What to buy? Which is better?

[MentallyDeranged 740]

Guys warning: it's true that firebid is now op,but as developers said soon rebalance continuous,and surely firebid will become weaker like isida and smoky.

[bkn289 6]

Both are ok,I would say go with twins,try to get alteration after that so it will be unstoppable. GL

Okay, how much does the alteration cost and what does it do?

 

well first why are you worrying about highend M2 kits at Wo2 anyways? anyway....... I have faced Minotaur and they are tough little stnkers to fight. but on the other hand I personally have Firewall and it is amazing. a little slower then I prefer but it is great. I suggest Firewall but to get its full potential you MUST get the Firebird Alteration, it make M2 fire seem like M4 fire

I only have 6 more (5 more if i can get 500exp...no sweat) ranks to get from 8.5k crystals to 200k crystals. I think it's a pretty good time to start saving. Again, how much is the alteration and what does it do?

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Okay, how much does the alteration cost and what does it do?

 

I only have 6 more (5 more if i can get 500exp...no sweat) ranks to get from 8.5k crystals to 200k crystals. I think it's a pretty good time to start saving. Again, how much is the alteration and what does it do?

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Alterations

 

Twins M1 alteration: 50k

Reloading: -20% 

Projectile speed: +100% 

Range of min damage: +100% 

 

Firebird M2 alteration: 100k 

Energy consumption: +50% 

Max temperature: +200% 

Rate of heating: +300% 

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Are you guys sure the Twins alteration is good?  :huh:

 

I've read it and to be honest it doesn't sound very good.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Guys warning: it's true that firebid is now op,but as developers said soon rebalance continuous,and surely firebid will become weaker like isida and smoky.

Actually, firebird got nerfed. The burn pretty much disappeared, and the charge is really short now.

 

well first why are you worrying about highend M2 kits at Wo2 anyways? anyway....... I have faced Minotaur and they are tough little stnkers to fight. but on the other hand I personally have Firewall and it is amazing. a little slower then I prefer but it is great. I suggest Firewall but to get its full potential you MUST get the Firebird Alteration, it make M2 fire seem like M4 fire

The alteration now feels just like normal burning time because firebird's burn got nerfed tremendously.  Also, since the charge is already short, with the alteration you run out of charge in 2.5 seconds, which is a really small amount of time.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I fought vs a skilled M2 firebird with alternation today.

The burn is stronger then before without alternation. With 25% fire protection I could hardly compete with it; but oftenthe afterburn got me killed.

 

The pilot said that the thing is overpowered. I guess they will balance the alternation, as it makes the firebird overall stronger

Edited November 3, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Are you guys sure the Twins alteration is good?  :huh:

 

I've read it and to be honest it doesn't sound very good.

Well I haven't used it, but it has a fast reload anyway, so I doubt -20% reload will be the worst thing ever. Also, speed of projectiles and range of min damage helps more for long distance gameplay.

 

So it seems like it will help out a lot for medium/long distances, with damage and speed, but not so much with close range, due to the reload.

[bkn289 6]

Well I haven't used it, but it has a fast reload anyway, so I doubt -20% reload will be the worst thing ever. Also, speed of projectiles and range of min damage helps more for long distance gameplay.

 

So it seems like it will help out a lot for medium/long distances, with damage and speed, but not so much with close range, due to the reload.

Its probably good on larger maps, although you might want to switch it off for smaller ones.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

I wonder how effective is Grizzly TJ module -Smoky/Rail/Hammer? I'm starting to see this getting common...

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

 

 

The alteration now feels just like normal burning time because firebird's burn got nerfed tremendously. Also, since the charge is already short, with the alteration you run out of charge in 2.5 seconds, which is a really small amount of time.

it can still kill any M2 within that Two and a Half seconds (full charge into a heavy kills it with afterburn)

[Tani_S 736]

I fought vs a skilled M2 firebird with alternation today.

The burn is stronger then before without alternation. With 25% fire protection I could hardly compete with it; but oftenthe afterburn got me killed.

 

The pilot said that the thing is overpowered. I guess they will balance the alternation, as it makes the firebird overall stronger

 

I expected a nerf too, but they already changed the majority of the alterations, but kept the parameter of the fire alteration. So I guess they will keep it like it is for a while.

 

 

Its probably good on larger maps, although you might want to switch it off for smaller ones.

I tested the Twins alteration once in the test server and I think Rio is a perfect map for it. It feels like a double-barreled Rico.

Edited November 4, 2016 by Tani_S

[Cyborg 3,189]

I wonder how effective is Grizzly TJ module -Smoky/Rail/Hammer? I'm starting to see this getting common...

Im thinking of getting it too. Some of the most common turrets there. Although ny zeus lgc is doing well. Too many freezes and firebirds these days.

[MentallyDeranged 740]

Actually, firebird got nerfed. The burn pretty much disappeared, and the charge is really short now.

 

The alteration now feels just like normal burning time because firebird's burn got nerfed tremendously. Also, since the charge is already short, with the alteration you run out of charge in 2.5 seconds, which is a really small amount of time.

what the

All players say firebid is king now,gens started getting firebid ,and you say it got nerfed !!!!

 

Nerf:In video gaming, a nerf is a change to a game that makes something less effective or desirable

Edited November 4, 2016 by MentallyDeranged

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Im thinking of getting it too. Some of the most common turrets there. Although ny zeus lgc is doing well. Too many freezes and firebirds these days.

I'm not sure if I should go for it.

 

I have 43 prot in Ursa TB (smoky,rico,rail) & Max Nano LGC (Smoky, Rico, Hammer, Fire)..

[killing-task 4]

what the

All players say firebid is king now,gens started getting firebid ,and you say it got nerfed !!!!

 

Nerf:In video gaming, a nerf is a change to a game that makes something less effective or desirable

I bought fire m3 at the hallowen sale ,i had before fire m2 -which was great anyway :) ,firebird's heating rate was nerfed in half but the alteration compensate that now , overall firebird is better now because its damage was increased and the reload is faster now .

 

fire damage before and after  rebalance M3 64.94 →708.24 , M4 72 →840

 

fire reload  before and after  rebalance  M3  11.53 →6.024 , M4  11 →6.024

       

[MentallyDeranged 740]

So more damage. attention to some guys :)

Edited November 4, 2016 by MentallyDeranged

[bkn289 6]

I'm wondering, what are the most common/powerful m1/m2 turrets? I've been thinking of getting a protection for some time, but have never really gotten to it.

 

Also, assuming I do get minotaur kit, and get the twins alteration, which kit should I save for next? Should I save for another m2 kit or go for the m3's?

 

lol ik my rank seems small to be thinking about this  :wacko:

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Don't waste protection on M1s.. and I guess you fight not so many M2s yet.

Most low-tier protections are for vain, as the benefit you gain from them is not worth the precious crystals you pay for them.

 

As you drive a viking, it also makes no sense to get +10% rail or something, to sustain a further shot.

[Heles 9,220]

I'm wondering, what are the most common/powerful m1/m2 turrets? I've been thinking of getting a protection for some time, but have never really gotten to it.

 

Also, assuming I do get minotaur kit, and get the twins alteration, which kit should I save for next? Should I save for another m2 kit or go for the m3's?

 

lol ik my rank seems small to be thinking about this  :wacko:

TBH, there's no powerful turrets. Its just skills from the players.

 

Well for common turrets would be railgun 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

what the

All players say firebid is king now,gens started getting firebid ,and you say it got nerfed !!!!

 

Nerf:In video gaming, a nerf is a change to a game that makes something less effective or desirable

The burn time was the defining aspect. The burning was what got firebird a ton of kills.  Now that is taken away, and even the increased damage (which is not increased by much) is not enough compensation.  Plus, the penetration was taken away as well.

[bkn289 6]

Okay, I guess I'll just stick to mary then

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Smoky works really well for me as a support/attack turret mounted on a Viking. Now if I'm drugging...you want to avoid me. Yeah that's normally the case, but you really want to avoid me. The screen will fill with my name of the players I destroy.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Smoky works really well for me as a support/attack turret mounted on a Viking. Now if I'm drugging...you want to avoid me. Yeah that's normally the case, but you really want to avoid me. The screen will fill with my name of the players I destroy.

I remember when freeze still had the penetration...I was in a Poly CP, and by chance I picked up both DD and DA.  there was a mass of struggling tanks in the middle because a gold box was dropping there- I got 7 kills in 10 seconds :D  I am still unhappy that I cannot do that anymore :(

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

I remember when freeze still had the penetration...I was in a Poly CP, and by chance I picked up both DD and DA.  there was a mass of struggling tanks in the middle because a gold box was dropping there- I got 7 kills in 10 seconds :D  I am still unhappy that I cannot do that anymore :(

Yeah and now users with firebird and freeze with see a dip in k/d

 

I played a couple hour long battles on poly last night so mah k/d went down

[sm0ky 92]

Yeah and now users with firebird and freeze with see a dip in k/d

 

I played a couple hour long battles on poly last night so mah k/d went down

Poly CP is not good for anyone's K/D. It's almost equivalent to a TDM.