What to buy? Which is better?

rocketmonkey2015 · July 4, 2016

First of all, you should avoid buying separate turrets and hulls. Buying kits instead is way cheaper - you often pay less for the kit than for a turret + hull, and you get a paint in addition.

I am saving up for a kit, I am not buying turrets and hulls separately.

Unfortunately, it does depend on the playing style and skill. However, it depends more on the maps you play most often. For example, thunder might be good in Polygon CP, but bad for Arena, Island and Hill maps. Players also have their own likings. Some love thunder, some say it sucks... Whom shall you believe? None, you need to try yourself. Yes, I know you cannot afford to buy all turrets. Life sucks.

I have put up the maps that I play on so could you recommend an M2 combo for those. I am good with the M1 turrets that I use which are thunder and railgun. But I don't know how I will do with other turrets and I don't want to buy an M2 turret that I suck with so I need to know what most players prefer as an M2 turret. Also for some turrets when you get M2 for it it's not that stronger than its M1 version therefore it would be weak compared to other M2 turrets so I need to know which is the best.

If you have a good M1 combo now, you might think about skipping M2 and saving for M3 equipment. M3/M3 kits start being available at Lieutenant Colonel rank (5 ranks higher than you are now). By the time you save up enough crystals for M2 stuff, you might be close to unlock first M3 kits. So, you must answer the question: which M3 kit are you going to buy first? And then another question: can you reach the rank that unlocks your M3 kit with your current tank or you must buy M2 equipment? Maybe an M2/M3 kit is a good option for you? They are unlocked 2-3 ranks earlier than full M3 kits.

In current battles whenever I am facing M2 players I find it quite difficult, I may be able to score some kills but most of the time I die and get a relatively low score so I think I would need an M2 kit.

Do you want to know how to save up crystals? Save them! Which means - do not waste them. You have wasted a lot of crystals for buying stuff you did not really need. You wanted to buy them? It's fine, but do not complain now that saving is hard. Just think twice or thrice before buying anything. I have not bought any M1 turret or hull and bought only one M2 kit ("Boar"). I was saving for M3 equipment, got over 500,000 crystals now and I am waiting for kits rotation. (This is not my 1st account, keep in mind I got some experience on another one!)

On the contrary I don't think I have wasted my crystals. I had first gotten M1 Firebird which was very helpful and got me lots of kills, even now at my rank it is still quite strong so it was a good investment. I then had gotten M1 Shaft since I was using Shaft a bit back then but I suppose that was kind of a waste since I hardly use it now (I was a bit of a noob with knowledge of which turrets are good). I also got M1 Mammoth since it was cheap but that also might have been a waste since I don't really use it now (as I said before I was a bit of a noob back then). I then got M1 Rail and M1 Hornet which was very useful and let me get high scores. I then got M1 Thunder and M1 Viking which also very useful since it has more DPS than Rail and I am currently using this combination now and it is quite strong. Forester and Marine were very cheap and provided moderate protection and I used them for a while so they weren't a waste. Lead might have been a waste since it was more expensive than Forester and Marine and now I don't use it. I got Corrosion recently and it protects well against annoying turrets like Rail and Shaft. So in theory most of the stuff I bought was not a waste. Not buying any M1 equipment is quite foolish since by the time you come to the rank of buying M2 equipment you will get annihilated. I destroy people that have M0 equipment VERY easily and they usually have the lowest scores.

Ok, so about what you could possibly buy. Most of the maps you play on are big or medium ones. Only Hill is small. Thus, I would suggest long- or medium-range turret. Thunder pairs well with both viking and hornet, even with Mammoth if you like to camp e.g. on Highland or Polygon maps. Railgun is fun, but requires a lot of skill to get high scores. I can't say how long you can play with thunder and viking/hornet M1 without a pain, but firebird M1 will become too weak before you unlock M3 kits. I don't liek shaft and I haven't played much with it, so I will not comment it.

However, I can assure you that all these 3 turrets are bad for small maps like Hill (thunder being best among them, but still bad).

I do have quite a lot of skill with railgun as I can achieve lots of kills even in difficult situations. Thunder and Viking is very powerful but it is kind of slow so close range turrets sometimes reach me and kill me. For that I usually just drop a mine which kills them so it's not really a problem. When I play Polygon CP I use M1 Firebird + M1 Viking and it is extremely strong as I usually have the highest score in my team. I have to disagree with you about Hill as when I use the above combo of Firebird it is amazing. With Rail I can usually jump into the enemy area, shoot someone, and get back to base.

Now about turrets you do not have. Isida is great for earning experience/score (you don't have to engage enemy, you gain experience/score by healing teammates), but is also often targeted first. Ricochet is great for maps with a lot of obstalces (preferably with flat walls), or just small and medium maps. I'm using M2 rico and it's just great till Major rank, and it's still good (not so great though) later. Freeze would work fine for all maps you mentioned (mounted on hornet hull). Smoky would be a good option for all your favourite maps as well, either on viking or hornet hulls. Twins is a good option too, especially for Highland, Noise, Polygon and Hill maps.

I already know all of that about Isida and Ricochet. M2 Freeze is not that much stronger than M1 Freeze, it only has a slight buff making it weaker than most other M2 turrets and I can usually kill M2 Freezes easily with my M1 Thunder. I agree that M2 Smoky is great with M2 Viking and it is one of the best M2 turrets. I also agree that M2 Twins is very strong paired with M2 Viking, with Double Power it can rack up some serious kills since you have no reloading so you can dish out maximum damage at multiple enemies. M2 Firebird is also one of the best M2 turrets, it does amazing damage and great damage with the afterburn, the afterburn can last for 12 secs so you have no problem destroying enemies. The only bad thing is that its reloading is quite long but since you deal massive damage you usually just need to use half of your energy bar to kill and enemy, not to mention the great damage that the afterburn does. It can beat any turret up close since if you die before your opponent the afterburn will finish them off, plus your fire goes through enemies so you can damage multiple enemies at once. The only other drawback is that it is short range, but it can still do amazing in short to medium maps. Also since M1 Firebird is unlocked so early on, M2 is unlocked a lot later so it is much stronger. It can do a maximum of a whopping 905.3 damage including the full afterburn with a full energy bar making it the highest DPS of any M2 turret.

I think you will be able to buy a good kit at major. Dont buy a cheap kit that wont last you till the m3 ranks. I suggest you minotaur. Its the best kit for the maps you play. But you are lucku because your thunder-viking combo is good. Play only with it in polygon. If you want to save more crystals per xp and you are patient you can just do the crystal missions every day and then leave.

Spiral_Beam · July 4, 2016

I`m wondering what to get that is good for-

- Brest CTF

- Polygon CP

- Sandbox ( All battle modes )

- Serpuhov CTF and TDM

- Noise CTF

- Highland ( All battle modes )

- Molotov CTF and TDM

- Barda ( All battle modes )

- Farm CTF

This is my 1st plan:

. Get Keeper kit or Tsunami kit

. Then get Fighter kit or Bulldog ( Only get Bulldog if you purchased Keeper )

. Then get Predator kit or save up for a M2 kit

This is my 2nd plan:

. Get Fighter kit or Bulldog kit

. Then get Predator kit

. Save up for a M2 kit ( Firewall, Tornado, Fireworks, Pitbull , Glaze, or Minotaur )

I currently have 13.9k and I only have Universal Soldier kit , M0 Hunter, and M0 Smoky in my garage.

I earn about 5k-15k crystals every week, I got this week's amount of crystals since Tanki gave me a beginners boost. I catch goldboxes about 45% of the time and I rank up on an average of every 4 days around these ranks

I`m not sure if I should take something away from the 1st or 2nd plan and i`m not sure what plan to follow.

Any advice is appreciated, thanks!

Edited July 4, 2016 by Spiral_Beam

Schroedinger_Cat · July 4, 2016

I`m wondering what to get that is good for-

- Brest CTF

- Polygon CP

- Sandbox ( All battle modes )

- Serpuhov CTF and TDM

- Noise CTF

- Highland ( All battle modes )

- Molotov CTF and TDM

- Barda ( All battle modes )

- Farm CTF

Please keep in mind that Highland, Molotov, Barda and Farm are less popular maps at higher ranks and you might have problems with finding games on them. Most popular maps from your list are: Polygon, Sandbox and Noise - you can always find a few games on these.

However, if you still want a combo which works for also Brest or Barda maps, it's better to avoid heavy hulls.

I also advise you not to buy more than 1-2 M1 kits. One should be enough, buy a second if you really must have it. The reason is that the more crystals you spend on M1 stuff, the less crystals you will have to buy an M2 kit.

This is my 1st plan:

. Get Keeper kit or Tsunami kit

. Then get Fighter kit or Bulldog ( Only get Bulldog if you purchased Keeper )

. Then get Predator kit or save up for a M2 kit

Both, Keeper and Tsunami are decent M1 kits. Tsunami has better paint, but is also more defensive and costs almost twice as much as Keeper. IMO, fighter is better than Bulldog. And Predator is probably better than both of them. From that list, you will be able to buy only Keeper soon. All other kits cost 2-4x more than Keeper. So, my advice is to buy Keeper and then save for another M1 kit, or M2 kit.

This is my 2nd plan:

. Get Fighter kit or Bulldog kit

. Then get Predator kit

. Save up for a M2 kit ( Firewall, Tornado, Fireworks, Pitbull , Glaze, or Minotaur )

I would call this plan more pro, because it requires playing longer with M0. It is possible of course (I played with M0 till Warrant Officer 5), but requires some skill and knowledge. However, I am not sure if you need 2 of these kits. I would go for Predator or Fighter.

Also, Tornado is not that great. Not much use of it on Polygon or Noise maps.

I earn about 5k-15k crystals every week, I got this week's amount of crystals since Tanki gave me a beginners boost. I catch goldboxes about 45% of the time (...)

How long are you playing? You got 14k crystals and spent almost nothing so far, which means you play for 1-2 weeks only. ;) Is it your first account?

(...) i`m not sure what plan to follow.

Well, if you are not sure of your skills (game will become harder now, less and less noobs who cannot drive or turn their turrets), follow the first plan. Otherwise, follow the 2nd one. You might also consider replacing Keeper kit with Vampire or Firefly (I would say Firefly is better), or even just buy firebird M1 separately (it costs 7k crystals only). Vampire and Firefly will work well on most maps from your list.

AKSakshu11 · July 4, 2016

Hi Guys n Girls....

I wanted to ask y'all one thing.

does Thunder m1 work well enough in Lieutenant ranks? Because I am currently low on crystals and need just 2.5k to 3k xp to rank up. I thought to save up n buy predator kit, although I know that I should have bought it long before, but.....I was just a new player n didn't know much about tanki. If your reviews for predator are good, I'll save up for predator because I can also pair it with my m1 hulls- Mammoth, Titan n Viking. If thunder m1 is not good, then i'll buy some freeze m2 kit, but anyhow, I have to save.... :P

Please counsel me if u can

Thanks

With Regards

AKS

Spiral_Beam · July 4, 2016

Please keep in mind that Highland, Molotov, Barda and Farm are less popular maps at higher ranks and you might have problems with finding games on them. Most popular maps from your list are: Polygon, Sandbox and Noise - you can always find a few games on these.

However, if you still want a combo which works for also Brest or Barda maps, it's better to avoid heavy hulls.

I also advise you not to buy more than 1-2 M1 kits. One should be enough, buy a second if you really must have it. The reason is that the more crystals you spend on M1 stuff, the less crystals you will have to buy an M2 kit.

Both, Keeper and Tsunami are decent M1 kits. Tsunami has better paint, but is also more defensive and costs almost twice as much as Keeper. IMO, fighter is better than Bulldog. And Predator is probably better than both of them. From that list, you will be able to buy only Keeper soon. All other kits cost 2-4x more than Keeper. So, my advice is to buy Keeper and then save for another M1 kit, or M2 kit.

I would call this plan more pro, because it requires playing longer with M0. It is possible of course (I played with M0 till Warrant Officer 5), but requires some skill and knowledge. However, I am not sure if you need 2 of these kits. I would go for Predator or Fighter.

Also, Tornado is not that great. Not much use of it on Polygon or Noise maps.

How long are you playing? You got 14k crystals and spent almost nothing so far, which means you play for 1-2 weeks only. ;) Is it your first account?

Well, if you are not sure of your skills (game will become harder now, less and less noobs who cannot drive or turn their turrets), follow the first plan. Otherwise, follow the 2nd one. You might also consider replacing Keeper kit with Vampire or Firefly (I would say Firefly is better), or even just buy firebird M1 separately (it costs 7k crystals only). Vampire and Firefly will work well on most maps from your list.

thanks for the feedback, So do I get Firefly, then save for a M2 kit?, or how about getting Vampire , getting M1 Firebird , then saving for a M2 kit?, Also, I`m willing to save directly for a M2 kit , This isn't my first account :lol: I have almost 5 more accounts around Major, I just made all there passwords something I cant remember because I didnt want to play on failure accounts

Edited July 4, 2016 by Spiral_Beam

III_Dope_III · July 4, 2016

thanks for the feedback, So do I get Firefly, then save for a M2 kit?, or how about getting Vampire , getting M1 Firebird , then saving for a M2 kit?, Also, I`m willing to save directly for a M2 kit , This isn't my first account :lol: I have almost 5 more accounts around Major, I just made all there passwords something I cant remember because I didnt want to play on failure accounts

My alt is with 17k cry :P

i would recommend buying fighter or corsair and then save for an m2 kit

i did that around wo1-1st lt if you dont buy anything you will have around 250k ish trust meh

Edited July 4, 2016 by III_Dope_III

Schroedinger_Cat · July 4, 2016

Hi Guys n Girls....

I wanted to ask y'all one thing.

does Thunder m1 work well enough in Lieutenant ranks? Because I am currently low on crystals and need just 2.5k to 3k xp to rank up. I thought to save up n buy predator kit, although I know that I should have bought it long before, but.....I was just a new player n didn't know much about tanki. If your reviews for predator are good, I'll save up for predator because I can also pair it with my m1 hulls- Mammoth, Titan n Viking. If thunder m1 is not good, then i'll buy some freeze m2 kit, but anyhow, I have to save.... :P

Please counsel me if u can

Thanks

With Regards

AKS

I have not bought Predator kit nor Thunder M1, but others say it is quite good. Predator has a bad paint though. However, you got enough M1 equipment IMO and you should save for an M2 kit.

thanks for the feedback, So do I get Firefly, then save for a M2 kit?, or how about getting Vampire , getting M1 Firebird , then saving for a M2 kit?, Also, I`m willing to save directly for a M2 kit , This isn't my first account :lol: I have almost 5 more accounts around Major, I just made all there passwords something I cant remember because I didnt want to play on failure accounts

You are welcome.

So, you are not a total noob now. ;) In this case I suggest buying one M1 kit (if any, I bought Boar kit at WO5 without buying any M1 earlier), preferably a cheap one (Keeper, Vampire or Firefly) and save up for an M2 kit. If you buy a strong M2 kit right after you unlock it + a few MUs (I suggest buying not more than 10-15 MUs on M2 stuff), you will dominate the battles for quite a long time. If I were you, I would probably just buy Firefly, but buying Vampire + Firebird or Keeper + Firebird seem to be good options too (Titan + Firebird works well on small maps like Hill, Island, Arena, might work well on Polygon, I didn't see it there though). Wasp + isida is bad for Polygon, because it dies quickly. Wasp + Firebird also dies quickly, but kills more enemies (in CP mode in particular). However, Wasp + Isida might be better for Brest, Sandbox, Serpuhov and Barda (self-healing helps when capturing flags). Anyway, before you make a decision, wait more opinions. I am not an "Alpha and Omega of TO". ;)

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Edit: If anyone is curious: I ranked up recently, got 536k crystals ATM, bought only Boar kit and a dozen of MUs on hull and turret + 3 or 4 on paint. One can earn more if does daily missions only (I earned a lot of experience on some days). Investing in Firebird M1 turret or a cheap M1 kit might be more profitable than not buying any M1 equipment or might be not. Can't tell it for sure. Saying it to help you plan your own purchases.

2nd Edit: I am not sure if Lizard kit is available to you, but buying it at the lowest ranks is a good idea. You get an M1 hull + anti-rico paint + rico M0, which is nice for the lowest ranks.

Edited July 4, 2016 by Schroedinger_Cat

Spiral_Beam · July 4, 2016

My alt is with 17k cry :P

i would recommend buying fighter or corsair and then save for an m2 kit

i did that around wo1-1st lt if you dont buy anything you will have around 250k ish trust meh

nice, so should I get fighter kit/ corsair , or should I directly save

Spiral_Beam · July 4, 2016

What if I just get Hooligan or Blizzard kit, ten save for a M2 kit?

Schroedinger_Cat · July 4, 2016

What if I just get Hooligan or Blizzard kit, ten save for a M2 kit?

I don't have much experience with freeze, so cannot tell how good it is at M1. I think it is good, but that's only an opinion of a frozen guy, not the one who freezes. ;) Hornet is a good hull for freeze, Storm is a nice ant-firebird paint. Firebird is one of most popular turrets, so the paint will definetely help you.

Hooligan has a bad paint - shaft is not a big threat, unless you are playing on Brest or Highways maps. Many noobs use shaft, but it is easy to knock off their aim. However, hornet-smoky needs a lot of skill to be used efficiently.

Spiral_Beam · July 4, 2016

I have not bought Predator kit nor Thunder M1, but others say it is quite good. Predator has a bad paint though. However, you got enough M1 equipment IMO and you should save for an M2 kit.

You are welcome.

So, you are not a total noob now. ;) In this case I suggest buying one M1 kit (if any, I bought Boar kit at WO5 without buying any M1 earlier), preferably a cheap one (Keeper, Vampire or Firefly) and save up for an M2 kit. If you buy a strong M2 kit right after you unlock it + a few MUs (I suggest buying not more than 10-15 MUs on M2 stuff), you will dominate the battles for quite a long time. If I were you, I would probably just buy Firefly, but buying Vampire + Firebird or Keeper + Firebird seem to be good options too (Titan + Firebird works well on small maps like Hill, Island, Arena, might work well on Polygon, I didn't see it there though). Wasp + isida is bad for Polygon, because it dies quickly. Wasp + Firebird also dies quickly, but kills more enemies (in CP mode in particular). However, Wasp + Isida might be better for Brest, Sandbox, Serpuhov and Barda (self-healing helps when capturing flags). Anyway, before you make a decision, wait more opinions. I am not an "Alpha and Omega of TO". ;)

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Edit: If anyone is curious: I ranked up recently, got 536k crystals ATM, bought only Boar kit and a dozen of MUs on hull and turret + 3 or 4 on paint. One can earn more if does daily missions only (I earned a lot of experience on some days). Investing in Firebird M1 turret or a cheap M1 kit might be more profitable than not buying any M1 equipment or might be not. Can't tell it for sure. Saying it to help you plan your own purchases.

2nd Edit: I am not sure if Lizard kit is available to you, but buying it at the lowest ranks is a good idea. You get an M1 hull + anti-rico paint + rico M0, which is nice for the lowest ranks.

Thanks, I`ll wait for more opinions, because I still got 15.9k

Spiral_Beam · July 5, 2016

Thanks, I`ll wait for more opinions, because I still got 15.9k

Actually... I know its only been about 4 hours but I`m running out of time since I have 22.2k right now

Seargent_Death · July 5, 2016

That's good! :)

I know. I cannot tell you which combo is best, I am not that experienced. However, I think I can tell which combos are good and which are bad. OK, if you are going to buy kits, the problem is way easier. So, your question should be: which kit to buy. ;)

Do not be afraid to buy a turret you never used. You can always create a new account, buy the same turret at M0, get the basic experience and then buy a kit with this turret on your main account. :)

You probably should see the turrets/hulls section also. The turrets are discussed there, so you can learn more about how much better the higher modification is.

Well, in most cases facing a higher modification tank is hard. You said exactly the same thing later, when you mentioned destroying all m0 tanks. ;) Hoverwer, it is true that some combos are not doomed to fail vs higher modification tanks. For example, M1 hunter-twins can win vs M2 wasp-fire if the fire is spotted early enough. It all depends on the situation.

On the contrary, at least half of that stuff is considered by you as a waste. And IMO, just one M1 combo would be enough. But do not worry about it. Every newbie buys as much as (s)he can, simply because of curiosity or because got wrecked by and experienced player. I remember when I started playing for the first time (on another account) - I got wrecked by a guy with railgun, so I bought railgun and it turned out, I lack skill to hit anyone. ;) I got wrecked by isida, so I bought isida. I got wrecked by firebird, so I bought firebird. And so on...

It was probably your bet purchase so far. :) IMO, firebird M1 has a very good power to price ratio among M1 turrets.

Really? ;) I could afford "Boar" kit (which has M2 hull and M2 turret) at Warrant Officer 5 rank (2 ranks lower than yours). I was lucky to buy it during a sale, so I saved additional ~15,000 crystals. So, I had an M2/M2 tank earlier than you started thinking about saving for M2. Do you still think it was foolish? ;) Many players laughed at me then, but when I finally bought the kit I was dominating nearly any battle. Because all others had M1 tanks. Of course, it was a bit hard at WO3 - WO5 ranks, but definetely worth it. And I wouldn't do it if I didn't have experience from my previous account. Skills can compensate worse equipment to some extent. Also, if you join battles, in which your rank is highest allowed, you increase your chances for high score (if other players have same rank as you or lower, they have worse tanks on avarage than in case when your rank is lowest). Believe me, you do not really need more than one M1 and one M2 combo. However this might be boring, I can understand that.

Just like an M2 tank can destroy you easily. ;) However, the biggest differences in power are between M0 and M1. An experienced player with an M0 tank can easily destroy M1 newbie though.

Excellent! :)

I never said that firebird is bad for Hill. On the contrary, it's one of best turrets there.

I can assure you that it will not work vs more experienced players. Railgunners are wrecked easily on Hill map, especially if enemies are using hammer, rico or twins.

You seem to know a lot already. I cannot help you much then. In particular, I cannot point the best M2 combo/kit. Maybe someone else will?

Yes, firebird M2 is quite strong. However, the tactic depends on map you play. For example, on Polygon CP you should just go to the point and use all your napalm to burn the crowd there. In most cases you will not survive long enough to reload. ;) But you can still destroy a few tanks for the price of one life of yours.

Well,firebird can be used on large maps too. You need a light hull though. You need to sneak to the enemy base. If you succeed, you can cause a lot of havoc. ;) For example, on Brest or Highways maps there is a big number of shaft/railgun campers. If you can reach them, you destroy one after another. Works well on Sepruhov or Rio also. Basically, all you need to do is make an surprise attack, on a bunch of enemies preferably.

If you are a newbie, it would be probably better if you bought an M2/M2 or M2/M3 kit. I cannot suggest buying any, since I got only "Boar" (which is great and can be successfully used till Brigadier at least). Whether you find my opinions valuable or not, be aware of some facts. Thunder is good, but at some point many players will have thunder protection paints (players at Brigadier ranks and higher, but you will start meeting them soon, since they will be in your rank range). At this point you might end up with a turret, which is no longer as good as it was 2 ranks earlier. Since you still need to earn crystals, I suggest an M2/M2 or M2/M3 kit which is unlocked late, and then buy and M3/M3 kit which is also unlocked late. In other words, your new M2/M2 or M2/M3 kit must be good enough to get to General rank. The other option is to buy a cheap M2 kit and then buy a cheap M3 kit unlocked early, but I am not sure if you can earn crystals fast enough. I cannot guranatee the following ones are good enough, but they are worth being considered (random order):

1. "Boar" - I have made a comment on this kit already. I will just add one thing - Dictator is very good for catching gold boxes on small and medium maps (might be too slow for maps like Kungur if the gold box is dropped far). I was able to get even 10 gold boxes per week sometimes.

2. "Aborigine" - looks like a decent combo

3. "Mountain" - additional fire protection paint needed, Marine not enough IMO.

4. "Atlas" - never had it, but many players say it is one of strongest M2 kits with a very good paint

5. "Firewall" - just as you said, fire m2 is very strong, hunter is a good compromise between speed and durability, which makes this kit quite good for small and medium maps you like. I would suggest it to you.

6. "Jam" - it is a new kit, but looks interesting. Has a decent paint. And dictator again.

7. "Vesuvius" - similar to "Mountain", just less HP and more speed.

8. "Firebolt" - Wasp M2 is much better than Hornet M2 (similar amount of HP, much more speed). One wasp per team is good even for Hill map to make a quck capture. However, on medium or bigger maps you might get destroyed before you reach your enemy, so it requires "how to survive" skill. ;)

9. "Stinger" - quite cheap and good M2 kit. Works best on rather big maps (light hull, a paint which protects from long range turrets). If you can buy it soon, maybe you will save enough crystals to buy an M3 kit at Brigadier rank.

10. "Anaconda" - good turret and hull, but weak paint.

11. "Minotaur" or "Ram" - the only difference is the hull. Both are quite good, however many say Atlas is better.

12. "Mosquito" - if you really are not so bad with rail, maybe this one is for you? However, it will not work well on Noise or Polygon maps...

13. "Ant" - decent paint, good hull and turret. It be successfully used for a long time, but needs some "how to survive" skill again. ;) Not so good for Polygon.

If I were you, I would probably choose #4 or #9.

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Edit: One more thing. If you want to have more crystals, slow down your progress. Do only daily missions and change those which grant you supplies only (the first change is for free, not worth to pay for more). I understand that you want to play actually, but... You can create more accounts, experiment there with new weapons and use your experience to spend crystals on the main account as efficiently as possible. If you rush, you end up with a small amount of crystals, a weak tank and high rank.

I have heard that like the top M2 turrets are Smoky, Firebird, Twins. The M2 version of Smoky is the best of its modifications in terms of how it has become stronger, this is the same with Firebird. In every modification of Twins it has a good increase in strength so it is good at M2 as well. If there are any other good M2 turrets please mention them.

I was thinking of buying either the Northerner kit, the Minotaur kit, the Annihilator kit, the Firewall kit, or the Jam kit.

The Northerner kit since M2 Smoky is the best of its modifications in terms of how much the stats have increased. M2 Viking is just like M2 Smoky since it is the best of its modifications. The Winter paint is also quite good as it protects against 4 turrets and has large protection against pesky Shafts.

Minotaur kit since M2 Twins is very strong with around 60 DPS. M2 Viking I have already stated above. Rhino paint is not that good since it only protects against Hammer and Vulcan but those turrets are like the least used in battles. There may be 1 or 2 in every battle but there are other turrets that are more popular.

Annihilator kit since I have experience with Thunder and it is reasonable for an M2 turret though the best modification for Thunder in terms of the stats increase is M1. But like you said there are protection paints against it so it could become weak. M2 Viking I have already stated above. Atom is a good paint for Thunder since it protects against close range turrets and since you can do self damage with Thunder people are always trying to press against me for that reason so Atom will protect against close range. It would be better if it had Thunder protection since that would reduce the self damage.

Firewall kit since M2 Firebird is amazing. Hunter M2 though is not that much stronger than its M1 version so it is kind of weak compared to other M2 hulls like Viking. Since M2 Hunter is close to its M1 version I might think of getting the Firebolt kit since M2 Wasp is the best of its modifications in terms of its stats increase and I agree with you that it is better than Hornet since it almost has the exact same protection but more speed. It could be easy to flip though from enemy fire but it is still great. Also the Firebolt kit is cheaper than the Firewall kit so it looks like the better option. Rustle is good since it will protect me from Thunder blasts and since I will be going up close and personal with enemies it protects against Isida and Freeze so it's good.

Jam kit since it has M2 Twins which I have stated above. Dictator is good for catching gold boxes because of its tall frame and it can also hit targets that are higher than your range although because of its tall frame it can be a bigger target. But M2 Dictator is not that much stronger than its M1 version in terms of its stats increase (only 34 HP increase) so the Minotaur kit might be better. The paint provides good protection from enemy Twins, Thunder and Vulcan so it is good.

With the Atlas kit it has M2 Smoky which is good and M2 Titan is the best of its modifications in terms of its stats increase. But it might be kind of bad in long maps since Smoky's damage decreases with distance and Titan is slow so might have a hard time. In CTF mode it will only be useful for defending (for obvious reasons) but if someone steals the flag you can't really go after them since Titan is slow. And just defending is kind of boring. In CP mode it will be hard to reach the points but when you eventually get to one you can probably hold that point for long. The Loam paint provides good protection from firebird which could be handy since Titan is slow. But it provides minimal protection (10%) against Freeze, Ricochet, and Thunder.

Thank you for replying to my posts, you have actually helped quite a bit and your information is useful. Now if you could please reply to this I will be grateful.

M1A2_USA · July 5, 2016

I am planning to buy stinger kit (although it is unlocked at wo4). So is it worth spending 108k crystals or should i save up for something else...plz tell

ABOINJAS · July 5, 2016

hello guys

right now i have rico m2 and dictator m2

should i get another m2 kit or just wait till m3 kits?

Schroedinger_Cat · July 5, 2016

I am planning to buy stinger kit (although it is unlocked at wo4). So is it worth spending 108k crystals or should i save up for something else...plz tell

"Stinger" is a good kit for that price. But it all depends on what maps you are playing on most often. How many crystals have you got now? You will unlock "Stinger" at next rank, but if you got little crystals now, there might be better kits available by the tame you save up.

hello guys

right now i have rico m2 and dictator m2

should i get another m2 kit or just wait till m3 kits?

I am still using rico M2 ad dictator M2 and it works fine. I will buy an M3 kit soon, waiting for rotation. So, better save up for M3.

The Northerner kit since M2 Smoky is the best of its modifications in terms of how much the stats have increased. M2 Viking is just like M2 Smoky since it is the best of its modifications. The Winter paint is also quite good as it protects against 4 turrets and has large protection against pesky Shafts.

However smoky-viking is a good combo, the Winter paint is not that good. There are not many shafts at medium ranks (unless playing on Highways, Brest or Monte Carlo maps). Shaft is most popular at newbie ranks. Furthermore, Winter has average thunder protection and protections from 2 another turrets, but they are negligible (5% only). If you want a kit with smoky M2, better buy "Aborigine" or "Atlas". Both have very good paints and decent hulls.

Minotaur kit since M2 Twins is very strong with around 60 DPS. M2 Viking I have already stated above. Rhino paint is not that good since it only protects against Hammer and Vulcan but those turrets are like the least used in battles. There may be 1 or 2 in every battle but there are other turrets that are more popular.

Well, hammer and vulcan become more popular later, so you must decide how long are you going to use your M2 kit? Or, in other words, what will be the first M3 kit you buy? If was buying a kit with M2 twins, it would be probably "Jam" - it has a much better paint, Dictator hull is slower, but has more HP, so it is good for CP battles or defending flag. Unfortunately, it is too slow for capturing flags on medium or large maps.

Annihilator kit since I have experience with Thunder and it is reasonable for an M2 turret though the best modification for Thunder in terms of the stats increase is M1. But like you said there are protection paints against it so it could become weak. M2 Viking I have already stated above. Atom is a good paint for Thunder since it protects against close range turrets and since you can do self damage with Thunder people are always trying to press against me for that reason so Atom will protect against close range. It would be better if it had Thunder protection since that would reduce the self damage.

Well, people start using anti-thunder paints at colonel/brigadier ranks (and not all of them), so you have some time. However, atom is not that good. It has a good protection from hammer, average protection from fire, but protections from twins and freeze are lower... You would need to buy some MUs to make this paint average. If you want a kit with thunder M2, "Guard", "Simoom" (unlocked 2 ranks earlier!) and maybe "Fortress" are better options. However, these kits got heavier hulls, so they are better for camping behind a wall, not driving over the map.

Firewall kit since M2 Firebird is amazing. Hunter M2 though is not that much stronger than its M1 version so it is kind of weak compared to other M2 hulls like Viking. Since M2 Hunter is close to its M1 version I might think of getting the Firebolt kit since M2 Wasp is the best of its modifications in terms of its stats increase and I agree with you that it is better than Hornet since it almost has the exact same protection but more speed. It could be easy to flip though from enemy fire but it is still great. Also the Firebolt kit is cheaper than the Firewall kit so it looks like the better option. Rustle is good since it will protect me from Thunder blasts and since I will be going up close and personal with enemies it protects against Isida and Freeze so it's good.

Well, Hunter is still faster than Viking. And Firebird needs a fast hull. I have seen many Firewalls and they are doing great, so yeah, it is a good kit. The paint is good also. Firebolt is good also, so it is up to you which one you chose. Basically, the protections you need depend on the map. On maps like Serpuhov, Wave or Brest, wasp-fire needs long-range turrets protections (or you die before you reach the enemy). On maps like Hill or Polygon close-range turrets protections are better.

With the Atlas kit it has M2 Smoky which is good and M2 Titan is the best of its modifications in terms of its stats increase. But it might be kind of bad in long maps since Smoky's damage decreases with distance and Titan is slow so might have a hard time. In CTF mode it will only be useful for defending (for obvious reasons) but if someone steals the flag you can't really go after them since Titan is slow. And just defending is kind of boring. In CP mode it will be hard to reach the points but when you eventually get to one you can probably hold that point for long. The Loam paint provides good protection from firebird which could be handy since Titan is slow. But it provides minimal protection (10%) against Freeze, Ricochet, and Thunder.

Well, it all depends on maps... For example, on Noise or Gravity maps Titan is OK when capturing flags (because of big pushing power and because light hulls cannot reach their max speed). When it comes to CP, you need to chose a map where the point(s) is/are close to spawning area. Titan is fast enough for Polygon CP (most popular map-mode), Sandbox CP or Noise CP. It is definetely a good kit.

A general remark - don't look only on how much better an M2 hull is than M1 of same type. The overall picture is also important - what rank they are unlocked at, how good is one M2 hull compared to another M2 hull.

So far I advised you which kit to buy if you want to have a certain turret. However, if you want Viking M2 more than a particular turret, I would suggest "Minotaur" or "Northerner". At medium ranks people are just using the paints they have in garrage, not best paint suited for current battle. Having a good paint is nice, but not most important IMO. Another advantage of Viking hull (and the 2 mentioned kits in fact) is that it can be used on nearly any map, so you don't get bored because your combo works only on 2-3 maps and completely sucks elsewhere.

Edited July 5, 2016 by Schroedinger_Cat

Spiral_Beam · July 5, 2016

Yes or no ??

If you want M3 Mammy get it from Eyjafjallajökull , Destroyer , or Giant kit

Seargent_Death · July 5, 2016

hello guys

right now i have rico m2 and dictator m2

should i get another m2 kit or just wait till m3 kits?

I think that should last you until you get to the m3 kits

Spiral_Beam · July 5, 2016

I`ll just get vampire kit and striker kit , then m1 fire and then I`ll save for a M2 kit

Seargent_Death · July 5, 2016

However smoky-viking is a good combo, the Winter paint is not that good. There are not many shafts at medium ranks (unless playing on Highways, Brest or Monte Carlo maps). Shaft is most popular at newbie ranks. Furthermore, Winter has average thunder protection and protections from 2 another turrets, but they are negligible (5% only). If you want a kit with smoky M2, better buy "Aborigine" or "Atlas". Both have very good paints and decent hulls.

Well, hammer and vulcan become more popular later, so you must decide how long are you going to use your M2 kit? Or, in other words, what will be the first M3 kit you buy? If was buying a kit with M2 twins, it would be probably "Jam" - it has a much better paint, Dictator hull is slower, but has more HP, so it is good for CP battles or defending flag. Unfortunately, it is too slow for capturing flags on medium or large maps.

Well, people start using anti-thunder paints at colonel/brigadier ranks (and not all of them), so you have some time. However, atom is not that good. It has a good protection from hammer, average protection from fire, but protections from twins and freeze are lower... You would need to buy some MUs to make this paint average. If you want a kit with thunder M2, "Guard", "Simoom" (unlocked 2 ranks earlier!) and maybe "Fortress" are better options. However, these kits got heavier hulls, so they are better for camping behind a wall, not driving over the map.

Well, Hunter is still faster than Viking. And Firebird needs a fast hull. I have seen many Firewalls and they are doing great, so yeah, it is a good kit. The paint is good also. Firebolt is good also, so it is up to you which one you chose. Basically, the protections you need depend on the map. On maps like Serpuhov, Wave or Brest, wasp-fire needs long-range turrets protections (or you die before you reach the enemy). On maps like Hill or Polygon close-range turrets protections are better.

Well, it all depends on maps... For example, on Noise or Gravity maps Titan is OK when capturing flags (because of big pushing power and because light hulls cannot reach their max speed). When it comes to CP, you need to chose a map where the point(s) is/are close to spawning area. Titan is fast enough for Polygon CP (most popular map-mode), Sandbox CP or Noise CP. It is definetely a good kit.

A general remark - don't look only on how much better an M2 hull is than M1 of same type. The overall picture is also important - what rank they are unlocked at, how good is one M2 hull compared to another M2 hull.

So far I advised you which kit to buy if you want to have a certain turret. However, if you want Viking M2 more than a particular turret, I would suggest "Minotaur" or "Northerner". At medium ranks people are just using the paints they have in garrage, not best paint suited for current battle. Having a good paint is nice, but not most important IMO. Another advantage of Viking hull (and the 2 mentioned kits in fact) is that it can be used on nearly any map, so you don't get bored because your combo works only on 2-3 maps and completely sucks elsewhere.

I don't only look at how much better an M2 hull is better than M1 of the same type. I look at which is its best modification out of all based on the stats. I also look at other things like the price, etc.

I have decided on getting either the Northerner kit, the Minotaur kit, the Firebolt kit, or the Jam kit.

Schroedinger_Cat · July 5, 2016

I`ll just get vampire kit and striker kit , then m1 fire and then I`ll save for a M2 kit

That is too many IMO, but do whatever you want.

BTW, I bough Vampire on my alt (first sergeant rank) and it is better than I thought. However, most of my enemies have stil M0 stuff.

Phoenix.Rising · July 5, 2016

If you want M3 Mammy get it from Eyjafjallajökull , Destroyer , or Giant kit

Gizmos cannot buy kits.

Phoenix.Raised · July 5, 2016

Gizmos cannot buy kits.

Yes, they can - supplies kits :)

Spiral_Beam · July 5, 2016

Gizmos cannot buy kits.

whoops :/

Spiral_Beam · July 5, 2016

I bought it at Staff Sergeant on alt. ( name = @Total_SkiIl ) and it was waaaayy too OP as enemies had M0 stuff and it still is I bought Striker to pair with Isi. Btw, I am Sergeant-Major atm wanted to rank a bit.

yea, I got the vampire/ striker idea from you :ph34r:

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