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On EN1 19 people got banned for flood for protesting against the mission update! Listen to them!

... It IS censorship, and I am ticked off. I don't think that I will be coming back regardless of what they do with this update.

Flooding is banned for a reason - It blocks the chat from being used what it's meant for.

Those flooders block the chat for all other players that might like to talk to their friends; so what happened was no censorship but just something to make the chat work again and to remind the players of the rules..

 

Criticism is best placed right here in this section, as the dev's read here.

 

If someone writes a negative post here, and it's mature and non-insulting while still direct and on the point > and it get's hidden > then you can talk about censorship.

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 they will dont care

 

Just see what Mafioso said:   http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353862&do=findComment&comment=6070467

Let me show you what their mods told me about starting only our group about bad updates in a game:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353922&hl=

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353817&hl=

And let's imagine what i got in personal inbox. For sure is, they wont listen to us although they say yes...its just so it can looks as democraty.

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ok well if you going to complain .. then explain why its bad don't just say remove it .. he needs to know what you don't like about it ..

 

all i can see from a player who seldom battles in pro battles , the only thing you get there is the bonus of extra crystals on missions .. is this why your complaining when we also now get a 10% increase on weekly missions ..

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You all talk about the Daily Missions, But the big problem here is that tanki just increased twice the price on speed-up.

Before this update, upgrading a turret in the game with speed-up cost around 1.5M - 1M the steps and 0.5M the speed-up.

Now it's goes to 2.5M - 3M for a turret.

 

Pesonally i have all garage M4, but this make no sense to do something like that and say "hi! we just reduced the steps!"

But the truth behind it is so misleading.

 

Daily missions, as i said earlier in this topic - the ironic that pro battle card holder can't open regular battles.

 

Every day RU1 is dying slowly by server's lags, Vulcan bug that stop shooting suddenly still not fixed,

Battles with no micro upgrade still shows micro, Striker - 4 months in the game and still no alterations.

 

Biggest 1 April's joke ever.

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The DM change has pretty much ended my interest in playing Tanki, and so I guess you won't be hearing from me and my 18 accounts much any more.  :(   

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it must be an account of some staff member who don't have courage to come with his original account

Ha ha ha ha. Check my history.

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The DM change has pretty much ended my interest in playing Tanki, and so I guess you won't be hearing from me and my 18 accounts much any more.  :(   

Same. I am just too frustrated to play anymore. I now enjoy playing world of tanks blitz far more.

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I'm truly nosy about tomorrow's vLog.

I guess we get an explanation on the reasons behind this very disliked mission update.. and I wonder if the reason will be "because solving missions in pro battles was abused all the time".

 

It's always tough to force players into playing game modes that they do not like.

 

IMHO the better solution would have been to make the mission completion a little bit more tricky.

Check the spoiler for examples.

 

 

 

be first in battle

easy workaround for players: pro battle 1vs1

cancel easy workaround: "be first in battle - while there are at least 3 players per team"

 

cap 3 flags

easy workaround for players: pro battle 1vs1

cancel easy workaround: "cap 3 flags - while there are at least 4 players per team during each of the caps"

 

boxes and more boxes

easy workaround for players: pro battle 1vs1

cancel easy workaround: "collect 3 speed boost boxes. Each box counts only if you score 200 points / box in that same battle you've collected them"

 

kill 50 tanks

no usefull workaround to get it done in 3 minutes..

 

earn 300xp in CTF / CP / DMmode

no usefull workaround to get it done in 3 minutes..

 

...

 

 

 

but maybe the reason was completely different anyways.

Thats pretty nice, except certain things are outside of my control " Each box counts only if you score 200 points / box in that same battle you've collected them""

What about all those people who score less than 200 points per match? 

 

"while there are at least 4 players per team during each of the caps"

I'd make it so that the map had to allow 8(e.g.)  people in the room, instead of penalising people if players don't join, or leave for whatever reason. I think your proposition is OK in theory, but I think the details will enrage people just as much as they are now.

And remember, I'm a secret coward dev who don't know squat about this game.

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Let me show you what their mods told me about starting only our group about bad updates in a game:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353922&hl=

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353817&hl=

And let's imagine what i got in personal inbox. For sure is, they wont listen to us although they say yes...its just so it can looks as democraty.

TBH, just start a freakin' conversation club about your little petty syndicate. The moderators can do what they want, but they will be judged, just like you.

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Look, mod Maf said he didnt like the change but WHY THE HELL HE THEN SUPPORT THOSE DEVELOPERS AND TRY TO STOP US PLAYERS???? P.S. Tanki community bot fahad_the_GREAT...got sandviches and coca-cola, happy now?

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Thats pretty nice, except certain things are outside of my control " Each box counts only if you score 200 points / box in that same battle you've collected them""

What about all those people who score less than 200 points per match? 

 

"while there are at least 4 players per team during each of the caps"

I'd make it so that the map had to allow 8(e.g.)  people in the room, instead of penalising people if players don't join, or leave for whatever reason. I think your proposition is OK in theory, but I think the details will enrage people just as much as they are now.

And remember, I'm a secret coward dev who don't know squat about this game.

If you have doubts that the 200/box points margin is too high; then it's maybe because of your rank.

We could have the point limit adaptable by the rank of the player; this would make sense.

 

I actually can't imagine issues to find battles with 5..6 people per team, in order to fullfill the "cap flags when both teams are at least 4" criteria.

 

Please remember that it is called "mission" not "free gift".

So you have to do something for it. The closer the missions come to your personal preferences of game mode and gameplay, the more fun you will have there (fun is key to liking the game). But it's still something you have to "do". It's not like playing ClashOC by clicking on the goldmines once a day.

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TBH, just start a freakin' conversation club about your little petty syndicate. The moderators can do what they want, but they will be judged, just like you.

Yes, its not my group and you are not a random player, you are a mod from low acocunt and came here to try make a civil war betveen us players. <----Look ppl, another tanki community bot that got free sandviches and coca-cola.

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If you have doubts that the 200/box points margin is too high; then it's maybe because of your rank.

We could have the point limit adaptable by the rank of the player; this would make sense.

 

I actually can't imagine issues to find battles with 5..6 people per team, in order to fullfill the "cap flags when both teams are at least 4" criteria.

 

Please remember that it is called "mission" not "free gift".

So you have to do something for it. The closer the missions come to your personal preferences of game mode and gameplay, the more fun you will have there (fun is key to liking the game). But it's still something you have to "do". It's not like playing ClashOC by clicking on the goldmines once a day.

Yea this should have been done per rank levels .. maybe next time he might look into this .. and for the lower ranks yea it is harder to battle with your own ranks , due to lack of players on line some days and then we are loosing players in lower ranks cause they find it harder to battle against higher ranks .. these things need to be adjusted again to suit ranks ..

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Yea this should have been done per rank levels .. maybe next time he might look into this .. and for the lower ranks yea it is harder to battle with your own ranks , due to lack of players on line some days and then we are loosing players in lower ranks cause they find it harder to battle against higher ranks .. these things need to be adjusted again to suit ranks ..

 

If you have doubts that the 200/box points margin is too high; then it's maybe because of your rank.

We could have the point limit adaptable by the rank of the player; this would make sense.

 

I actually can't imagine issues to find battles with 5..6 people per team, in order to fullfill the "cap flags when both teams are at least 4" criteria.

 

Please remember that it is called "mission" not "free gift".

So you have to do something for it. The closer the missions come to your personal preferences of game mode and gameplay, the more fun you will have there (fun is key to liking the game). But it's still something you have to "do". It's not like playing ClashOC by clicking on the goldmines once a day.

You can not forget, that they took away our free gifts and replaced them with missions. If I get on to do my missions, I want to 1: have fun doing so, and 2: complete my chain. I can not complete my chain if it takes a long time every single day, because I cant play 45 minutes to pick up 5 freaking DD boxes in a noob battle. The old mission system was absolutely not broken. 

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Flooding is banned for a reason - It blocks the chat from being used what it's meant for.

Those flooders block the chat for all other players that might like to talk to their friends; so what happened was no censorship but just something to make the chat work again and to remind the players of the rules..

Except for the fact the one player got banned for typing one message of "RemoveMissionUpdateRemoveMissionUpdate"

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You can not forget, that they took away our free gifts and replaced them with missions. If I get on to do my missions, I want to 1: have fun doing so, and 2: complete my chain. I can not complete my chain if it takes a long time every single day, because I cant play 45 minutes to pick up 5 freaking DD boxes in a noob battle. The old mission system was absolutely not broken. 

TO is not TDP4. All you have to do in TDP4 is login every day and collect $$$. That is what I do with 3 accounts, day in and day out, for the past 9 months. TDP4 sucks big donkeys also, just ask anyone who played in 2011 and is playing now. I highly dissaprove of free gifts. I think the current free gifts are sheet of the bull, but I really don't think too much about it. I like having to work for my missions, even if it is just 5 minutes. The multing problem would be off the charts if people were given a free 1000k crystals a day on avg. Imagine fighting my alt account brohomie, which is 6 months old. I would have kits and fully upgraded m1+s to reckt your hide, and when the advantage ended, I would just wait for a nother few months. Tanki does not want to end up like TDP4.

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If I get on to do my missions, I want to 1: have fun doing so, and 2: complete my chain. I can not complete my chain if it takes a long time every single day, because I cant play 45 minutes to pick up 5 freaking DD boxes in a noob battle.

absolutely

 

The whole point of missions and mission chains is to get the players to play every day for a certain time. [...] Of course 2h per day are too much.. while 5 minutes per day are a fail too. Maybe 15min per day/mission are perfectly fine.

I'm with you, that the amount of time must be "ok", and that 45 minutes are way to long for a single mission. Maybe I have no time on one day and can barely squeeze in some 15 min to keep my chain up (else the chains have no use any more).

 

If the missions are designed in a way, that in 15 minutes of gameplay you could complete one mission and almost complete another (like cap 2/3 flag + get 3/3 boxes) it's perfectly ok for your chain today and makes it easier on your chain tomorrow. This would be a great deal.

 

But.. I am not the designer, I'm just a player like you ;)

 

 

I think..

..missions should be a _reason_ to come here on a regular base and to spend time here, having fun while doing so.

You should be able to complete at least 1 mission per day withing 15 min of gameplay. There could be a bonus for free players that like to invest more time (free players pay the game with their free time) by doing more missions.

Missions should not feel like a daily chore that makes me feel like work.. because then the players will sooner or later quit the game.

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The DM change has pretty much ended my interest in playing Tanki, and so I guess you won't be hearing from me and my 18 accounts much any more.  :(   

I was looking forward to buying Magnum for one of my accounts.  Oh well.  Did save me from having to buy another round of Pro Passes, though.  I'll check back from time to time to see if you've changed your mind.  There'll be no TankiX for me either.  

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Let me show you what their mods told me about starting only our group about bad updates in a game:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353922&hl=

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=353817&hl=

And let's imagine what i got in personal inbox. For sure is, they wont listen to us although they say yes...its just so it can looks as democraty.

All I see in these topics is useless flood. Say what you have to say in this topic and make it clear and understandable. The devs can change what they want. 

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You can not forget, that they took away our free gifts and replaced them with missions. If I get on to do my missions, I want to 1: have fun doing so, and 2: complete my chain. I can not complete my chain if it takes a long time every single day, because I cant play 45 minutes to pick up 5 freaking DD boxes in a noob battle. The old mission system was absolutely not broken. 

well missions where only changed from free daily's which they had originally thought players were logging in to battle which back fired on them and found all we had to do back then was log in and out daily to gain them.. ok well for DD box's or any drug there are players who go and do this in battles some only need to battle in a 15 min game .. the new thing to be coming back again will be drug camping just to get missions done. been here before and saw this coming a mile away .. this is why players use to be able to go to pro missions so we never seen them as much..

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