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P-Shooter: Yes, it is, but it does not exclude learning from others' experience, huh? With your attitude this entire topic would be redundant. "Thanks" for not helping.

My pleasure.

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player_2015_tanker: Did you use it or your opinion is based on the stats only?

 

P-Shooter: And only your pleasure, troll.

No need to be sarcastic and insulting if you did not like my response.

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Should I save for Atlas kit (Titan M2, Smoky M2, Loam) or Mosquito kit (Wasp M2, Railgun M2, Savannah)? I currently have just over 120k. My current combo is the Minotaur kit (Viking M2, Twins M2, Rhino). Here's my current opinions on both of 'em.

 

Atlas:

The good

 

1. Smoky M2. Extremely OP, and one of my favorite turrets. I have Smoky experience on my alt, @DragonOfTheMist.

2. Loam's Fire protection is superior to Storms.

3. Titan would give me a heavy M2 hull to use.

 

The bad

 

1. I've already got an OP combo. Do I really need to spend 180k to get more options in non-format battles? Will this equipment actually last longer?

2. Loam is better then Storm, but my paint options wouldn't be diverse.

3. I doubt I'd use Titan much. I'm too fond of Viking.

 

 

Mosquito kit:

The good

 

1. XP/BP! I'd be able to play format XP/BP, which would be a way to compete with other players on an even playing field all the way to Lieutenant General (), where I plan to buy Paladin.

2. Savannah. Excellent protection against Smoky, a very powerful turret. 20 protection from Railgun, replacing Fracture in every way. It looks so much better too.

 

The bad

 

1. Wasp is superior to Hornet at M2, but still similar.

2. Not really an amazing combo in normal battles. This is offset somewhat by the XP/BP factor, though.

 

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If you want and got enough skill/knowledge. I used wasp-rail and later hunter-twins later (why twins? because I always deal max damage I can and do not get killed just before my turret reloads). You can try it, why not? Though you could buy some cheap stuff like "Lizard" kit (4k crystals only) or Firebird M1 (about 7k, less if you wait for a sale). You could even buy both on a sale and obtain a titan-firebird combo, excellent for small maps and good for Polygon CP also.

 

TheRollingSlab: Well, I don't know your playing style or maps you most often play on. Why do I want thunder? Because of splash damage. In Polygon CP there is always a crowd at the point. Medic is an option too, though I will not buy both (vik overlaps again). There is also "Healer" kit with hornet and isida (both M3).

 

Why is hornet M3 not so good in your opinion?

Thunder ain't good for Polygon CP. You can buy Freeze for around the same price and Freeze is amazing for Poly CP, IMO only Firebird is better than Freeze for Poly CP. Thunder M3 just isn't good, as a lot of people have Thunder protection and its stats are relatively low, because it is an early M3. If you really want it, buy it, but I'm just suggesting you don't. Isida is useful in all maps and gets you exp quickly, which is why I recommended Medic. I've played with all M3 turrets and hulls except Vulcan, Shaft, Firebird, Dictator, and Titan. Hornet M3 is too weak for me, I use Wasp M3 instead. The speed-armor ratio isn't good on stock Hornet M3, at least IMO.

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Should I save for Atlas kit (Titan M2, Smoky M2, Loam) or Mosquito kit (Wasp M2, Railgun M2, Savannah)? I currently have just over 120k. My current combo is the Minotaur kit (Viking M2, Twins M2, Rhino). Here's my current opinions on both of 'em.

Atlas:

The good

 

1. Smoky M2. Extremely OP, and one of my favorite turrets. I have Smoky experience on my alt, @DragonOfTheMist.

2. Loam's Fire protection is superior to Storms.

3. Titan would give me a heavy M2 hull to use.

 

The bad

 

1. I've already got an OP combo. Do I really need to spend 180k to get more options in non-format battles? Will this equipment actually last longer?

2. Loam is better then Storm, but my paint options wouldn't be diverse.

3. I doubt I'd use Titan much. I'm too fond of Viking.

 

Mosquito kit:

The good

 

1. XP/BP! I'd be able to play format XP/BP, which would be a way to compete with other players on an even playing field all the way to Lieutenant General (), where I plan to buy Paladin.

2. Savannah. Excellent protection against Smoky, a very powerful turret. 20 protection from Railgun, replacing Fracture in every way. It looks so much better too.

 

The bad

 

1. Wasp is superior to Hornet at M2, but still similar.

2. Not really an amazing combo in normal battles. This is offset somewhat by the XP/BP factor, though.

 

If it were me, buy neither. Your combo will very effective up until Brigadier, and should be OK until Lieutenant General where you plan to buy Paladin. If you buy nothing now, you will be able to buy Paladin, and another OP M3 kit which goes well with Smoky, like Prometheus or Lumberjack.
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DragonOfStorms: If playing XP/BP is fun for you, buy "Mosquito". Otherwise, save crystals for M3/M3 kit. Minotaur is strong and I am sure it is enough till you unlock the kits at Brigadier - Lieutenant General ranks.

 

You can also make an alt acc dedicated to XP/BP. There is a new kit with hornet M1 and rail M1, you could start with it and later buy 'Tornado" or "Mosquito".

 

P-Shooter: No need to troll this topic if you don't like its idea.

 

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AbsoluteAlpha: Yeah, what about using thunder at ranks higher than brigadier? People don't have much thunder protection now, but I don't know how it looks like later.

 

TheRollingSlab: So, you are trying to say that people don't use fire or freeze protection in Polygon CP battles? If they do, the protection argument is irrelevant. If I could afford buying a paint separately (not in a kit), it would be fire-freeze protection paint. There is always 3-4 fires/freezes in Polygon CP battles, while usually not more than 1-2 thunders.

Isida-viking combo is slow, and thus limited to small or medium maps (defense only on big ones). In Polygon CP isida needs to hide behind campers or die quickly.

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If it were me, buy neither. Your combo will very effective up until Brigadier, and should be OK until Lieutenant General where you plan to buy Paladin. If you buy nothing now, you will be able to buy Paladin, and another OP M3 kit which goes well with Smoky, like Prometheus or Lumberjack.

I've calculated it, and buying either of these kits won't affect my buying Paladin at unlock. Once I get Paladin, I don't plan to get another M3 kit, because that is my dream combo. I might pick up some M3s later, but we'll see.

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For the second time I say this. When people say: Ugh, Thunder m3 isnt good.. they just need to build skills with it. I was dominating battles with m1 Thunder at brigadier!

I haven't seen a Thunder M3 finish first in a battle without heavy drugging for a long, long time. Nor have I seen one with notable skills. I hear Thunder M4 is very good, but stock really isn't great even with skills, at least IMO. Another reason I'm suggesting for him not to buy it because there are much better early M3s, like Isida, Freeze, Shaft (I guess :P) and Hammer.

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I haven't seen a Thunder M3 finish first in a battle without heavy drugging for a long, long time. Nor have I seen one with notable skills. I hear Thunder M4 is very good, but stock really isn't great even with skills, at least IMO. Another reason I'm suggesting for him not to buy it because there are much better early M3s, like Isida, Freeze, Shaft (I guess :P) and Hammer.

You never saw a Real Thunder SKiller xd

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I've calculated it, and buying either of these kits won't affect my buying Paladin at unlock. Once I get Paladin, I don't plan to get another M3 kit, because that is my dream combo. I might pick up some M3s later, but we'll see.

I would buy Atlas then, (don't worry about your lack of diverse paints, Loam is one of the best M2 paints IMO), as Smoky goes well with Viking and Twins goes well with Titan (you can dominate Poly CP with Titan/Twins). Mosquito I would only buy if you are into XP/BP, as Railgun M2 isn't great in non-format battles (without a significant amount of skill).

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I've calculated it, and buying either of these kits won't affect my buying Paladin at unlock. But

Don't forget about MUs! The more crystals you save now, the more MUs you can buy right after obtaining your "Paladin"! The sooner you buy MUs, the better you perform. So think twice if you really need a secodn M2 kit.

 

TheRollingSlab: I have edited my previous post, so please scroll up.

 

I'm not convinced to freeze and fire kits unlock at higher ranks. IDK, maybe it is worth waiting? What about twins kits? Is "Cardinal" still available?

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Don't forget about MUs! The more crystals you save now, the more MUs you can buy right after obtaining your "Paladin"! The sooner you buy MUs, the better you perform. So think twice if you really need a secodn M2 kit.

 

TheRollingSlab: I have edited my previous post, so please scroll up.

 

I'm not convinced to freeze and fire kits unlock at higher ranks. IDK, maybe it is worth waiting? What about twins kits? Is "Cardinal" still available?

In Polygon CP people use Fire and Freeze protections, I'm not saying they don't, but they also use Thunder protections as well (I can guarantee that). From my experiences Thunder ain't too effective, people use there is a reason not many people use it in Poly CP. Cardinal isn't great, Guardian, Destroyer, Giant, those are all much better heavy kits suited to Poly CP. Prometheus and Lumberjack are definitely worth the wait.

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Use multi-quote to quote many posts and as well as posts on previous pages.

No point in quoting text I am not referring to directly, as I do now.

 

TheRollingSlab, if my fire dmg is reduced by 30% and thunder damage is reduced by 30%, talking about paints it pointless. Unless people use paints with higher thunder protection than fire protection, which seems unlikely to me (unless they just use what they have, as in my case - only Sandstone and In Love in garrage).

 

I can see twins-titan combo dominating the battle often (especially if healed by isida hidden behind it), so I am surprised by what you said. "Destroyer" is unlocked too late for me to buy it as first M3 kit. I have not found the "Giant" kit on tankiwiki nor in garrage - is it still available? What is inside?

 

I am thinking about buying "Medic" soon and "Prometheus" later, but this way I will not have any medium or long range turret for quite a long time.

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Any arguments to back this up?

You should get what you've been wanting. Like you said you want thunder kit with Thunder protection, then save for another M3 kit; lets face it, another full M3 tank is better than another M3 equipment.

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[`quote name=DragonOfStorms" post="5590960" timestamp="1466776532]Should I save for Atlas kit (Titan M2, Smoky M2, Loam) or Mosquito kit (Wasp M2, Railgun M2, Savannah)? I currently have just over 120k. My current combo is the Minotaur kit (Viking M2, Twins M2, Rhino). Here's my current opinions on both of 'em.

Atlas:

The good

 

1. Smoky M2. Extremely OP, and one of my favorite turrets. I have Smoky experience on my alt, @DragonOfTheMist.

2. Loam's Fire protection is superior to Storms.

3. Titan would give me a heavy M2 hull to use.

 

The bad

 

1. I've already got an OP combo. Do I really need to spend 180k to get more options in non-format battles? Will this equipment actually last longer?

2. Loam is better then Storm, but my paint options wouldn't be diverse.

3. I doubt I'd use Titan much. I'm too fond of Viking.

 

Mosquito kit:

The good

 

1. XP/BP! I'd be able to play format XP/BP, which would be a way to compete with other players on an even playing field all the way to Lieutenant General (), where I plan to buy Paladin.

2. Savannah. Excellent protection against Smoky, a very powerful turret. 20 protection from Railgun, replacing Fracture in every way. It looks so much better too.

 

The bad

 

1. Wasp is superior to Hornet at M2, but still similar.

2. Not really an amazing combo in normal battles. This is offset somewhat by the XP/BP factor, though.

 

 

 

I say just buy M2 Railgun alone so you can do xp/bp instead of getting mosquito since XP is a much better combo (:P)

 

As long as you have xp/bp combo, you will always have a last resort crystal income in case you run into some crystal problems ;)

 

Plus, XP is much better in norml battles too since wasp sucks :P

 

If you want an upgraded Wasp, just save for XT instead :) (thats what im gonna do)

 

Or i guess get Atlas(thats what im gonna do :D)

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