Patch Update #451

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=352677&p=6062987

 

Hhhhh

 

Buyers AND non-buyers hate this mission update. The MU update idc anymore, not bothered to spend on this except for probs a nick change or a special paint bundle.

In other word they don't care about buyers or non buyers they just care about there pockets.

 

when they don't add update there were more player and when they started adding new update for so called "benefit of game " they start losing players

[ireland_tanker 375]

the point of missions at the end of the day was to give players a sense of accomplishment so theyv would return daily to complete them to get a reward what dev is stupid enough to make players play battles as said before in a format they dont want!? you made this update to improve the number of players playing on a regular basis now you ruin it

[5HADOW 249]

the point of missions at the end of the day was to give players a sense of accomplishment so theyv would return daily to complete them to get a reward what dev is stupid enough to make players play battles as said before in a format they dont want!? you made this update to improve the number of players playing on a regular basis now you ruin it

agreed. ever since the mission update i've slowly been losing motivation to continue playing.

[ShipuBmm 300]

What happened after all these protest? Nothing changed, just wasted time and Big failed. Tanki used to listen to us (the players and change the update if we don't like it) but look at now..No one even cares (all the care is earning money using us). They made a fool out of us. So much changed in this game now WOW. We are thrown away  off from the top roof guys   :angry:

Edited April 1, 2017 by ShipuBmm

[bozo88 450]

What happened after all these protest? Nothing changed, just wasted time and Big failed. Tanki used to listen to us (the players and change the update if we don't like it) but look at now..No one even cares (all the care is earning money using us). They made a fool out of us. So much changed in this game now WOW. We are thrown away  off from the top roof guys   :angry:

Congrats, you've given em 48 hours.

[Baby_Sam 614]

I don't think that TO wants to make the players miserable despite the fact that they never fail to do that with every update.

 

If you want to do something and you always do the contrary time and again, there are words in all languages to describe you. Some are offensive and some are less offensive, but they all have the same meaning.

 

Enjoy!

[VaudeVille 1,428]

Nope, V-log proved you wrong. I daresay everyone wanted to believe you but Tanki always misses expectations. <_<

I don't know why haven't they broken their silence on this issue yet

[CooperO 7,956]

Now it's harder than ever to get equipement M4

 

Developers say today in the V-log this:

 

 

 

Seriously?, Where?

 

 

Please somebody tell me, where???

 

 

At first I also thought they were comparing the mu price prior to the update to how they are now. I was wrong. In the VLOG, they mean that the step price is lower that when there would be only 10 steps like with m0, m1 and m2. Basically they are explaining why they chose to have 20 instead of 10 steps on m3s.

[MentallyDeranged 740]

Now it's harder than ever to get equipement M4

 

Developers say today in the V-log this:

 

 

 

Seriously?, Where?

 

 

Please somebody tell me, where???

 

 

I think developers are sick right now ...

 

Update: Or they drank ...

[MentallyDeranged 740]

Oh how it could be if it was Tanki online 2013-2014 -_-

[Akame 4,578]

Well i plan to start playing back after the 23rd april maybe, if tanki doesnt make changes, it can wave goodbye to my money and im sure im not the only one in this position

#ENDSOON

[Mickey_Nickz 589]

LoL more disappointments are coming our way... brace yourselves!! #winteriscoming 

[D.a.n.t.e 475]

Yes maybe they say that but this does not affect them anymore, they actually have equipement M4, nevertheless to the others who still dont have M4, even M0, M1, and M2 who someday will arrive to M3, it of course affect them.

If you wanna do it faster by using Speed Ups. I think the fact that it is twice as expensive will prevent many form become M4 fast and that brings more balance for everybody.

 

The big problem I see is the rank of Legend, it needs to break up into more ranks to prevent many M4s fighting against M3s and M2s because of longer rank brackets.

[MentallyDeranged 740]

If you wanna do it faster by using Speed Ups. I think the fact that it is twice as expensive will prevent many form become M4 fast and that brings more balance for everybody.

 

The big problem I see is the rank of Legend, it needs to break up into more ranks to prevent many M4s fighting against M3s and M2s because of longer rank brackets.

Divide ranks according to modification stats of players o.O

 

In some angles of view its good but in some not .

 

For example micro upgrades come to get an advantage over enemies in same rank ,so if they divide it will be like xp/bp version 2 .

 

Hope I understand what you meant in real :D

Edited April 1, 2017 by MentallyDeranged

[D.a.n.t.e 475]

Divide ranks according to modification stats of players o.O

 

In some angles of view its good but in some not .

 

For example micro upgrades come to get an advantage over enemies in same rank ,so if they divide it will be like xp/bp version 2 .

 

Hope I understand what you meant in real :D

I'm not saying based on modification, because some upgrade slow and others fast.

 

I'm saying like Legend becoming new Legend 1, Legend 2 and 3 becoming new Legend 2, Legend 4 to 7 becoming new Legend 3, and so on up to new Legend 5.

 

That will help prevent M4s from fighting against M2s in regular battles because of the longer rank brackets. Which they should shorten by the way.

 

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The mission update shouldn't be removed, only fixed, because it solves many abuse issues.

 

What Tanki needs to do is prevent drug abuse in regular battles.

[misafeco 713]

Now I can play my 250 kills mission in regular battles. For 50 DA. Thank you, Tanki!  :angry: 2 hours of struggling against other druggers, before I can have fun.

[mrhoho4 4]

All it takes is for one ranked Legend player to create a battle on the server, and all the players with ranks Major through Marshall can't have nice things anymore.

I called it, now there are legends on every server ... good job guys, this update takes the cake. I hope those players with ranks of captain through major general will enjoy getting their teeth kicked in, because they can't even buy m3 turrets to fight on par with legends.

[VaudeVille 1,428]

70 pages of protest, @ the cons of this update heavily outweigh its pros.

How does someone as smart as you not realise all the drawbacks of this update?

Could you kindly come up with a better explanation?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

The question that I have, is if Tanki would accept proposals for missions that can not be abused that easily, but still draw the players in frequently.

Edited April 1, 2017 by BlackWasp777

[misafeco 713]

The question that I have, is if Tanki would accept proposals for missions that can not be abused that easily, but still draw the players in frequently.

Every system can be abused. Just remove every mission except XP missions if you don't want to give players easy crystals. But forcing them to play drug allowed battles is a crime. I play to have fun. No fun = goodbye Tanki.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Every system can be abused. Just remove every mission except XP missions if you don't want to give players easy crystals.

You are right, but that argument would lead to a shutdown of everything you know :p

 

It's not about "can be abused" it's more about "how hard is it, to abuse something, and is the effort of abusing it bigger, then the effort of just doing it the right way".

 

 

 

Another thing:

in the past we had daily gifts, and the income from them was part of our weekly crystal income.

Now the missions are here, but .. not loved at the moment ;)  So will we get a free gift again if we don't do a misssion and still log in? :)

If not, will we get a higher battle reward?

 

Because if not, it's kind of inbalanced.

[misafeco 713]

In this regard this update cons doesn't outweigh the pros. On the contrary this update does work as intended. As there is no intent on my side to encourage players to take part in custom games (which are pro-battles at the moment) to the detriment of normal games. The only reason to play custom games in the future will be the urge for new experience, as these days it is mostly wasp+firebird (you can argue it is not, but I got the numbers).

But players want to play in those battle, and don't want to play in regular "drug-war" battles.

 

Also what about the rank bracket increase? What is the purpose of that?

[misafeco 713]

You are right, but that argument would lead to a shutdown of everything you know :P

 

It's not about "can be abused" it's more about "how hard is it, to abuse something, and is the effort of abusing it bigger, then the effort of just doing it the right way".

 

 

 

Another thing:

in the past we had daily gifts, and the income from them was part of our weekly crystal income.

Now the missions are here, but .. not loved at the moment ;)  So will we get a free gift again if we don't do a misssion and still log in? :)

If not, will we get a higher battle reward?

 

Because if not, it's kind of inbalanced.

I just don't understand how is making kills in no-drug Poly CP 8v8 or Sandbox CTF 4v4 is an abuse, and creating a TDM with the battle button on RU2132 and collecting boxes with 2 of your accounts is not.

[Bydo 20,121]

My explanations generally takes lots of time and usually there are not that many people to agree with me. This is why anything you can see in VLOG sounds like bollocks :) Have to cut longer explanations to shorter ones.

 

And I tend not to take part in hellstorm discussions during updates as they are not discussions at all. Emotions, most of the time. My job is not to convince people of anything, this is why my involvement is almost pointless. Most of the time I discuss only upcoming changes otherwise the only thing I achieve is making people more angry. Which is what will probably happen after this comment but oh well.

 

Tanki Online is changing. Modern concepts of convenient gameplay experience demand matchmaking system. It is proven concept and work quite good for new generation of games. Tanki Online stuck in the past in this regard. But moving overnight from current battle list to MM won't be easy and will require some adaptation.

 

The closest case to Tanki Online is Team Fortress in regards of matchmaking update. Previously TF was almost like TO with server list, but they changed it around a year ago. That wasn't easy but it was worth it in the end. Though TF did not removed server list (battle list in regard to TO) entirely. What they did they left it as a custom game option.

 

This is where Tanki Online is going as well.

 

Eventually we will introduce Matchmaking system that will handle rank difference and battle creation just as easy as in Team Fortress or Overwatch. By the push of a button. Current battle list will move to custom game option. You can say that battle list will be only available via pro-battles (they might be free of charge in this case) and will be highly customizable.

 

In this regard this update cons doesn't outweigh the pros. On the contrary this update does work as intended. As there is no intent on my side to encourage players to take part in custom games (which are pro-battles at the moment) to the detriment of normal games. The only reason to play custom games in the future will be the urge for new experience, as these days it is mostly wasp+firebird (you can argue it is not, but I got the numbers).

 

Team Fortress and Overwatch might give you a sneak peek on how this system will work in Tanki Online when implemented. Quick and easy matchmaking is supported by highly customizable custom game list. There is interesting moment to OW as they removed experience gain in custom games shortly after they introduced that option to the game as players quickly found a way to grind EXP with minimal effort by certain game options. Something for you to think about.

 

I believe it might be worth arguing whether we should or shouldn't change the game at all, but this will not work for Tanki as it works for other games there are. This game going to reach 8 years in action this year. Most games update their system by releasing new version and forcing players to migrate to new versions starting from scratch. A bad idea for Tanki Online as we can see it with at least Tanki X's case.

 

Choosing between forcing everybody to grind through the game all over again and forcing to deal with non-easy updates I choose the latter.

Wow when Tanki X just started ti just  this week ..so this will start to happen in less then a month guys ( my prediction ) .. I have been seeing a trend what happens in tanki X seems to happen here .. just check out there video they put out this week..http://en.forum.tankix.com/topic/2982-developers-diary-25/  This will help players who are not aware of how it works.. if you don't like the new way tanki is going then just join tanki X and learn it from a new game point of view but still retain some of the old tanki system but with a twist of better graphics and maps .. way too much to list..

Edited April 1, 2017 by Bydo

[Hex 11,520]

please give it a rest , i have done it many a times .. for the other issues that they guys have been posting yea i do agree with them ..

 

Also it is hard now when there is no battles to go into mainly DM . search all of Russian and even English , I also noticed this earlier today less battles .. I wonder why ???

I have completed three supermissions already, but that was when format battles stats counted in their kills/experience. I got so much exp and kills and Poly CP XP/BP but now its hard :3