got to say is what the hell is this Crap -_- you don't care about any xp/bp players this is a waste of many peoples time. Supermissions are almost impossible to acheive.Battles for higher ranking players are dominated by Pro- Battles.


 


Bad Change 


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It was pretty major. Enough people were doing it to a point where it made daily missions pointless. So this update turns "missions" into actual missions that are challenging to complete, but also give a worthwhile reward. Because right now for most players daily missions are just easy money.

So the frequently occurring missions of earn 1000 exp in TDM, CTF or DM are easy missions?  Finding TDM battles at this rank is a chore in itself and when they can be found it is mostly 2 teams of shafts playing hide and seek.

 

How are these achievable in non pro battles when at peak times there are barely any non pro battles present?  This is not even taking into account that these battles which meet your mission criteria are unlikely to be available.

 

This is going to majorly affect our chances of getting our weekly bonuses for mission completion.

 

Never mind - I bet Tanki can 'randomly' offer me rewards of more speed boxes to go with the 10k+ that I already have.

 

How about introducing some kind of supply exchange system ... i.e exchange 1k speed boxes for 750 damages?  Not gonna happen though

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why aren't there any refunds? Why can't people who have M4 at least get a protection module or something like that? A lot of crystals going into making an M3, an M4... Like can we please have some sort of compensation? 

 

Unless the price is the same and the only thing you are changing is the number of steps...

The price is the exact same.

 

If they reduced the price for an M4, then yes, it would be quite unfair to M4 players. But the price remains the same.

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The pro-battle system is not optimum either, who need to create 1 minute battle (or 23 minutes instead of 25 ?) or one flag? Can't we have incremental of 5 minutes, that would be faster to select and start flags from 3.

 

I agree.

 

We need the incremental 5 minute battle creation. I hate clicking many times to go from 30 to 15.

 

1 Flag battle is okay, but they need to eliminate missions like Finish 1st and Capture Flags.

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Buyers = Hunters

Non-Buyers = Cattle

 

Devs are creating more suitable environment for buyers so they could enjoy more and of course pay more. 

Cattle have no right of objection.

Devs have families too. They need to feed them. This game is not a chariy. Want to Win. Pay up.

If you don't want to be a cattle, get out. Baaa

 

Hack: Don't have money but still want to play (AND ENJOY) tanki. Sale your kidney. There are two of them.. remember 

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But - fewer speed-ups needed right?  With fewer steps you may not need to resort to speedups so much.

I only care about the total cost. Most of us normally do upgrades on a sale -50% MU and -75% speed ups. But even on sale is too expensive to upgrade to M4, while you can be a noob account and upgrade to M3 on the cheap.

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Yes, but have you played against M4 tanks with M0 equipment and no supplies? I strongly recommend you try that and THEN think about what you're suggesting here. You want others to suffer while you have a good time. That's not how online multiplayer games work, mate.

 

This update already affects M3+ equipment.

Really. That's good.

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I only care about the total cost. Most of us normally do upgrades on a sale -50% MU and -75% speed ups. But even on sale is too expensive to upgrade to M4, while you can be a noob account and upgrade to M3 on the cheap.

But the noob M3 will then have to upgrade to M4 and he'll be in the same situation as the other M4.

 

What is the problem again?

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Yes, but have you played against M4 tanks with M0 equipment and no supplies? I strongly recommend you try that and THEN think about what you're suggesting here. You want others to suffer while you have a good time. That's not how online multiplayer games work, mate.

 

This update already affects M3+ equipment.

Yes. In the past, I used to play with M0 against M3 or M4. I know how that feels. I do not want anyone to suffer in Tanki Online at all. I just want some possibility on winning. However, it is legal to play with an M4 against M0.

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I only care about the total cost. Most of us normally do upgrades on a sale -50% MU and -75% speed ups. But even on sale is too expensive to upgrade to M4, while you can be a noob account and upgrade to M3 on the cheap.

No, it's fine, actually. If they reduced the price for M4s it would be completely unfair to players that spent over a million to get to M4 before.

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You have three options:

  • You don't. You change that mission and get an easier one.
  • You save up supplies and use them to complete the mission
  • You buy supplies with real money and become an "M4 drugger".
  • You keep playing games and hope that one of them won't have any hardcore druggers.

Also don't forget that you can complete that mission by being first in the losing team too, and it's quite easy to get first place especially when most players on your team leave.

 

This is the worst nonsense I ever heard!!
 
The message is:
 
- If the mission is hard, change it (and drug to finish it)
- Drug to finish the mission
- Spend real money to become a drugger to drug to finish mission
- Or, poor dumb silly player, keep on playing hoping that no drugger will come to devastate you
 
 
The only common thing in these nonsenses is:
 
DRUG, PAY TO BUY DRUGS AND DRUG MORE
 
The only way to play this "supposed to be" FREE TO PLAY game is SPENDING MONEY and DRUG
 
 
Wow, Tanki ... just WOW
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Well this game has been going downhill for a long time anyway, this is no surprise..... To be honest they plan all of these stupid updates months in advance to make money and to make progressing in the game difficult

 

First you force us to buy a PRO pass to create battles, then you try to do these supply experiments (future updates to nerf the game) Then you make this update, forcing us to complete our missions in Non PRO pass battles

 

But to balance that out soon these "supply experiments" will become permanent so completing missions in Non PRO pass battles isn't even more difficult due to the druggers

 

THE ENTIRE POINT OF DAILY MISSIONS IS TO FORCE YOU TO PLAY EVERYDAY!! SO THEY CAN MAKE MORE MONEY!!

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