What to buy? Which is better?

[astroid28 1]

Hi

I'm saving for the Aborigine kit and I have 30k right now. I need to save 206k by Colonel but i would like to buy it latest when I'm Lieutenant Colonel. How would be the best way to get 206k by then? How should I play? What maps should I play? I want to be able to raise a lot of crystals without leveling-up too much so I could buy the kit. How should I this?

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Hi

I'm saving for the Aborigine kit and I have 30k right now. I need to save 206k by Colonel but i would like to buy it latest when I'm Lieutenant Colonel. How would be the best way to get 206k by then? How should I play? What maps should I play? I want to be able to raise a lot of crystals without leveling-up too much so I could buy the kit. How should I this?

Do contests and TTCs. I was able to get Voltage and Minotaur on their respective rank unlocks on my alt; so I'm sure you can afford it by Major.

[astroid28 1]

Do contests and TTCs. I was able to get Voltage and Minotaur on their respective rank unlocks on my alt; so I'm sure you can afford it by Major.

How do you do contests and what are TTCs?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I'm saving for the Aborigine kit and I have 30k right now. I need to save 206k by Colonel but i would like to buy it latest when I'm Lieutenant Colonel. How would be the best way to get 206k by then? How should I play? What maps should I play? I want to be able to raise a lot of crystals without leveling-up too much so I could buy the kit. How should I this?

should work past (332k) and before (390k) in about 9 weeks from now, which is the 2nd week in January.

 

 

 

Regaring crystals you have 30k now and need 206k. So you have to earn +176k crystals. Looking at your profile it seems you earn 1 crystals per exp. point; so you will have +176k experience by the time you can afford the kit.

Regarding experience points you have about 185k xp now. If I add those 176k xp you earn until you have the crystals needed, you will have a total of ~360k xp, which is past (332k) and before (390k).

As you make about 20k xp per week (like you do now), you will reach that in 9 weeks from now, which is the 2nd week in January.

Of course this works only, if your exp.gain and earnings develop like they did.

 

SALE:

You can expect a serious sale during the xmas/new year period (someone here will for sure know the dates from last year). If you _can_ purchase the kit during that sale, you save a little more (maybe 25k).

Then you would need to save up only 151k crystals, which means you don't need 9 weeks but 7.5 weeks (lets say 8 weeks).

 

Bad news are:

1. the sale starts in 7 weeks but you need 8 weeks to have enough crystals. If you want to have enough crystals by then, you need to earn 15% more = 23k xp per week = 23k crystals per week. Better go for 25..26k to be on the save side if something in your real life interferes.
2. The kits are not available all time, they are on a rotation sceme. You have to be _lucky_ to have your desired kit available during the sale. If you have bad luck it come a week earlier or a week later.. and you can not benefit from the sale. But.. this just means you have to wait a little longer with the crystals saved already.

If it would be my choice I would not stress me with "working" hard in a game that I play daily, in order to have some gear 2 weeks earlier. It's just a game.. and if you make it feel like work you stress yourself out. But it's up to you.

 

 

[Cyborg 3,189]

How do you do contests and what are TTCs?

Read the newspaper for contests. TTC is Tanki Thinking Challenge

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

@BlackWasp,

 

Earlier on,you mentioned the last 5 MUs on the Kodiak T-A wouldn't help much. What about if I think instead of Vulcan's burning time? Does +5 MU make any difference or its actually nothing much?

 

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Difficult choice about how much MUs should I make on Zeus LGC (30/50/30) & Clay LGC (42/50/38)to get max effectiveness...

Edited November 11, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

@BlackWasp,

 

Earlier on,you mentioned the last 5 MUs on the Kodiak T-A wouldn't help much. What about if I think instead of Vulcan's burning time? Does +5 MU make any difference or its actually nothing much?

I've no model about the heatup and cooldown time of a Vulcan, so I can not give you exact figures.

For a quick idea we could look into the values for gradual damage, which tell me

- that 45% protection gives you 180% survival time vs. gradual damage..

- while 50% protection gives you 200% survival time vs. gradual damage.

 

So 200 : 180 = ~1,10 = 110%    => so you gain 10% more survival time then you have now with your 45% module.

How long do you last now, 50sec maybe? It will be 55sec then.

Note that the survival time starts (roughly) when your tank is about to heat up. The several seconds free of heating at the beginning of your Vulcans firestorm do not count into it.

 

Once you've found out how much longer you can stand, then the next step is to think of how much damage you can deal in those additional 5 seconds. In theory you can almost kill one unprotected medium hull. But in real live on the battlefield, consider that maybe everyone in your scope is already dead anyways at this moment. You can answer this better then me.

This all together gives you an overall idea of the benefit that you gain.

Edited November 11, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

I've no model about the heatup and cooldown time of a Vulcan, so I can not give you exact figures.

For a quick idea we could look into the values for gradual damage, which tell me

- that 45% protection gives you 180% survival time vs. gradual damage..

- while 50% protection gives you 200% survival time vs. gradual damage.

 

So 200 : 180 = ~1,10 = 110% => so you gain 10% more survival time then you have now with your 45% module.

How long do you last now, 50sec maybe? It will be 55sec then.

Think of how much damage you can deal in those additional 5 seconds (you can almost kill one unprotected medium hull); but think also if you can usually deal it or if everyone is already dead by that moment anyways.

This gives you an idea of the benefit it gives you.

 

Note that the survival time starts (roughly) when your tank is about to heat up. The several seconds free of heating at the beginning of your Vulcans firetorm do not count into it.

In other words, the second the tank starts to heat up? The only problem is that mostly in Poly, I will be under direct fire often while heating up to fire. (Unlike in CTF which doesn't come under fire often.)

 

Currently, the situation is manageable, but I keep wondering if the extra 5 seconds or so is needed.(depending on team)

 

It always depends if the enemy uses Vulcan prot or using heavy hulls. It takes longer to dislodge them from the point. Light - Medium are not as bad as Heavy, which can be a nightmare to kill, especially if they are paired with Africa.

Edited November 11, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Well if in the meanwhile the enemy takes away half your health anyways, then those 5sec become 2,5 seconds...

 

It does not sound like a good deal to me, as long as you have other options to invest in.

Edited November 11, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Well if in the meanwhile the enemy takes away half your health anyways, then those 5sec become 2,5 seconds...

 

It does not sound like a good deal to me, as long as you have other options to invest in.

Other than that, I have 2 modules to think about, which is Zeus LGC (30/50/30) and Clay LGC (42/50/38).

 

For Thunder's SD... how to calculate the effectiveness of the module?

 

Funny thing about modules: They are so similar to each other, it was hard to pick.

 

Thank you for answering :)

Edited November 11, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Other than that, I have 2 modules to think about, which is Zeus LGC (30/50/30) and Clay LGC (42/50/38).

 

For Thunder's SD... how to calculate the effectiveness of the module?

 

Funny thing about modules: They are so similar to each other, it was hard to pick.

 

Thank you for answering :)

 

Do you even use Zeus (fire, freeze, Smoky) that often? Isn't your Badger T-F M3 (Fire, Freeze, Twins) more usefull on the maps you play?

For Clay you can upgrade to have about +10% more protection vs. Rails and vs. Thudners. I think we talked and calculated that Thunder and Rail topic in a former post (maybe regarding another module.. but the values where pretty much alike I think). You can look it up there, because we checked if it helps you to survive another shot.

 

I think it makes maybe sense to get your modules only as far, as you see a benefit by doing so. Beyond that point you can save the rest of your crystals for M3 alternations (will for sure come soon) and for supplies.

Edited November 11, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[bkn289 6]

Minotaur kit vs Northerner kit vs Firewall kit

 

Also I'm not sure if I can save enough money to buy them once I get to the rank high enough... Any tips on getting crystals?

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Minotaur kit vs Northerner kit vs Firewall kit

 

Also I'm not sure if I can save enough money to buy them once I get to the rank high enough... Any tips on getting crystals?

Contests, missions, 60 min battles  <_<, don't spend on anything at all.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Minotaur kit vs Northerner kit vs Firewall kit

 

Also I'm not sure if I can save enough money to buy them once I get to the rank high enough... Any tips on getting crystals?

Depends on what kind of battles/maps you play the most.

 

For crystals, keep up with your daily missions religiously. Sometimes you can complete 3 missions in one battle. Do not submit all of your completed missions at once. Just submit only one of them when your mission bar is blinking. You will get a new mission on the next reboot while the completed missions will still be locked in. Then just complete the new mission until the mission bar blinks again and submit one.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Depends on what kind of battles/maps you play the most.

 

For crystals, keep up with your daily missions religiously. Sometimes you can complete 3 missions in one battle. Do not submit all of your completed missions at once. Just submit only one of them when your mission bar is blinking. You will get a new mission on the next reboot while the completed missions will still be locked in. Then just complete the new mission until the mission bar blinks again and submit one.

Why only submit 1 completed mission per day/re-boot?

If you submit all completed missions you will get more new ones the next day = better chance for crystal missions.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

The hint (not claiming all missions rewards) is usefull for players that can not complete missions each day.

You keep finished - but not yet claimed - missions in stock, and use them on days where you cant complete other missions.

This in hope that the rewards at the end of the week is more, then the crystal missions you miss in the while beeing.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Minotaur kit vs Northerner kit vs Firewall kit

 

Also I'm not sure if I can save enough money to buy them once I get to the rank high enough... Any tips on getting crystals?

Use the free mission swap to try and get more crystal missions.

 

Only complete crystal missions - unless - the mission offers A LOT of supplies or seems easy to complete.

You want as little experience per crystal as possible. A 1-for-1 ratio is a decent goal.

 

Stop playing after you complete your daily missions - unless - you are in a battle with a good team and are gaining crystals equal to or greater than the experience you are gaining.

[wolverine848 13,097]

The hint (not claiming all missions rewards) is usefull for players that can not complete missions each day.

You keep finished - but not yet claimed - missions in stock, and use them on days where you cant complete other missions.

This in hope that the rewards at the end of the week is more, then the crystal missions you miss in the while beeing.

Was that alluded to earlier? I did not back-read...

In last post tanker just indicated trouble gaining crystals - as opposed to issue completing missions.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I also follow your strategy with my missions..

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Do you even use Zeus (fire, freeze, Smoky) that often? Isn't your Badger T-F M3 (Fire, Freeze, Twins) more usefull on the maps you play?

For Clay you can upgrade to have about +10% more protection vs. Rails and vs. Thudners. I think we talked and calculated that Thunder and Rail topic in a former post (maybe regarding another module.. but the values where pretty much alike I think). You can look it up there, because we checked if it helps you to survive another shot.

 

I think it makes maybe sense to get your modules only as far, as you see a benefit by doing so. Beyond that point you can save the rest of your crystals for M3 alternations (will for sure come soon) and for supplies.

I only use it when I'm desperate against smokies, freezes n fire, but it doesn't happen often. :P

 

But you're right... I hardly use it nowadays.

 

Again, thanks for answering. :)

Edited November 12, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[Sid2910 48]

okay i have 21k, I have the striker kit(smoky+viking) What should I buy next and I just ranked up.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

okay i have 21k, I have the striker kit(smoky+viking) What should I buy next and I just ranked up.

Save up for m2s.  The striker kit is a very versatile m1 kit and you really don't need anything else.  However, if you do want to buy another turret/hull, remember this: Never buy any modules, until you have a turret m3 and a hull m3.  THe m0, m1, and m2 modules that will be available to you for a while are worthless.

[Uranato 18]

Should I buy Mammoth M1 or save crystals for Titan M1 (Titan has more armor and speed than Mammoth at M1 and M2)?

[Adel 567]

Should I buy Mammoth M1 or save crystals for Titan M1 (Titan has more armor and speed than Mammoth at M1 and M2)?

Topic merged.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Adel
Ooops

[tankerkuldeep 739]

Topic closed.

Topic Merged.