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DarknessAssassin, I’m on mobile so I can’t quote but buy wasp. The overdrive is going to be good and the stats are what counts, not popularity.

im usually on mobile too, just tap on the post and a button to quote comes up on the bottom right of the post.

 

The overdrive for wasp seems ok, but very situational, it depends on the specifics e.g. damage, splash radius, impact etc. if the bomb cant even kill a medium hull then i think it will be pretty bad

 

hornet on the other hand, its overdrive can be used anywhere at any time to give an instant advantage to you and your whole team.

 

i have more experience with using hornet, i have literally never used wasp.

also consider that my main priority for buying a light hull is to play xpbp, in normal battles without drugging they are usually easy prey.

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xp or bp, which is better? and why?

ok this is opinion xp is better cause its got good gravity 

but bp which is wasp its can be flipped easy..its fast but its won't help.

and xp will be good in small and medium maps

but bp will be great in big maps !

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im usually on mobile too, just tap on the post and a button to quote comes up on the bottom right of the post.

 

The overdrive for wasp seems ok, but very situational, it depends on the specifics e.g. damage, splash radius, impact etc. if the bomb cant even kill a medium hull then i think it will be pretty bad

 

hornet on the other hand, its overdrive can be used anywhere at any time to give an instant advantage to you and your whole team.

 

i have more experience with using hornet, i have literally never used wasp.

also consider that my main priority for buying a light hull is to play xpbp, in normal battles without drugging they are usually easy prey.

Okay! That's very true. But wasp does have better stats. The only difference is that wasp doesn't have the drift of hornet. Which is a big difference. But I'm just the stat guy, not the gameplay guy. Musa is the experienced big boy.

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xp or bp, which is better? and why?

This is one of those it depends moments. If your play style is aggressive and fast paced with less camping; BP is a better fit. If your play style is strictly strategic and conservative ( more supportive in most cases), then XP is a better fit. BP gets flipped so much, even if you are a "pro" at it; the speed is a good bonus though (although it is much slower than it used to be). XP has drift, which in itself is both a disadvantage and an advantage depending how you use it in certain situations. XP has more stability, but has more height and is slower. From what I've seen, BP users tend to rely on speed to dodge whereas XP users actually try to outsmart the opponent with calculated risks in their movements and thinking ahead of their opponent to the best of their ability. I could go much further with this, but I personally think that I would be getting biased at that point as a XP user ;)

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Moved your post to this topic, suits this better :P I personally prefer BP, but its just cos I got so used to this and I haven't play with hornet in quite some time, so my biased opinion would be BP xD It seems like you haven't played much XP/BP from your profile (correct me if I'm wrong), so I think any option would be fine, but I think hornet has a slight advantage for newer players over wasp, its a lot easier to get used to, in my opinion. 

 

Just know this: You are gonna get called noob a looooot in the beginning (I still do, they're all evil out there </3) but don't worry, keep playing and you'll get the hang of both XP and BP after a while ;) 

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just start a new account, get a wasp, rail and hornet and find out what suits you better.

The difference is mainly in stabiliy when beeing hit, acceleration, and drift.

The turret position on the hull also makes a difference if you like to play peek-a-boo.

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just start a new account, get a wasp, rail and hornet and find out what suits you better.

The difference is mainly in stabiliy when beeing hit, acceleration, and drift.

The turret position on the hull also makes a difference if you like to play peek-a-boo.

im sure 100% you like bp :V

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XP, because in the current state of the game Wasp's poor stability negates whatever benefits it might have from speed. Besides, it's nowhere are fast as it used to be, so the speed difference isn't that noticeable.
wasp is a lot smaller tho, i find it a lot harder to hit wasps than hornets

ok this is opinion xp is better cause its got good gravity
but bp which is wasp its can be flipped easy..its fast but its won't help.
and xp will be good in small and medium maps
but bp will be great in big maps !
true, i dont usually play xpbp on large maps anyway, its uaually sandbox, parma, zone and polygon.

This is one of those it depends moments. If your play style is aggressive and fast paced with less camping; BP is a better fit. If your play style is strictly strategic and conservative ( more supportive in most cases), then XP is a better fit. BP gets flipped so much, even if you are a "pro" at it; the speed is a good bonus though (although it is much slower than it used to be). XP has drift, which in itself is both a disadvantage and an advantage depending how you use it in certain situations. XP has more stability, but has more height and is slower. From what I've seen, BP users tend to rely on speed to dodge whereas XP users actually try to outsmart the opponent with calculated risks in their movements and thinking ahead of their opponent to the best of their ability. I could go much further with this, but I personally think that I would be getting biased at that point as a XP user ;)
my playstyle is usually more conservative and reserved, i let the opponent make the aggresive moves.

 

Im usually quite trash at 1v1s, which is what all the arrogant bigheaded so-called xpbp 'pros' tell me to do whenever i call them out in normal battles (theyll be like u want sandbox 1v1 kid?), but i usually perform a lot better in 2v2s and above.


Moved your post to this topic, suits this better :P I personally prefer BP, but its just cos I got so used to this and I haven't play with hornet in quite some time, so my biased opinion would be BP xD It seems like you haven't played much XP/BP from your profile (correct me if I'm wrong), so I think any option would be fine, but I think hornet has a slight advantage for newer players over wasp, its a lot easier to get used to, in my opinion.

 

Just know this: You are gonna get called noob a looooot in the beginning (I still do, they're all evil out there </3) but don't worry, keep playing and you'll get the hang of both XP and BP after a while ;)

Yeah xp is probably better for newcomers to xpbp. I have more experience with it too, ive literally never used wasp past the m1 ranks, even on my alt, which is a major so i cant buy wasp m2 on that anyway.
Thing is, i used to play a lot of xpbp in the lieutenant and major ranks, before the ratings page came so u cant see how much ive used it back then. Im trying to get back into it, hence why im buying m3 xpbp equipment in halloween.
Yeah ill probably get called noob a lot, but i dont really care too much, just dab on the haters xD :P

 


just start a new account, get a wasp, rail and hornet and find out what suits you better.
The difference is mainly in stabiliy when beeing hit, acceleration, and drift.
The turret position on the hull also makes a difference if you like to play peek-a-boo.
on new accounts, you are usually up against total newbies so its hard to guage whether youre doing well or not. also, there is no m0 xpbp mode, and the main reason im asking which hull is better is to buy one to play xpbp. Edited by D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S
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Should I MU my magnum m3 to 10/20 or purchase ricochet m3? 

(I have the ricochet m1 alteration and I love both turrets)

And please comment on the twins, ricochet m3 double module. Thx!

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im sure 100% you like bp :V

 How did you guess that??? :D

Yes I am.. but at the time when I created this account, Wasps have been a much better ride then today. Today they drive like drunken Santa on a Slay that has blunt rails..

 

 

on new accounts, you are usually up against total newbies so its hard to guage whether youre doing well or not. also, there is no m0 xpbp mode, and the main reason im asking which hull is better is to buy one to play xpbp.

IMHO..

if you do good or not is more a matter of practice, then a matter of the XP-vs-BP.

Both combos are pretty well balanced nowadays, so you can meet an XP player that kicks the butt of BPs around like nothing.. and vice versa. Therefore I proposed to play them in the low ranks because it's affordable and you can find out which characteristics suit you more.

Do you favour acceleration and stability, and can live (or love) drift, then Hornet is you deal.

If you favour precice curving above drifting and play more peek-a-boo then offensive stop-dodge-move action, then Wasp is what you should look into.

Playing one combo for 10h, then the other one for 10h, and then switch back gives you more of an insight, then reading 20 more posts here.

 

I started this game with 100% Hornet (after reading it's stats), but when I had to learn XP/BP (clan..) I opened a new M0 account to train. I tried Wasp and fell in love with it - simply because it suited more the way I play.

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Should I MU my magnum m3 to 10/20 or purchase ricochet m3? 

(I have the ricochet m1 alteration and I love both turrets)

And please comment on the twins, ricochet m3 double module. Thx!

Make use of the discount and buy a new item as it costs more to MU with speed ups even on sale.

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Is Fireworks good?

I like that combo, but you need some Hammer skills.

 

If you are already using this combo then buy fireworks.

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Is Fireworks good?

Kind of. The self damage makes it a bootleg thunder HOWEVER you NEED the alt. Wherever you go what happens? People COMPLAINING about OP 5 shot alteration. Costly though, kind of like firebird. They both are trash without it. It's a expensive way.

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Kind of. The self damage makes it a bootleg thunder HOWEVER you NEED the alt. Wherever you go what happens? People COMPLAINING about OP 5 shot alteration. Costly though, kind of like firebird. They both are trash without it. It's a expensive way.

Self damage? In Hammer? Lol, why would someone shoot at wall? I mostly play with Hammer but never take self damage.

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Kind of. The self damage makes it a bootleg thunder HOWEVER you NEED the alt. Wherever you go what happens? People COMPLAINING about OP 5 shot alteration. Costly though, kind of like firebird. They both are trash without it. It's a expensive way. 

 

I, like Musa, main Hammer, but almost never damage myself except in parkour. Not to offend in any way, but once you get good with Hammer, you learn to control the ricochet.

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