Patch Update #451

[Pink_Legacy 269]

I have been thinking about missions and their effect on the game for a while now, but until now I haven't had time to sit down, organise my thoughts, and write something that might or might not make sense.

 

First of all, let me explain why we need a new system for missions. The reason is very simple. Just as they are, missions encourage selfish behaviour that is detrimental for the team and often is close to sabotage if not outright sabotage.

 

For instance, missions that ask to collect boxes, encourage players to take supply boxes before a teammate who obviously needs them more or could do a better use of them (e.g. if there is a teammate coming to the same box with full health and I've got only 5% of my health bar, she'll make a better use of it that I). Missions that ask you to finish first, encourage people to mess with their teammates, especially those who are on top of the list. I can't count the number of times that I've been first on the list and other players from my own team tried to flip me, block my way, or put me right in front of enemy fire. Missions that ask you to capture flags, again, encourage people to block the flag carrier's way, flip her and all that. Many times, I find that in CTF mode my own team makes it more difficult for me to capture the flag that the enemy team.

 

So I have come with an idea for a different system.

 

Basically, every player will get three missions every day, these missions are:

Earn experience in battles (250)

Earn experience in battles (500)

Earn experience in battles (1,000)

 

This way, you will be rewarded simply by playing the game. You can play the modes you like, the maps you like, and the roles you like. No more having to capture flags if you feel more comfortable as a defender or prefer CP. Also, it will allow casual players to complete at least one mission relatively easily, while letting more dedicated players get more rewards.

 

These missions will be renewed every day, which means that if you earn 347xp any one day, the next one you can't simply earn 153xp more and get the reward for the second mission, you will have to start it all over again.

 

What happens with super missions?

Another good outcome of this system is that we do away with stupid missions that ask you to kill 9999 tanks in order to get a turret or hull that is not better than the normal version and costs more crystals to upgrade.

 

If super missions should be kept, then the third mission can be replaced with a super mission that will stay until the player changes it or completes it (that is, it will not be reset on the next day).

[Heles 9,220]

-_- daily missions

[Hajduk_Split 418]

Becuse of this stupid update now I only play mission.  I play three missions and leave one for each day, and then I dont play anymore Tanki online two days, yet I take playstation and play other games. Thank you for this developers.

 

With these update and similar, the developers have managed to banish half the population Tanki players, but how much will manage to attract to their beloved Tanki X we will see. But with such an approach to the players, I think not a lot.

Edited April 5, 2017 by Hajduk_Split

[LiveInn 160]

Since the last update the missions must be done in regular battles.
I am an honest player, don't like druggames and was VERY pleased with the drugfree battles possible with Pro Pass.
But now I can't do my missions in a Pro Battle any more
Doing my mission isn't fun any more.
I play for like 4 years now and I'm seriously thinking about leaving because of this change............................
I sincere ask you to return your decision about doing missions in regular battles. 

[deadmanrising 715]

First, you take away our ability to create normal battles (without paying), then you take away our ability to complete our missions in the only battles that we can create!  

 

On top of that, I just got finished MU'ing my turret to m4 over a long period of time for a total of about 1,000,000 (that's right 1M) crystals .... now you want to let everyone do it for the same price as an upgrade?   (give me my crystals back!) 

 

What a bunch of fools you are!   Are you purposefully TRYING to kill off this game?    

Not as much as those who spent millions upgrading their other turrets/hulls, and i thought the price of micro upgrades would remain more or less the same per price of upgrades, now that it is cheaper they've basically robbed those players of crystals that they could have saved (although they would too be at a disadvantage if they had not spent those crystals at that time because of the balance of the game at the time), however these new changes have made it cheaper for players who have not yet being able to fully upgrade more than one turret/hull, at least assuming the majority of those above marshal have at least one m4, it would give those players a chance to compete

 

At the same time, had this change been brought about sooner, everyone would have at least on average 2 fully upgraded turrets or more for their MU class, that would have been devastating in terms of balance and productivity.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Tanki doesn't care a bit what goes on in the game as long as they have a chance of collecting a bit more money from players.

 

"Madness" if very appropriate.

But - but - the many many many complaints (I laughed typing that) about cheaters doing island 1 vs 1....

 

Apparently there are way more complaints about people finishing their missions without playing proper games. Who are these "mystery" complainers and why do they care. And why do they have so much influence?   :blink:

 

It's not as if tankers are now going into Regular battles and just collecting supply boxes and ignoring the actual battle.

 

Oh wait...   :ph34r:

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Pro battles being replaced with Non-Pro battles, nobody gonna buy Pro Pass now.. Hazel do something again to force players to buy Pro Pass :)

[r_sg971 163]

Hello

 

I had some ideas that might get all of us get missions done quickly in non-pro battles, since they can no longer be done in pro battles.

 

I will not tell you how much I hate this update, but will instead focus on what we all can do to help each other and save precious time and supplies, which can be used elsewhere : 

 

 

Now tanki gives us 5 kinds of missions. Lets discuss each of them individually:

 

1. Finish first in a battle

 

Solution: Tanki has 8 EN servers, and 22 RU servers.

I suggest we reserve servers RU15 to RU22 for missions of this type.

Now usually there are 4 vs 4 team matches in these servers.

 

Here is my proposition:

Say I'm in blue team and there are 3 others in my team, and 3 in red team.

I call out in battle chat that I need to finish first.

The remaining people in blue team leave.

Its 3 vs 1.

Tanki will detect that teams are unbalanced, and battle timer will start.

Battle ends within 1 minute, and I get my mission done.

 

If you really want to enjoy your CTF game, then play in one of the EN servers, or RU1 to RU14.

So nobody is hurt.

 

 

2. Capture flags

 

Again, we call out in chat who needs flag, and nobody stops him or shoots him.

In an orderly manner, we can get job done quickly.

Again, only for servers RU15 to RU22.

We dont want to do it on EN1 as some people might actually be enjoying a CTF game there, and our being mults may not be a good experience for them.

 

3. Collect Boxes

 

These can also be done easily on the servers I mentioned.

 

I will not comment about gold box missions. I always swap it away.

 

4. Destroy enemies 

    Earn experience in a battle mode

 

For this I suggest you remain on the EN servers or RU1 to RU14.

It will take longer, but please don't come to a 1 vs 1 battle and ask somebody to let you kill them 80 times.

 

5. Capture points

 

Again we can do this sequentially on RU15 to RU22

No killing, we take points one by one.

 

 

Thats it from me.

I hope we all cooperate on this, and get the missions done quickly like before, and spend more time on game formats that we enjoy more (polygon, noise, xp/bp, rio ctf, madness, monte carlo etc.)

 

Please spread the word!

 

PS: I'm still a bit new to the forum.

It would be great if somebody could maybe create a separate topic for this, and pin it on top.

It might be a good idea to post a link to this in battle chats on all servers from time to time.

[misafeco 713]

 

Hello

 

I had some ideas that might get all of us get missions done quickly in non-pro battles, since they can no longer be done in pro battles.

 

I will not tell you how much I hate this update, but will instead focus on what we all can do to help each other and save precious time and supplies, which can be used elsewhere : 

 

 

Now tanki gives us 5 kinds of missions. Lets discuss each of them individually:

 

1. Finish first in a battle

 

Solution: Tanki has 8 EN servers, and 22 RU servers.

I suggest we reserve servers RU15 to RU22 for missions of this type.

Now usually there are 4 vs 4 team matches in these servers.

 

Here is my proposition:

Say I'm in blue team and there are 3 others in my team, and 3 in red team.

I call out in battle chat that I need to finish first.

The remaining people in blue team leave.

Its 3 vs 1.

Tanki will detect that teams are unbalanced, and battle timer will start.

Battle ends within 1 minute, and I get my mission done.

 

If you really want to enjoy your CTF game, then play in one of the EN servers, or RU1 to RU14.

So nobody is hurt.

 

 

2. Capture flags

 

Again, we call out in chat who needs flag, and nobody stops him or shoots him.

In an orderly manner, we can get job done quickly.

Again, only for servers RU15 to RU22.

We dont want to do it on EN1 as some people might actually be enjoying a CTF game there, and our being mults may not be a good experience for them.

 

3. Collect Boxes

 

These can also be done easily on the servers I mentioned.

 

I will not comment about gold box missions. I always swap it away.

 

4. Destroy enemies 

    Earn experience in a battle mode

 

For this I suggest you remain on the EN servers or RU1 to RU14.

It will take longer, but please don't come to a 1 vs 1 battle and ask somebody to let you kill them 80 times.

 

5. Capture points

 

Again we can do this sequentially on RU15 to RU22

No killing, we take points one by one.

 

 

Thats it from me.

I hope we all cooperate on this, and get the missions done quickly like before, and spend more time on game formats that we enjoy more (polygon, noise, xp/bp, rio ctf, madness, monte carlo etc.)

 

Please spread the word!

 

PS: I'm still a bit new to the forum.

It would be great if somebody could maybe create a separate topic for this, and pin it on top.

It might be a good idea to post a link to this in battle chats on all servers from time to time.

 

If you have gold mission:

Go to a deserted server. Create a TDM game. Invite a good friend or join with your alt. Drop gold box. Take it. Mission done.

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

But - but - the many many many complaints (I laughed typing that) about cheaters doing island 1 vs 1....

 

Apparently there are way more complaints about people finishing their missions without playing proper games. Who are these "mystery" complainers and why do they care. And why do they have so much influence?   :blink:

 

It's not as if tankers are now going into Regular battles and just collecting supply boxes and ignoring the actual battle.

 

Oh wait...   :ph34r:

But right here in the Forum there is a topic with almost 80 pages of complaints...oh, thats about the daily missson update not the 1vs1 vile cheaters abusing the game in Island (contemptible villains)

[shaurya471 313]

So I have been upgrading my railgun m3 to m4 and right now it is at 23/50 so what will i be refunded or what will happen?

 

Divide it by 2.5

 

23/2.5= 9.2;9 approx

 

So it would be 9/20

[shaurya471 313]

Hate the update, worst one ever

[Fresh 2,390]

I just want to know what is the point of buying pro battle passes if we cannot do our missions on those kind of maps that we want.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I have been thinking about missions and their effect on the game for a while now, but until now I haven't had time to sit down, organise my thoughts, and write something that might or might not make sense.

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Topic merged

[rudedog 7]

Greed is ruining Tanki. Hey Tanki folk, keep the game FUN and you will make money. Keep the game LAME and your players will start to leave and you won't make as much money.

 

This last update is even worse than the big re-balance nerf-a-thon. Why did you do this update? Because a bunch of players were using shortcuts to complete Daily Missions? So you make doing Daily Missions almost impossible for all players...this is your idiotic fix for a handful of cheaters?

 

Get rid of the Daily Missions altogether. That would take care of the non-problem of cheaters and allow people to play Tanki rather than spend all their time on Missions. Increase battle funds to offset the loss of player income. Those that play a lot earn a lot.
I loved doing the Daily Missions when I could get them done in a Pro Battle, but now they are just stressfull and keep me from playing real battles. I don't want to concentrate on Speed bpxes when the real game is about battleing other players

Edited April 5, 2017 by BlackWasp777
merged 3 posts, pls use the [edit] button if you like to add something to an already published post of yours. ty

[nelsonny 26]

80 pages later and still no reactions from tanki about our complaints on the mission update...

[tankerkuldeep 739]

#GreedyDevelopers

#RemoveMissionUpdate

Edited April 5, 2017 by tankerkuldeep

[nelsonny 26]

hmm i played in the russian servers today... and it is indeed full.

 

this made me realize, no wonder our complaints about the mission update is not getting heard... my hunch is tanki's primary market is still the russian market, the english market is simply a bonus.

as long as the russian market is healthy and russian players are continuing to play and pay , complaints from the EN community will not matter much.

 

unfortunately for me, i really like this game, hence, even though i am complaining a lot about this update, i still try to do my missions....

 

i will not renew my pro pass when it expires, its not needed anymore because of this update.

[nelsonny 26]

 

So I have come with an idea for a different system.

 

Basically, every player will get three missions every day, these missions are:

Earn experience in battles (250)

Earn experience in battles (500)

Earn experience in battles (1,000)

 

I like Pink_Legacy's idea :)

[nelsonny 26]

 

very balanced indeed....

[bozo88 450]

 

Hello

 

I had some ideas that might get all of us get missions done quickly in non-pro battles, since they can no longer be done in pro battles.

 

I will not tell you how much I hate this update, but will instead focus on what we all can do to help each other and save precious time and supplies, which can be used elsewhere : 

 

 

Now tanki gives us 5 kinds of missions. Lets discuss each of them individually:

 

1. Finish first in a battle

 

Solution: Tanki has 8 EN servers, and 22 RU servers.

I suggest we reserve servers RU15 to RU22 for missions of this type.

Now usually there are 4 vs 4 team matches in these servers.

 

Here is my proposition:

Say I'm in blue team and there are 3 others in my team, and 3 in red team.

I call out in battle chat that I need to finish first.

The remaining people in blue team leave.

Its 3 vs 1.

Tanki will detect that teams are unbalanced, and battle timer will start.

Battle ends within 1 minute, and I get my mission done.

 

If you really want to enjoy your CTF game, then play in one of the EN servers, or RU1 to RU14.

So nobody is hurt.

 

 

2. Capture flags

 

Again, we call out in chat who needs flag, and nobody stops him or shoots him.

In an orderly manner, we can get job done quickly.

Again, only for servers RU15 to RU22.

We dont want to do it on EN1 as some people might actually be enjoying a CTF game there, and our being mults may not be a good experience for them.

 

3. Collect Boxes

 

These can also be done easily on the servers I mentioned.

 

I will not comment about gold box missions. I always swap it away.

 

4. Destroy enemies 

    Earn experience in a battle mode

 

For this I suggest you remain on the EN servers or RU1 to RU14.

It will take longer, but please don't come to a 1 vs 1 battle and ask somebody to let you kill them 80 times.

 

5. Capture points

 

Again we can do this sequentially on RU15 to RU22

No killing, we take points one by one.

 

 

Thats it from me.

I hope we all cooperate on this, and get the missions done quickly like before, and spend more time on game formats that we enjoy more (polygon, noise, xp/bp, rio ctf, madness, monte carlo etc.)

 

Please spread the word!

 

PS: I'm still a bit new to the forum.

It would be great if somebody could maybe create a separate topic for this, and pin it on top.

It might be a good idea to post a link to this in battle chats on all servers from time to time.

 

AKA farming. Box collection is easy, go EN2 and join a big map with few players. 1 and 2 are the only truly hard missions. 

[bozo88 450]

I just want to know what is the point of buying pro battle passes if we cannot do our missions on those kind of maps that we want.

EZ, u hate tweaking noobs. Fin missions, go reckt noobs in a drug free battle.

[D.a.n.t.e 475]

The changes to MUs are very good for buyers and non buyers, because now you don't have to buy the next modification, you can just MU. That will save us a lot of money.. The Speed Ups should be longer in time though, to prevent some of quickly becoming OP.

 

In my case I'm planning to only MU most of my equipment.

 

If they would have said 'do you want this MU update in exchange of eliminating all Missions?', I would have said 'eliminate Missions'.

 

But I have to do Missions because the need to be competitive with the others that are doing them and with buyers, whom will always have the advantage. Tanki is the one who, I think, benefits more from the Missions, because those keep us coming back everyday. Personally if they remove all Missions will be better for me, because that will help me not play Tanki everyday.

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

The wider rank restriction in battle has made playing on my ALT at rank colonel totally un-enjoyable.

Every non pro battle i find i am one of the lowest available ranks.

I just cannot fathom how the devs can expect us to enjoy our time in battles when facing such superior equipment.

 

I entered a Rio CTF battle yesterday against a Marshal (so potentially M3 against my M2 rico and Dic) but still i entered and the score was already 1-0 to them.

I went 3-1 up and a legend joined the opoosing team with viking thunder.

They immendiately capped and i was 1 on 1 with legend and doing ok then he drugged a DD and RK.  I die and ask him if whether he thought that a legned and marshal with drugging was fair against me? 

HE then went and changed equipment to Dictator, Rico and 50% protection from me and then drugged like a mad thing and mined everywhere.

 

I ended up losing 6-4.

 

How can this ever be fun TO? 

 

I realise its just a game and all that but you are making it so hard to enjoy and even when we try and support you and stay here you make it worse.

 

I honestly and truly cannot fathom how this was ever considered a good idea.

[realbigred 101]

Simple Redlinezak -  to tanki good idea = money maker.