What to buy? Which is better?

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I am close to ranking up to Lieutenant General and have saved quite some crystals (around 700k)  :P

My current garage has fully MU-ed M2 Railgun, Viking and Wasp. Also an 9/10 M2 Smoky and some other M2's

Also I already have the High Caliber alteration for Railgun.

 

With the M3 kits becoming available at this rank: should I buy one? Because of the fully MU-ed M2's I do not profit 100% from all,

but because of the M3 modules and the early unlock AND the possibility to MU already (hopefully with Christmas sales) I am thinking I could have a nice kickstart into M3. 

 

I like to play Railgun a lot and used to play Twins/Thunder before.

Maybe the Healer Kit so I have an Isida M3? Or?

 

Thanks for your advice!  :)

at the rate you earn exp it is better to start upgrading m3s earlier... You'd probably have enough time to MU them to m4 even before you reach general... 

 

just buy any m3 kit with your favourite turrets and hulls. 

[N0iSE 222]

at the rate you earn exp it is better to start upgrading m3s earlier... You'd probably have enough time to MU them to m4 even before you reach general... 

 

just buy any m3 kit with your favourite turrets and hulls. 

Thanks! I try to XP as slow as possible -I read the advice once somewhere...

So just to be sure: if I buy a kit with Railgun it is not a "waste" of crystals because I can get it for -100% at Marshal?

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Thanks! I try to XP as slow as possible -I read the advice once somewhere...

So just to be sure: if I buy a kit with Railgun it is not a "waste" of crystals because I can get it for -100% at Marshal?

yes, you will be able to get it for free at marshal... but the time you would take to reach marshal would be very long based on the amount of exp you make per week. i think it's better to just get m3 sooner so you can start upgrading it sooner. 

Edited November 30, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[N0iSE 222]

ok I think you're right!

Thanks for the advice!

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

ok I think you're right!

Thanks for the advice!

you're welcome  :) 

 

although I'm sure that if you wait a bit there are going to be others telling you not to listen to me.  :ph34r: lots of people here think everything i say is crap

Edited November 30, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S 432]

you're welcome :)

 

although I'm sure that if you wait a bit there are going to be others telling you not to listen to me. :ph34r: lots of people here think everything i say is crap

nothing personal here Guido, but I think youve given him the wrong advice.

 

Look at it this way = he currently has an m3 rail anyway, if he says he can get it for free at marshal.

 

If he gets an m3 kit without rail and MUs it to m4 by marshal, then he has 2 m4s and an m3.

 

If he takes your advice, then he has 2 m4s only, no m3. Far better to have a wider variety of turrets than essentially buy the same turret twice: once through MUs, once in the kit.

 

Perhaps if MUing m2s still deducted kit prices then you would have a good point

[wolverine848 13,097]

at the rate you earn exp it is better to start upgrading m3s earlier... You'd probably have enough time to MU them to m4 even before you reach general... 

 

just buy any m3 kit with your favourite turrets and hulls. 

Upgrading an M3 all the way to M4 by General?  Doubt you'd see enough sales on MUs in that time and speed-ups should never be considered.

 

Thanks! I try to XP as slow as possible -I read the advice once somewhere...

So just to be sure: if I buy a kit with Railgun it is not a "waste" of crystals because I can get it for -100% at Marshal?

You better check double-check on the garage & kit relationship.  My understanding is if you have a turret in garage and buy a kit with same turret you DO NOT save the crystals on that turret.

 

The Rail is 10/10 and smoky 9/10?

What are the wasp & viking at?

[N0iSE 222]

This was my point and I ll wait to see what all advices are. What kit would be best?

The wasp and viking are both 10/10 M2

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

nothing personal here Guido, but I think youve given him the wrong advice.

 

Look at it this way = he currently has an m3 rail anyway, if he says he can get it for free at marshal.

 

If he gets an m3 kit without rail and MUs it to m4 by marshal, then he has 2 m4s and an m3.

 

If he takes your advice, then he has 2 m4s only, no m3. Far better to have a wider variety of turrets than essentially buy the same turret twice: once through MUs, once in the kit.

 

Perhaps if MUing m2s still deducted kit prices then you would have a good point

 

 if he likes railgun so much he should make it as good as possible asap? if he gets another kit he'll always have to chose between getting outmatched in terms of equipment or using a turret he's not familiar with.

 

 

Upgrading an M3 all the way to M4 by General?  Doubt you'd see enough sales on MUs in that time and speed-ups should never be considered.

 

You better check double-check on the garage & kit relationship.  My understanding is if you have a turret in garage and buy a kit with same turret you DO NOT save the crystals on that turret.

 

The Rail is 10/10 and smoky 9/10?

What are the wasp & viking at?

well the first 10 steps only cost 20% of the entire price and also only take up 20% of the time; so they don't have to be done during sales. The remaining 10 steps can be done on sales. last week there was black boxes and he only made 10k exp, and this week he has only made 2k exp... I'm sure he'll have time to get it to at least 17-20/20 by general

Edited November 30, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S 432]

 if he likes railgun so much he should make it as good as possible asap? if he gets another kit he'll always have to chose between getting outmatched in terms of equipment or using a turret he's not familiar with.

 

 

well the first 10 steps only cost 20% of the entire price and also only take up 20% of the time; so they don't have to be done during sales. The remaining 10 steps can be done on sales. last week there was black boxes and he only made 10k exp, and this week he has only made 2k exp... I'm sure he'll have time to get it to at least 17-20/20 by general

Getting another turret like thunder or twins does not have a steep learning curve, besides: if you know how to aim a railgun, then you will definitely know how to aim a thunder, the margin for error on thunder is much greater due to the splash damage. Twins just takes no skill but is insanely OP. There are of course other turrets without a steep learning curve.

 

Even if he only wants to use rail, he should buy a kit with the hull that he wants to pair with rail, but without rail on top. e.g. if he wants the xp combo, get man-o-war and not legend, and get a free hammer in there, or get healer and get a free isida.

 

Therefore, the benefit of essentially getting a turret "for free" with the hull that he wants to pair with his railgun is great.

Heck, even if he dosent use the turret, and he uses the m3 hull with the m2 10/10 rail, he still has an m3 lying in the garage, to be used whenever he may need. You get my point? Buying railgun twice is a massive waste of crystals, and it dosent look like he earns crystals very quickly.

 

He will have time to get 1 piece of equipment to around the 15/20 mark by general I agree, if he focuses all of his crystal earnings solely into MUs.

Edited November 30, 2017 by D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S

[wolverine848 13,097]

This was my point and I ll wait to see what all advices are. What kit would be best?

The wasp and viking are both 10/10 M2

So you basically have M3s - but technically not.  So even by time you can buy the kit they will not be M3.

Even if you get a discount on a kit (I don't think you do) for having the m3 in garage, you won't really have the m3 in garage - you can't convert until later rank.

 

Think about a kit with something you don't have, that maybe you'd like, and has a decent Prot Module.

Healer seems to have things you don't have so is viable.

Getting a kit with Heavy hull for smaller maps might also be considered.

[D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S 432]

I personally see shaft as a powerful turret. Which can be used well. However it makes gameplay very slow. Still powerful. But slow.

I'd recommend getting the m1 alt if you get shaft, and the rest of your MUs would be for Twins. I had it upgraded to 10/20 on Halloween, and its amazing. Simply amazing.

Yeah, Ill definitely get my Twins up to around the 10 mark, its one of my strongest turrets

 

If really set on Shaft M3 save for it and MU 4-5 items 1-3 spots.

 

You won't want speed-ups for MUs so - if MU-ing spread them around a bit (and include your Protection Modules).

 

No point in getting Viking to 20/20 yet - the last few MUs are sooooo expensive for very little gain.

Finish the last few MUs much later - that is more of a luxury.

I have more than enough for shaft m3 on a sale - will have around 320k by the Christmas sales

 

If I was going to do MUs, I am not a patient person, and I dont like watching my crystals dwindle down - I will stack them up and then blow them on a sale. I will do all the higher level MUs on a 50/70 sale.

 

Yeah, 20/20 is probably a bit too much, however 15/20 is reasonable, and I will probably get it there before Gissimo.

 

If you want Shaft prepare to use a lot of Double Damage during battles.

not a problem 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

all i can say is that i hate having to fight m3+ shaft mammoths with just m3 shaft mammoth or fighting m3+ isida hornets with my m2+ isida hornet. if i change to my m3s from m3 kits i am even less effective because i can't use them well.

there is no m3 kit for shaft mammoth but when i get enough crystals i'm gonna get that isida hornet kit... my isida hornet is already m2 9/10 but i just want to get it m3 so i can start upgrading it to 10/20 without sales and continue on with sales if i have to.

the first 10 steps for m3s are very cheap... spending more to get m3s earlier isn't such a waste because you get access to a huge boost in stats for a cheap price.

Edited November 30, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S 432]

all i can say is that i hate having to fight m3+ shaft mammoths with just m3 shaft mammoth or fighting m3+ isida hornets with my m2+ isida hornet. if i change to my m3s from m3 kits i am even less effective because i can't use them well.

 

there is no m3 kit for shaft mammoth but when i get enough crystals i'm gonna get that isida hornet kit... my isida hornet is already m2 9/10 buti just want to get it m3 so i can start upgrading it to 10/20 without sales and continue on with sales if i have to.

I thought you had no problem with drugging m4 shaft mammoths because you simply destroy them with your skill?

 

In my opinion, buying healer kit if you have m2 9/10 is foolish, but its your account, and it seems like you are making an informed decision, so do what you want. Can I just ask, if you had plans to get healer kit, what was the point in doing expensive MU steps from step 5 to step 9?

 

Surely if you knew you wanted that kit, then you could deal with using a m2 5/10 isida hornet until you got the kit? I just feel its a shame to waste crystals like that. 

 

I dont know if you want a piece of anecdotal evidence, but heres one anyway, with myself as the example.

Thunder was always my favourite turret, but smoky was my most powerful m2 turret (i didnt have twins), so I used it the most. When it came to choosing my m3 kit at lieutenant general,I knew I wanted a Viking kit.

I initially wanted to get Raiden, but I already had a 8/10 Thunder, Emerald paint and the Emerald LCG, so it would have been a massive waste of crystals. Instead, I bought Paladin, got myself a great paint, a great close range module, a semi-decent turret and my preferred hull. 

 

Now, at the time, I didnt think I would ever use the module, nor the smoky, but the smoky is very effective when the enemy have tons of thunder protections - I dont see many Griffon T-Ds around. The module is an absolute lifesaver in the island and polygon games I play, and the paint looks beautiful.

[Cold.Freeze 19]

Ok guys, I have narrowed it down to these 2 kits. Stalker and excalibur, I am mainly in it for the protection module and turret as I already have the hulls available in those bundles. I am mainly wondering which is better, magnum or striker m2

[N0iSE 222]

 

 

 

Thank you for your advice!

 

so I am looking now at kits and doubting on:

Healer kit [isida Hornet and Badger T-B]

Vandal kit [Twins Hunter and Ursa T-D]

or

Prometheus [Fire Hunter and Badger T-F and 

zeus... love the paint

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by N0iSE

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I thought you had no problem with drugging m4 shaft mammoths because you simply destroy them with your skill?

 

In my opinion, buying healer kit if you have m2 9/10 is foolish, but its your account, and it seems like you are making an informed decision, so do what you want. Can I just ask, if you had plans to get healer kit, what was the point in doing expensive MU steps from step 5 to step 9?

 

Surely if you knew you wanted that kit, then you could deal with using a m2 5/10 isida hornet until you got the kit? I just feel its a shame to waste crystals like that.

most of the time i don't. but of course i'd rather kill them 15 times in one battle than just 10 times. also, sometimes i don't get 1st place because my team mate reloades quicker and takes the easy kills before i do.

 

I mued them because i had the crystals to do so at the time. also, i got isida hornet a long long time ago, when i played 16-24 hours a day. i thought i would just breeze through lieutenant general to marshal. now that i can't play that much i might as well get better equipment  asap so i won't have to get outmatched until god knows when i reach marshal.

Edited November 30, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[SkiIL-PaVlIToS 579]

I am mainly wondering which is better, magnum or striker m2

In my opinion magnum is better than striker.It has the biggest calibre that can be fit on a tank hull, creating the most powerful blast.

It is really good in mid and long-range maps.. 

[D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S 432]

there is no m3 kit for shaft mammoth but when i get enough crystals i'm gonna get that isida hornet kit... 

 

I mued them because i had the crystals to do so at the time. 

 

Perhaps if you had saved those crystals, you would be able to purchase that healer kit a lot sooner

Thank you for your advice!

 

so I am looking now at kits and doubting on:

Healer kit [isida Hornet and Badger T-B]

Vandal kit [Twins Hunter and Ursa T-D]

or

Prometheus [Fire Hunter and Badger T-F and 

zeus... love the paint

 

All of those kits are great, choose whichever you like the most

 

Vandal IMO has the best turret out of fire, isida and twins, but the worst module: Vulcan and Shaft protection unnecessary when playing twins: you shouldnt be fighting long range. Vulcan is also extremely weak, no protections are needed against it

 

Prometheus IMO has the best paint and the best module, Badger T-F is my go to module in close range maps

 

Healer kit IMO is the most versatile, with a good turret, a decent hull - hornet is weak but it will allow you to play m3 xpbp when you get to marshal and a balanced module, though rico protections won't do you much good since they have the range advantage.

Edited November 30, 2017 by D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Perhaps if you had saved those crystals, you would be able to purchase that healer kit a lot sooner

i would have been able to do so had i not bought raiden kit. I was thinking like what you suggested, get something i don't have.

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

If I was going to do MUs, I am not a patient person, and I dont like watching my crystals dwindle down - I will stack them up and then blow them on a sale. I will do all the higher level MUs on a 50/70 sale.

 

I was surprised to learn that upgrading on 50/70 sale with speedups is more expensive than no sale at all.

 

So instead of "stacking" the crystals, keep MU-ing as soon as current MU is finished. Doing just one MU on a sale day will save quite a few crystals in the later stages.  And you get to realize a (small) improvement earlier than waiting for a sale.

[C.O.N.Q.U.E.R.O.R 3,845]

After buying Simoom kit, what should be my next step? MU to 5/10 and then save for M3s? Or save for another kit and then save for M3s?

[D.A.R.K.N.E.S.S 432]

I was surprised to learn that upgrading on 50/70 sale with speedups is more expensive than no sale at all.

 

So instead of "stacking" the crystals, keep MU-ing as soon as current MU is finished. Doing just one MU on a sale day will save quite a few crystals in the later stages.  And you get to realize a (small) improvement earlier than waiting for a sale.

Its more expensive, but very slightly - worth it IMO for the time you save (they say time is money, so time is crystals in tanki xD)

The small improvements I dont really realise, but when you stack and get something from 4/20 to 10/20, you really feel the difference.

 

When I get the equipment that I wanna m4 up to arund the 15/20 mark, then I will start doing 1 MU at a time on sale days.

Until then, its stock up, stock up and then blow it all on the 50/70 sales.

[Hammy15 191]

After buying Simoom kit, what should be my next step? MU to 5/10 and then save for M3s? Or save for another kit and then save for M3s?

I’ve bought boar kit and did only 1 MU, I like to play with several combo’s and not only 1. So when I reach next rank I’m going to buy firebolt +rail on xmas sale. For you I would say: if you like to play with 1 combo all the time till m3 Mu it to 10/10. Others I would just buy another kit because in my experience you will earn a lot between sinoom amd m3 kits

[C.O.N.Q.U.E.R.O.R 3,845]

I’ve bought boar kit and did only 1 MU, I like to play with several combo’s and not only 1. So when I reach next rank I’m going to buy firebolt +rail on xmas sale. For you I would say: if you like to play with 1 combo all the time till m3 Mu it to 10/10. Others I would just buy another kit because in my experience you will earn a lot between sinoom amd m3 kits

I mean, I consider myself above average with every turret while quite good with Railgun and Hammer. Thunder is somewhere near the top of that list too, but since I like most turrets, I think I might go with another M2 kit... Thanks for the feedback; I'll wait for a few other comments before locking that in.