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Anyone else have advice on what kit I should get? 

I'm considering Osaka but should I just get some other kit later on instead that has a m2 hull? I don't really play with isida much tho.

Thanks for advice.

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Well, in Poly CP at my rank Atlas does alright, although I don't really see it very much. Often first to second place. The Firebird paint would help. Personally, I hate opposing Smoky more than a good Shaft (when it's shooting me, that is), so the kit's a pain to deal with, in my opinion. Titan M2 is a good deal, and Smoky easily matches my M3 Thunder in most cases. Back to Poly, I think there are probably better places for Atlas, as there is only one CP and Smoky doesn't perform best in the middle of the map. I would stay on the outside, meaning that you will get more kills and you won't die as much, but neither will you get points from capturing. You'd probably want to play in DM or elsewhere for best results.

 

Don't worry about Pitbull, then. The cost is too much if you aren't sure about it.

 

I'd believe that Atlas could easily last you until you can buy an M3 (Brig and later). The only slight issue I would maybe have, myself, is that Smoky doesn't perform excellently in small maps, and neither does Titan excel in large. I would want to switch out the Titan for a lighter hull in some matches and vice versa with Smoky. So for more general use, maybe go for Northerner.

 

Again, all the parts of Atlas are great, but they only work well together in particular situations (medium maps, it seems). Individually they could all last fine long into M3 ranks, but together when with/in the wrong maps/situations/enemies it'll only perform average. Trying not to put you off it; this is only my opinion. I haven't used Atlas before, so I might be very wrong. Play in the right maps, and you'll do fine.

 

Hope this helps you, too.

 

 

As an atlas user, I can confirm you observations. They are 100% correct

Ok, so in poly DM, silence and noise stuff would atlas be good? So you guys think spending an extra 10k for northerner would be a better buy for all-around use? The only issue I have with that is I'm not sure how well I can catch golds in it. Other than that, viking is awesome - I just see dictators and titans take a lot of golds.

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Ok to make things clearer:

I want to MU 3 turrets (short, medium, long) that will:

- make it hard for people to protect against 2 or all 3 turrets in 1 paint

- be compatible with wasp, viking, titan (when possible)

 

I will MU Smoky and Shaft. Im not sure with the short range turret. The candidates are:

- Isida

- Fire

- Freeze

- Twins

- Hammer

 

Isida is OP, but not very fun to use, and its hard to aim with it using Wasp when being fired upon.

 

Fire is great, but when using wasp, you want to avoid taking damage. You need to get up close, and hit and runs have a low survival chance for the attacker...

 

Freeze is better, because you slow the enemy, and they wont be able to hit you. Great for objective games (which i always play).

 

Twins is great, but its boring, and annoyingly loud. Doesnt fit with wasp.

 

Hammer is great from what ive seen. I dont have it yet, but i think itll be a good investment cause it has recoil if you flip with wasp.

 

Compatibility-wise, Freeze, Fire and Hammer are the best. But, there are a lot of paints that protect against these AND my smoky and shaft (eg. Zeus, Tiger, Picasso).

 

Which of these 3 (Freeze, Fire, Hammer) should i get?

Only one response? :(

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Do you drug there? I hardly get 1k crystals unless drugging.

 

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Which will technically win in a duel: Hammer M4 or Isida M4? (Both have Viking M4) ?

sr for late answer ,yeah a little ;) need a dd to get the 1k cry ;)

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i have a problem too ,plz help 

i have m3 thunder with 32 MU and m2 with 26MU mammoth 

what should i do now? MU them full to m4 and m3 or keep the cry for other m3?something like twins or wasp

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Only one response? :(

Forget about Freeze (Freeze wasp isnt good as u think, wasp is very weak) and u said that you are gonna MU smoky, so IMO go for Fire or isida , Personally i prefer isida bcoz it is too damn OP at M4 stage (Isida Viking-Titan is a great combo)

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Ok, so in poly DM, silence and noise stuff would atlas be good? So you guys think spending an extra 10k for northerner would be a better buy for all-around use? The only issue I have with that is I'm not sure how well I can catch golds in it. Other than that, viking is awesome - I just see dictators and titans take a lot of golds.

Unless you are playing in Poly/smaller maps, Titan won't really catch many golds. You are right, though; Titan's power can win gold boxes if it is in the right place.

 

As for how well it performs. In Poly DM it tends to top battles. Haven't really spent much time in those DMs, and haven't met many Atlas users there, maybe because of the price. In Noise, I don't think it'd be the best for raiding the blue base, as it doesn't deal out a large amount of damage quickly, just a steady amount that works best against one or two targets, not five like in Noise (I am referring to the clusters of people around flags in CTF).

 

I might be biased, but Viking appeals more to me than Titan simply because of the speed. I have M2 Mammoth (Bulldozer kit) and I only use it in Poly DM and other close spaces. I only feel its speed is good enough to round a corner. Do not even think about that box over the field, unless you have nothing else to try to achieve. A Hornet or even Dictator will appear and beat you to it, also taking away half of your health when they get that double armour you were trying to reach.

Titan has more speed than Mammoth, and isn't as bulky, but it is, nonetheless, slow. I'm sure you can tell that I'd go for Viking, unless I spent most of my time in Poly.

 

Titan M2 has 315hp, and Viking has 230. A standard Hornet M2 has 139. Titan's speed is 5.6, while Viking's is 8.2. Hornet's is 10.4.

 

Looking at the statistics alone, Titan's health looks really impressive (and it is). Its speed is not, though. Viking's speed is enough to keep enemies easily in your sight, unlike Titan (besides on Poly, where there is always an enemy in your sight). With speed boost, you can almost stay level with that Hornet using Viking.

 

In Poly (DM) or other cramped spaces, I would side with Atlas, but elsewhere Northerner would be my choice. Smoky isn't best in tiny maps, anyway. Atlas for golds in minuscule maps, and Viking elsewhere; Titan couldn't ever catch a gold in Kungur.

 

Only one response? :(

Sorry, nowhere near your rank, so you'd be able to decide yourself better than I could. Anyway, Hammer would be best with Titan unless you were playing in Ping-Pong, where anything goes. I'm pretty sure Fire goes before Freeze, though. Fire or Hammer? Hammer isn't great against heavy hulls, is it (?), and if you were using Titan, chances are you are playing against other Titans. When it comes to using other hulls, none of those three turrets would have much of a problem surviving, (depending on maps).

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Forget about Freeze (Freeze wasp isnt good as u think, wasp is very weak) and u said that you are gonna MU smoky, so IMO go for Fire or isida , Personally i prefer isida bcoz it is too damn OP at M4 stage (Isida Viking-Titan is a great combo)

with wasp, you still need some range so that you can back away from enemies, for example those stupid isida vikings.

 

Smoky wasp is beast, and i tried m2 hammer and wasp; both great.

 

Ill try isida wasp, but i highly doubt itll be effective.

 

Im ruling out freeze and twins. Still iffy with fire...

 

Ill try isida, but ill rule it out too if it doesnt fit with wasp. Itll fit with viking for sure, but i want turrets that will fit at least 2 or 3 of: wasp, viking and titan.

 

Fire is good, but you have to get very close, and i like my personal space. :p

 

That leaves hammer. But ill be screwed with tigers and nanos because smoky and hammer will be my only offensive turrets. Is muing smoky and hammer a good idea?!

Edited by HaloScorpionV2

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Should I ?

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No. Just no. Please don't do it! Save for a kit or something. Anything but a Drug Kit. Their horrible at your rank! And they waste lots of crystals. Plus a kit gets you lots of free supplies and is actually worth the price ate your rank. Weak M2 Kits and powerful M1 kits is what you should be saving up for. I recommend the Serbain kit. It's has M2 Freeze and M1 Hunter at WO 2!!! And you have enough so be patient and wait till you rank up. :)

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No don't get the supply kit it's not worth it...You should be getting M1 or M1/M2 kits (when you rank). Or you can get Fighter, it's really OP.

Edit: And why are the prices of your other kits off...Fighter for example should be 44k not 31k and Piranha should be 41k not 28k.

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Which is best on Wasp? Fire, Freeze, Isida or Hammer?

I haven't played heaps with Wasp, but I have with Hornet.

 

Fire would net you a number of kills, but I'm sure your D/L will be lower than usual. As for Freeze, you may play better than Fire if you utilise its effects against enemies. Using Wasp/Freeze M0 against low ranked players (yeah, this might not mean much, but it's an example nonetheless) I was able to get 11 kills in Serpuhov before my first death, not even using supplies (just boxes). The reason being, they couldn't land many hits on me; I was behind them and they were frozen. Although Freeze isn't really powerful, it can still be used to play well. With Hammer, you'd be able to stay out of your opponent's way with more ease, depending on the map. I wouldn't really take Isida, although it is in the Ant kit. If you used it in less intense situations, it might do fine, but I just think that Wasp's low health isn't good enough. Fire kills quickly, but Isida is slower. The self healing would be a good asset (in afterthought).

 

Fire kills quickly, so it might be alright with Wasp. Freeze can avoid enemy damage, so it could be fine depending on the situation. Hammer should work well thanks to its range, and I'm not sure about Isida.

 

Hammer would probably be my bet, but Fire or Freeze could do fine, too.

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