What to buy? Which is better?

[Br4d_1 22]

It is sad to see this thread is nothing more than a "what kit should I buy?" thread. It certainly is not a "what is better" thread because this convo has got that question wrong.

 

KITS are not the way to plan account progression in 2018.  It was two years ago but it is not any more.  The way to progress now is to buy items singly, MU them to the max, then trade them in for no cost at the next unlock rank.

 

The new module system puts immense pressure on accounts to MU 13 (or 14) modules all atone. The higher your rank the more modules you must own.  The focus for an account's development strategy is to get through the LtCol to Marshal vast long Death March. In order to do this wou will need m2+10/!0 turret, ull, and 13 modules.

 

Every one of thse discussions is based on saving over 400k to buy a kit at LtGen.  This approach will strarve the accunt for MU finds. This account will get an m3 hull, turret, and module at LtGen.  But then it must spend another 303k to MU THOSE or eslse the m3+0 is no better than the m2+10.

 

So this account spends 750k to get a slightly better hull and turret for two ranks. In exchange it has bad protections against 12 of 13 weapon types. 35% protections will give you more performance boost over 25% than the difference between m2+10 and m3+10. 

 

A secondardy reason is that Crystals you do not spend on equipment upgrades are Crystals that do not help you.  Sitting on well over a half-million Cry for months means you are waiting a long time to get your upgrades.  The MU approach puts your moiney to work for you months sooner. You get to enjoy that boost over many many  more games.

 

Kits are good for buyers or for changing to a new type of hull and turret. But accounts that will keep using the same hull and turret kits are to be avoided. Buy on sale and MU then diversify you modules as you can afford. It's 2018.

 

I agree with most of this apart from the fact that getting a kit will allow you to start getting m4 rather than just sitting on money waiting for marshal. Also I don't feel the need for every protection just the most damaging turretes. Finally if your starting from scratch, this is the way to go, but I came back to my current acount after a LONG break and this method just isn't feasable...

[saleh_TURBO 9]

when is tankers day sale

[gokuMI6 1,290]

It is sad to see this thread is nothing more than a "what kit should I buy?" thread. It certainly is not a "what is better" thread because this convo has got that question wrong.

 

KITS are not the way to plan account progression in 2018.  It was two years ago but it is not any more.  The way to progress now is to buy items singly, MU them to the max, then trade them in for no cost at the next unlock rank.

 

The new module system puts immense pressure on accounts to MU 13 (or 14) modules all atone. The higher your rank the more modules you must own.  The focus for an account's development strategy is to get through the LtCol to Marshal vast long Death March. In order to do this wou will need m2+10/!0 turret, ull, and 13 modules.

 

Every one of thse discussions is based on saving over 400k to buy a kit at LtGen.  This approach will strarve the accunt for MU finds. This account will get an m3 hull, turret, and module at LtGen.  But then it must spend another 303k to MU THOSE or eslse the m3+0 is no better than the m2+10.

 

So this account spends 750k to get a slightly better hull and turret for two ranks. In exchange it has bad protections against 12 of 13 weapon types. 35% protections will give you more performance boost over 25% than the difference between m2+10 and m3+10. 

 

A secondardy reason is that Crystals you do not spend on equipment upgrades are Crystals that do not help you.  Sitting on well over a half-million Cry for months means you are waiting a long time to get your upgrades.  The MU approach puts your moiney to work for you months sooner. You get to enjoy that boost over many many  more games.

 

Kits are good for buyers or for changing to a new type of hull and turret. But accounts that will keep using the same hull and turret kits are to be avoided. Buy on sale and MU then diversify you modules as you can afford. It's 2018.

Man you are right but at the same time i would like to add some things too

 

My plan is like get a m3 kit while at same time have a fully MU combo

With m2 10/10 you have to wait till Marshal to start MU it to M4 , But even before you will be facing m4's while you still have a m2 {10/10}

SO it is a good idea to grab a kit 

Also kit's give the higher level combo before it's unlock rank that is a advantage for us , do not just say they are only for buyer's

 

Also a question at M4

Rico,Twins,Smoky-which shall i get first ?

Edited July 19, 2018 by gokuMI6

[gokuMI6 1,290]

when is tankers day sale

Second sunday of  Septemebr 

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=360526

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I agree with most of this apart from the fact that getting a kit will allow you to start getting m4 rather than just sitting on money waiting for marshal. Also I don't feel the need for every protection just the most damaging turretes. Finally if your starting from scratch, this is the way to go, but I came back to my current acount after a LONG break and this method just isn't feasable...

Yes I agree. I was talking about new accounts making long term plans/.  Older accounts have to deal with the sistuation they find themselves in.

 

Man you are right but at the same time i would like to add some things too

 

My plan is like get a m3 kit while at same time have a fully MU combo

With m2 10/10 you have to wait till Marshal to start MU it to M4 , But even before you will be facing m4's while you still have a m2 {10/10}

SO it is a good idea to grab a kit 

Also kit's give the higher level combo before it's unlock rank that is a advantage for us , do not just say they are only for buyer's

 

Also a question at M4

Rico,Twins,Smoky-which shall i get first ?

I addressed that. Buying a kit does noting for you. You must spend 400k+ on the kit that amount again on MU steps RIGHT AWAY or else buying your kit two ranks earlier obtains exactly ZERO perforrmance boost. Z-E-R-O. You cannot state that spending 750k+ on a REDUNDANT hull/turret is not going to have a sever impact on other investments. An account will get a larger performance boost in spreading out their investments not in buying a redundant hull/turret combo.

 

People who put their faith in kits are betting everything they have on getting gear unlocked two ranks earlier.  That's all you get from a kit. EVERYTHING else is a negative. For that you have to starve investments in all other aspects of the garage and when the big rank up day arrives .... it might be two more months before the kit is available for purchase in the Garage.

 

That's no way to plan.  But by all means... everyone must play their own game. If aiming for Second Place is the goal, the Kits are teh way to go.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

you can easily do both... fully MU 1 m2 combo and still save up for a kit at the same time...

[gokuMI6 1,290]

you can easily do both... fully MU 1 m2 combo and still save up for a kit at the same time...

Exatcly that is the way to go

 

My likes for day have reached other wise your first post will have goten one

[Delta_Rail 142]

Yes I agree. I was talking about new accounts making long term plans/.  Older accounts have to deal with the sistuation they find themselves in.

 

I addressed that. Buying a kit does noting for you. You must spend 400k+ on the kit that amount again on MU steps RIGHT AWAY or else buying your kit two ranks earlier obtains exactly ZERO perforrmance boost. Z-E-R-O. You cannot state that spending 750k+ on a REDUNDANT hull/turret is not going to have a sever impact on other investments. An account will get a larger performance boost in spreading out their investments not in buying a redundant hull/turret combo.

 

People who put their faith in kits are betting everything they have on getting gear unlocked two ranks earlier.  That's all you get from a kit. EVERYTHING else is a negative. For that you have to starve investments in all other aspects of the garage and when the big rank up day arrives .... it might be two more months before the kit is available for purchase in the Garage.

 

That's no way to plan.  But by all means... everyone must play their own game. If aiming for Second Place is the goal, the Kits are teh way to go.

Im MUing isida and viking M2 to M3 while saving up for Huntsman or Legend kit, and I have plenty of time to get to lt. gen ( On my alt. account MLG_Keemstar)

Edited July 19, 2018 by Delta_Rail

[saleh_TURBO 9]

what is the sale, how much and on what

 

btw how do you guys know the dates and details on the sales that are coming

[arlo7 130]

 

what is the sale, how much and on what

 

btw how do you guys know the dates and details on the sales that are coming

All the information is on the main forum page. I can tell you it’s -25%, but check out the v-log or the main forum page topic and you’ll see all details! Good Luck! Edited July 20, 2018 by arlo7

[Retaliate 503]

Should I? It does look pretty sexy...  :ph34r:

[badmonkey69 12]

Why would you buy anything here, the game is dying 

[Retaliate 503]

Why would you buy anything here, the game is dying 

Why would I buy a turret? Thats a dumb question. No one is keeping you here.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

Should I? It does look pretty sexy...  :ph34r:

TBH 30% is not much of a sale for me

But if you like it you can go for it

But be sure you have a heavy hull

 

Why would you buy anything here, the game is dying 

We are not buying from our wallet we buying with crystal's

[BrightFusions 2]

Hey all

 

My friend currently has around 290k. He has rico and hunter m2 both MUed 5/10. He is also a major. He wanted to know whether he should buy magnum m2 and I was thinking the same thing. Is it worth it? I heard its quite hard to play with. He's also considering to get the atlas kit only to get smoky m2 as he thinks titan m2 is useless. What would you guys advise? He doesnt play much and he doesnt think he will be able to rank to colonel to get smoky m2 individually.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Why would you buy anything here, the game is dying 

It's been dying since 2015.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

Hey all

 

My friend currently has around 290k. He has rico and hunter m2 both MUed 5/10. He is also a major. He wanted to know whether he should buy magnum m2 and I was thinking the same thing. Is it worth it? I heard its quite hard to play with. He's also considering to get the atlas kit only to get smoky m2 as he thinks titan m2 is useless. What would you guys advise? He doesnt play much and he doesnt think he will be able to rank to colonel to get smoky m2 individually.

290k

tell him to keep MUing Rico cause its very good

i have m2 10/10 not many protections around , easy to get kills 

 

As you know Magnum is OP

But using it is hard i would suggest start a new account and try it first 

M2 Magnum is good , If you play polygon CP very effective there

In MM be sure to use DD , or your kills will get stolen

 

Atlas kit is good , M2 titan is also just look at the gargae 

it has the most HP at M2 level , so it is worth it 

IMO if he only needs M2 smoky i would suggest to get it in a sale after he ranks 

it is just 2 ranks more 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Why would you buy anything here, the game is dying 

why would you buy anything for your grandmother, she is dying

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Exatcly that is the way to go

 

My likes for day have reached other wise your first post will have goten one

Well since my entire comment is based on this scenario I obviously agree it can be done.  That is is INEFFICIENT to so it would be my point. 

 

Every single posting on this forum told me my plan was wrong, kits were teh only way to go, and my life would be hell between Brigdier and Marshal because I didn't have an m3 kit to MU on up.

 

In reality this period of time turned out to be the easiest time I have had in the game since I started. My hypothesis as to why is this: for the first time I had a full set of modules and they were MU'ed strongly. My module capability more than made up for the slight difference between m3 and m3+.Then befor eI knew it I was Marshal myself. Today I have better module protections at Marshal than many Legends seem to have.

 

But as I said, everyone has their own game.  If other players insist on handicapping themselves that it their choice. All I can do is offer to help.

 

Why would you buy anything here, the game is dying 

Because when I log on to the game today, tomorrow, and next month, I will then play TO. That, and I cannot spend TO Crystals anywhere else.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

 All I can do is offer to help.

Yes i agree

all are differnet and we make different choice's

And the thins easy for you will be hard for another guy

 

Yes keep doing help

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Yes i agree

all are differnet and we make different choice's

And the thins easy for you will be hard for another guy

 

Yes keep doing help

I know what is going on. I am up against institutionalized "common wisdom".  In this game for years players just talk about kits, which ones they like, which ones they plan to buy. It is just the accepted way of doing things. The problem is the "CW" goes back unchanged for several years but meanwhile the rules have changed. Every so often it is shrewd to take a step back and review the things you "are sure" you know.

 

But a few ppl typing on the forum wil not change CW.  So thre's a bit of a frustration element I left irk me at times. :)

[gokuMI6 1,290]

I know what is going on. I am up against institutionalized "common wisdom".  In this game for years players just talk about kits, which ones they like, which ones they plan to buy. It is just the accepted way of doing things. The problem is the "CW" goes back unchanged for several years but meanwhile the rules have changed. Every so often it is shrewd to take a step back and review the things you "are sure" you know.

 

But a few ppl typing on the forum wil not change CW.  So thre's a bit of a frustration element I left irk me at times. :)

Who said you are against anything 

yes i am new here and you are older than me in game so you have more knowldege

also you lost me at CW what is it ?

 

yes few ppl typing on forum can nothing

but at least we say our opionons

[BrightFusions 2]

290k

tell him to keep MUing Rico cause its very good

i have m2 10/10 not many protections around , easy to get kills 

 

As you know Magnum is OP

But using it is hard i would suggest start a new account and try it first 

M2 Magnum is good , If you play polygon CP very effective there

In MM be sure to use DD , or your kills will get stolen

 

Atlas kit is good , M2 titan is also just look at the gargae 

it has the most HP at M2 level , so it is worth it 

IMO if he only needs M2 smoky i would suggest to get it in a sale after he ranks 

it is just 2 ranks more

 

But doesn’t MUing make it a waste of money to buy an m3 kit. For example if a person had fully upgraded Rico and hunter m2 and wants to buy redneck kit. Then they would have to wait longer till Marshal till they can upgrade to m4. Correct me if I’m wrong. Also I’m glad u said magnum was a good. My worry is whether it will be nerfed as everyone thinks it’s way too strong.In addition, if u don’t mind me asking, how long would u say it would take to get decent at magnum?

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Who said you are against anything 

yes i am new here and you are older than me in game so you have more knowldege

also you lost me at CW what is it ?

 

yes few ppl typing on forum can nothing

but at least we say our opionons

I am talking about the player base not just on e or two individuals. In any game community there are things generally accepted as truth. Contrary points of view are geneally dismissed because they do not fit the  accepted norms.  This is just human nature not something unique to TO.

[gokuMI6 1,290]

But doesn’t MUing make it a waste of money to buy an m3 kit. For example if a person had fully upgraded Rico and hunter m2 and wants to buy redneck kit. Then they would have to wait longer till Marshal till they can upgrade to m4. Correct me if I’m wrong. Also I’m glad u said magnum was a good. My worry is whether it will be nerfed as everyone thinks it’s way too strong.In addition, if u don’t mind me asking, how long would u say it would take to get decent at magnum?

Yes ofc , and i was also dumb not knowing that MU 10/10 dont give reduction on kit

i MU my XP and i went to Wiki to check price of legend kit and i see it give no reduction and  i stop the MU at 5/10  :(

I was so desperate cause i am not bad at XP/BP but struggles agisnit M3 guys , and also aim to go E-sports 

Now i am thinking to buy legend kit from shop , and get 1 M3 kit , cause i have a m 210/10 rico and i cant start MU it before Marshal

So after the 3 start rank i will surely facing M3 10/20 + guys so i will struggle , well not much 

SO i get a M3 kit and start MU it and i can get at least 10+ steps on it before Marshal

 

So for mid ranker's i think the idea now would be to get a combo to 10/10 and save for 1 m3 kit

 

Magnum it's nice , i have m1 used it before MM was very good with it 

make it your primary and go to the maps in Private and figure out the angles and power 

and once you know it you are good 

It is not as hard as Striker

Idk how long it will take to be good with it , but for me it will be easy 2/3 battles with it again i am back where i left it

Also you need to have good eye's on Surrounding's , your shots can get deflected easy so watch out for Impact family

And  with magnum on long shots there is some kind of Wind effect i think have you watched it ?