What to buy? Which is better?

[blackopspaul 753]

Yay I ranked up and now I have 56k cry. So do you think there will be a 50% sale in March on turrets?

I was 22 from ranking, I was gonna get one more kill than do a rank up party and I accidentally killed the guy with the flag, loool

 

 

does tanki celebrate st.patricks day because irish people all over the world do like new york Ireland parts of india parts of south america and africa  and neary all over europe

[Xenophobia 457]

How about save for M3 Thunder. It is very nice. If you Mu the damage, you can take out a M2 Hornet in 2 shots

Better not consider MUing it, because players can MU their hornets too.

[miasne007 49]

Congratz for this topic.Soon 300 pages and 6000th post :D

Edited March 9, 2014 by miasne007

[Xenophobia 457]

300 pages*

[doduobird 315]

How about save for M3 Thunder. It is very nice. If you Mu the damage, you can take out a M2 Hornet in 2 shots

Don't even have M2 Thunder, I'm waiting for M2 Smoky.

 

does tanki celebrate st.patricks day because irish people all over the world do like new york Ireland parts of india parts of south america and africa  and neary all over europe

I don't think russians celebrate it :P

[apple.com.au 2]

M2 smoky or m2 twins? I find smoky m1 weak and m1 twins strong. Idk about m2......I play ctf and I only use m2 hornet nothing else. I wonder when the sale will be.....

I usually play in noise, sandbox and silence

I hope a high ranked person replies and gives a detailed answer

 

Thanks!

[Endurance 543]

M2 smoky or m2 twins? I find smoky m1 weak and m1 twins strong. Idk about m2......I play ctf and I only use m2 hornet nothing else. I wonder when the sale will be.....

I usually play in noise, sandbox and silence

I hope a high ranked person replies and gives a detailed answer

Thanks!

I guess if you play DM most of the time, go for Twins. If you play TDM more go for Smoky. But then, it all depends on your gameplay and which one you prefer (or better play better with).

 

If you only play CTF, then you should go for whichever one you prefer/play better with.

IMO, Smoky would work better on Hornet M2 than Twins. Twins would require a heavy hull.

Edited March 9, 2014 by Endurance

[Vettefan22 145]

Ok so I just got M1 Wasp, and I decided I will save up next for M1 Viking. I already have a good paint for my Viking (In Love cuz 90% sale), but I really need a good paint for my wasp. I have Forester, but M1 Rails can usually still 1-shot me, and I'm an easy kill for any shafts. So a paint with fairly equal protection from rail and shaft would be awesome, and it'd be great to have protection from Thunder since I use it and splash damage can currently take away half my health. Also it wouldn't hurt if it looked awesome. So... suggestion? Looking for this rank or next.

[McMacklemore 39]

What's the best choice:

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

No question about it, the M2 Medium kit is an extremely good value. Prodigi + emerald are included, which are better than Prodigi + Rustle in the paint kit alone. It would be silly to buy the hull kit, when you can only use one at a time anyways... the M2 heavy kit is sub-par, Mammy M2 isnt that great, especially in comparison to M2 Titan... and M2 ricochet is almost useless.

 

Buy the M2 medium kit, Thunder + Viking M2 + Prodigi + Emerald. Its the best kit that has existed yet, for the value and rank of unlock.

[McMacklemore 39]

^Well I know that, but I'm on with the Smokey M2, which goes good with Hunter M2. Those paints are awesome....and thank you for the max Mu's!

*Umm, can you do M0, M1 and M2 as well on your max Mu's page? Just asking..

Edited March 9, 2014 by McMacklemore

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

 Those paints are awesome....and thank you for the max Mu's!

*Umm, can you do M0, M1 and M2 as well on your max Mu's page? Just asking..

Its extremely silly to MU to max at M0,M1 or M2... its a HUGE rip off. You only want to max MU at M3. You'll literally waste HUNDREDS of thousands of crystals if you try to max MU M1 or M2s... and that doesnt include speed-ups... if you want to include speedups, you're easily looking at a MILLION crystals just for a max MU'd item. The biggest waste of crystals since tanki existed lol.

 

Therefore, there is no  need for a chart. Though at the bottom of my page, you'll see three links which contain every single increment of each parameter in detail, price, time, exact amount of increase per step. Feel free to add up a few steps if you wish to know the price and stat increase of the first few steps... only the first 3-4 steps (at max) are recommended on an M1 or M2 item... probably only 2 steps... of the most important parameters. Otherwise you're just throwing crystals in the trash. It is NOT worth the 'discount' by maxing out a parameter. You spend waaay more in the long run.

 

 

"^Well I know that, but I'm on with the Smokey M2, which goes good with Hunter M2."

 

Don't buy Hunter M2 if you can get Viking M2... Viking M2 is far superior. Hunter M2 unlocks early, and has considerably worse stats. At M2, Viking is by far the best medium hull. Hunter is only good at M1 and M3.

 

Smoky isnt unlocked until late... your best route is the M2 Medium kit with Viking + Thunder, and then later you can buy your M2 smoky, since its so far away.

 

I own Hunter M2, I no longer use it except on rare occasions... and I wont use it until I am able to get it to M3. Even at M3, its not that amazing others say.

Edited March 9, 2014 by r_brandybabyxx0

[apple.com.au 2]

I guess if you play DM most of the time, go for Twins. If you play TDM more go for Smoky. But then, it all depends on your gameplay and which one you prefer (or better play better with).

If you only play CTF, then you should go for whichever one you prefer/play better with.

IMO, Smoky would work better on Hornet M2 than Twins. Twins would require a heavy hull.

I said I play CTF I don't play anything else

[McMacklemore 39]

I tried M3 Hunter on the Test server and it was extremely good. Once Ralphy said in his videos on medium hulls that if you want to have a drifting hull, its the Hunter.

But if you use M3 Hunter with maxed out Clay, Rail nor Thunder can kill you so easily. Also I Mu until they come more than 300 crystals, which I'm able to kill druggers so Easily by the way.

Hopefully your right, and I already checked that out, not long ago . Anyways thanks for your HUGE help! :D Just wanting to see other people comments though.

Edited March 9, 2014 by McMacklemore

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

M2 smoky or m2 twins? I find smoky m1 weak and m1 twins strong. Idk about m2......I play ctf and I only use m2 hornet nothing else. I wonder when the sale will be.....

I usually play in noise, sandbox and silence

I hope a high ranked person replies and gives a detailed answer

 

Thanks!

Both are very good weapons. The only problem however with Smoky, is that there are many paint protections against it. With the updating of the Light M3 kit which now contains Needle, smoky protection is everywhere. There was already a large number of Savanna paint users running around, and with the added Needle users, its hard to find a match where one enemy player (at least) isnt using heavy smoky protection.

 

Twins on the other hand, since it was nerfed with slower bullet traveling speed, there are far less paint protections against it, and you can do quite well with it. @hogree recently posted a few screenshots of him using Twins in a few large CTF games in 1st place with Generalissimos in it. (I believe his was M3) Due to enemys having very little protection from twins, he easily was able to do well and score plenty of kills and flag captures. He used Hornet with it.

 

I don't own Twins, but I do own M2 Smoky, and I can tell you that it is awesome! I use it on my M2 Titan and my M3 Wasp, both work exceptionally well... the critical hits are super fun, especially when you get 2-3 in a row! In my opinion, Twins are very boring so.. they are not for me, but if you like the gameplay with Twins, then you can't go wrong with M2 twins. I do not regret purchasing M2 smoky by ANY means, I LOVE it, especially for using with Titan in heavy drug wars because the critical hits give you a large advantage vs other druggers. It 1 shot kills enemy wasp/hornet druggers, making their HP packs 100% useless. This is very helpful, and when I critical hit a medium/heavy hull, it takes out a significant portion of their HP.. and since they take so many shots to kill, I almost always score a critical hit on one of the enemy heavy hulls... which leads to victory.

 

So ultimately both are very good, and since they both unlock late, they are useful for many ranks to come. I suggest you choose the one that you enjoy more. If you play large maps, Smoky will probably be better because you have a much greater range. It does great in small and medium maps too though. If you play mostly in small maps and medium maps, then you should also consider Twins.

 

The part about you saying you find 'M1 smoky weak' this is because M1 smoky unlocks at a very early rank... similar to firebird. Any Modification of a piece of equipment which unlocks earlier than the other equipment of that same Modification are generally weaker... for example, Thunder M1 and Hunter M1 unlock very late to all the other m1s... and they are without a doubt extremely powerful. Same for M2 Smoky, Viking, and Titan... these all unlock late, and they are better generally, than the earlier unlocked M2s. M2 smoky is NOT weak at all.

 

Good luck. :D

 

 

I tried M3 Hunter on the Test server and it was extremely good. Once Ralphy said in his videos on medium hulls that if you want to have a drifting hull, its the Hunter.

But if you use M3 Hunter with maxed out Clay, Rail nor Thunder can kill you so easily. Also I Mu until they come more than 300 crystals, which I'm able to kill druggers so Easily by the way.

Hopefully your right, and I already checked that out, not long ago . Anyways thanks for your HUGE help! :D Just wanting to see other people comments though.

As I said in my post above, Hunter is great at M1 and M3... at M2 though, its weak in comparison to Viking and Titan. It completely loses its effectiveness at Brigadier, when you're facing M3 hornets which literally have the same amount of HP as you... but they are 3.0 speed faster, and smaller being harder to hit... with far better accel/pushing power, not to mention turning speed. Hunter M2 was not one of my best purchases, but it 'got me through' the ranks. If I could go back though, I would've purchased the M2 Medium kit for Viking.

 

And you're very welcome. :) Hopefully you'll get some other peoples opinions too.

Edited March 9, 2014 by r_brandybabyxx0

[apple.com.au 2]

Both are very good weapons. The only problem however with Smoky, is that there are many paint protections against it. With the updating of the Light M3 kit which now contains Needle, smoky protection is everywhere. There was already a large number of Savanna paint users running around, and with the added Needle users, its hard to find a match where one enemy player (at least) isnt using heavy smoky protection.

 

Twins on the other hand, since it was nerfed with slower bullet traveling speed, there are far less paint protections against it, and you can do quite well with it. @hogree recently posted a few screenshots of him using Twins in a few large CTF games in 1st place with Generalissimos in it. (I believe his was M3) Due to enemys having very little protection from twins, he easily was able to do well and score plenty of kills and flag captures. He used Hornet with it.

 

I don't own Twins, but I do own M2 Smoky, and I can tell you that it is awesome! I use it on my M2 Titan and my M3 Wasp, both work exceptionally well... the critical hits are super fun, especially when you get 2-3 in a row! In my opinion, Twins are very boring so.. they are not for me, but if you like the gameplay with Twins, then you can't go wrong with M2 twins. I do not regret purchasing M2 smoky by ANY means, I LOVE it, especially for using with Titan in heavy drug wars because the critical hits give you a large advantage vs other druggers. It 1 shot kills enemy wasp/hornet druggers, making their HP packs 100% useless. This is very helpful, and when I critical hit a medium/heavy hull, it takes out a significant portion of their HP.. and since they take so many shots to kill, I almost always score a critical hit on one of the enemy heavy hulls... which leads to victory.

 

So ultimately both are very good, and since they both unlock late, they are useful for many ranks to come. I suggest you choose the one that you enjoy more. If you play large maps, Smoky will probably be better because you have a much greater range. It does great in small and medium maps too though. If you play mostly in small maps and medium maps, then you should also consider Twins.

 

The part about you saying you find 'M1 smoky weak' this is because M1 smoky unlocks at a very early rank... similar to firebird. Any Modification of a piece of equipment which unlocks earlier than the other equipment of that same Modification are generally weaker... for example, Thunder M1 and Hunter M1 unlock very late to all the other m1s... and they are without a doubt extremely powerful. Same for M2 Smoky, Viking, and Titan... these all unlock late, and they are better generally, than the earlier unlocked M2s. M2 smoky is NOT weak at all.

 

Good luck. :D

 

 

 

As I said in my post above, Hunter is great at M1 and M3... at M2 though, its weak in comparison to Viking and Titan. It completely loses its effectiveness at Brigadier, when you're facing M3 hornets which literally have the same amount of HP as you... but they are 3.0 speed faster, and smaller being harder to hit... with far better accel/pushing power, not to mention turning speed. Hunter M2 was not one of my best purchases, but it 'got me through' the ranks. If I could go back though, I would've purchased the M2 Medium kit for Viking.

 

And you're very welcome. :) Hopefully you'll get some other peoples opinions too.

 

 

 

 

Thank you very much for this I did not consider paints before. Okay in terms of power I think m2 twins win but many people say m2 smoky is awesome. So which is more fun and is the smoky critical chance good? How much is m1 twins to m2 twins difference? And looking at the stats smoky m1 to smoky m2 is very good. Is the extra 1% chance of the smoky critically a big difference? I am not sure if I can rank up in time for a sale as well. But if I don't I think I will get m2 twins but if I do I may get m2 smoky

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Thank you very much for this I did not consider paints before. Okay in terms of power I think m2 twins win but many people say m2 smoky is awesome. So which is more fun and is the smoky critical chance good? How much is m1 twins to m2 twins difference? And looking at the stats smoky m1 to smoky m2 is very good. Is the extra 1% chance of the smoky critically a big difference? I am not sure if I can rank up in time for a sale as well. But if I don't I think I will get m2 twins but if I do I may get m2 smoky

I prefer Smoky for its 'surprise' factor. The critical hits make the enemys rage... especially if you get 2 crits in a row. They save you at the best moments resulting in epic wins and its just a joy... though sometimes you get a string of 15-20 shots without a single critical hit... those moments are pretty dull... but with Smoky you can knock enemy railguns off aim, and even thunder/smoky users by aiming at the corners of their hull, so its enjoyable to practice this and master it. Twins has much less impact force now, in comparison to what it used to have... twins isn't my type of gun, so I'm not the right person to ask probably, but I know that those who purchase it say its decent, and usually dont regret it.

 

Smoky M2 crits alot actually, significantly more than M1 does. You'll have 'good' games where you critical hit ALOT, and 'bad' games where they just seem to have gone into hibernation mode... but it later makes up for it. The only problem is the paints - if you can manage all the paint protections being used against your turret, then you have nothing to worry about.

[Royalworld 1,269]

Fire or Thunder?

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

Fire or Thunder?

More info about yourself?

 

Both are good... but due to lots of Emeralds, Cedars, and Prodigis... but almost 0 Loams, and only a few Zeus at your ranks (and even a few ranks above), Firebird would have little to no enemies using protection against it. Occasionally you'll spot an inferno... but its only 30% and with firebirds high damage per second, its insignificant for the most part.

 

It really comes down to which you prefer to use... M2 Firebird is a huge step up from M1, while M2 Thunder is a very small increase from M1, so for the money you spend, you're getting a much more improved turret by going with Firebird.

 

I only have M1 Fire/Thunder so I can't tell you exactly from personal experience. I have yet to find someone who regrets purchasing M2 Firebird though, its apparently very OP at the rank of Major to Colonel, and I've seen many high high rank players using it in DMs and other matches against Generalissimos with M3s... and them with M2 Firebird owning the match in 1st place. I have yet to see this done with M2 Thunder, so maybe that can provide for you a little insight.

[TheMenacePotato 65]

I have viking m1 and thunder m0, right now i have around 300 cry and I want to get a thunder m1, what is the best way to make crystals for me right now? 

Edited March 9, 2014 by TheMenacePotato

[miasne007 49]

I have viking m1 and thunder m0, right now i have around 300 cry and I want to get a thunder m1, what is the best way to make crystals for me right now?

 

If you will not buy them ;then play in maps where are players lower ranks than you,go DM and try to be first,try to catch GoldBox :) Good luck

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

I have viking m1 and thunder m0, right now i have around 300 cry and I want to get a thunder m1, what is the best way to make crystals for me right now? 

Here are a few:

 

How to get crystals verry fast

How to get crystals fast

Crystals: What are they? How to earn them?

 

Its not suggested however to simply pickup crystals rather than focusing on the match you're in... this would be considered sabotage. You can actually earn alot more crystals by simply coming in 1st place in your matches, and choosing battles wisely - ones which you can win. Since you get 0 experience points for picking up crystals... you're missing out on the 'crystals for ranking up' bonus that you get every time you rank. These help alot more than you'd expect, especially if you focus your efforts on accumulating as many points as possible... it also means that as you rank higher, every day your bonus will be considerably better... and this adds up over time. You also become a more skilled player by focusing on the game.. and Tanki is much more enjoyable. Even if you earn plenty of crystals by picking them up in DMs, it is of little use to own a nice garage when all you know how to do in tanki is memorize every single crystal drop spot lol.

[apple.com.au 2]

I prefer Smoky for its 'surprise' factor. The critical hits make the enemys rage... especially if you get 2 crits in a row. They save you at the best moments resulting in epic wins and its just a joy... though sometimes you get a string of 15-20 shots without a single critical hit... those moments are pretty dull... but with Smoky you can knock enemy railguns off aim, and even thunder/smoky users by aiming at the corners of their hull, so its enjoyable to practice this and master it. Twins has much less impact force now, in comparison to what it used to have... twins isn't my type of gun, so I'm not the right person to ask probably, but I know that those who purchase it say its decent, and usually dont regret it.

 

Smoky M2 crits alot actually, significantly more than M1 does. You'll have 'good' games where you critical hit ALOT, and 'bad' games where they just seem to have gone into hibernation mode... but it later makes up for it. The only problem is the paints - if you can manage all the paint protections being used against your turret, then you have nothing to worry about.

 

 

Ok I have decided what to buy when a 50% sale comes up. These days I like twins and find them powerful and get good scores when using m1 but I want to try m2 smoky out. I like the critical hits but for me at m1 smoky I rarely get any critical shots. I actually prefer smoky playing style and fast reload with critical hits but I only don't like the weapon because without critical shots smoky is so weak (almost never get any critical hits). M2 smoky IMO is a huge upgrade from m1 and m2 twins is only small upgrade from m1 to m2. So in the end I will get m2 twins IF I do not rank up in time, however IF I do rank up in time then I will m2 smoky. I have no doubt these weapons will be great but as for twins when I got m1 twins it was so op then it was very boring and I didn't use it. Now I use it and find it fun so idk. As for smoky, when I bought it I always used it but then it was not powerful at all after. Also what paint do you think I should get (remember I play on CTF noise and sandbox and silence)? I really think I should get inferno because there are soooooo many freezes out there these days and the extra twins and firebird will be useful plus it is cheap. But you are more experienced so I wonder what paint you think I should get

 

 

P.s thank you for your time and effort as you have put in so much detail which was surprising to see abut also what I really needed. You have been the most helpful person so far. Thanks!

[r_brandybabyxx0 737]

 Also what paint do you think I should get (remember I play on CTF noise and sandbox and silence)? I really think I should get inferno because there are soooooo many freezes out there these days and the extra twins and firebird will be useful plus it is cheap. But you are more experienced so I wonder what paint you think I should get

 

P.s thank you for your time and effort as you have put in so much detail which was surprising to see abut also what I really needed. You have been the most helpful person so far. Thanks!

Generally on a light hull, its better to use medium-long range paint protections, because with your speed, you can usually avoid most of the close range users by simply backing up and keeping your distance. If you played any other maps... I'd recommend a paint like Savanna, Digital, etc... but since those maps are loaded with Freeze and Thunder users... you might find success using Rustle. There are lots of Isidas in Noise/Silence too, so the 10% Isida protection is actually useful. Rustle is a cheap fix for a good paint that will last you for many ranks, and with a few MU's its even better. Some say its better than Emerald, but I suppose its a matter of opinion. For the price, its a steal. I have Zeus paint, yet I still use my Rustle on many occasions.

 

Your main problem when using a light hull, is that you simply don't want to be 1 shot killed by an enemy railgun user. This absolutely hinders you. Savanna will prevent this, and generally Emerald will too. I wouldn't exactly suggest buying Savanna though, since there are so many other smoky protections around, it encourages people in general to not use Smoky, therefore you wouldnt benefit as much with a smoky protection yourself if there are less players using it already. Thunder on the other hand is extremely popular... in all three of those maps you listed. I would think Emerald or Rustle would do you the best for a 'temporary' paint to last you until the high ranks where you can get something more expensive.

 

I used Tundra forever until I finally bought Rustle, and it was a substational upgrade, but my problem - being a wasp user, is that I can't use Rustle nor Zeus with wasp, because enemy railguns 1 shot kill me. I'm forced to use my old Tundra paint... which is pretty lame. I desperately need something like Prodigi at this point, or anything with 10-20% railgun protection on it so that I can use my Wasp more efficiently.

 

This won't apply to you once you get M3 hornet, it can take an M3 rail shot. At M2 on the other hand, you'll be facing a few M3 railgunners so it could certainly be a problem for you for a couple of ranks if you play with those at Brigaider to General ranks.

 

Inferno/Irbis/other close range paints are better for use on heavy hulls, because they take more damage from close range weapons. They can't escape, and need to survive while they deal as much damage as possible, so usually you will use Inferno in a map like Hill, Island, Deck-9, Farm, etc,  where it is loaded with Freeze users with heavy hulls on drugs. Don't get me wrong, close range paints can be used on light hulls, but from my experience, and a few discussions with others, at least until you get your M3 Hornet, you'll want to use some medium to long range protection on it. Rail or Thunder will probably fit you best.

 

Sorry if I rambled there. Hope you can make sense of some of that.

[Royalworld 1,269]

I am talking about m2, i have both m1. I usually get good scores with thunder but i am afraid that i might find more thunder paint at high ranks. So is fire worth it?