What to buy? Which is better?

[Epic_Space_Mango18 592]

Poly CP is not good for anyone's K/D. It's almost equivalent to a TDM. 

I dipped nearly .20 from 3.77

[r_Maverick7771 3]

I remember when freeze still had the penetration...I was in a Poly CP, and by chance I picked up both DD and DA.  there was a mass of struggling tanks in the middle because a gold box was dropping there- I got 7 kills in 10 seconds :D  I am still unhappy that I cannot do that anymore :(

WOW that is amazing, too bad they have downgraded freeze and firebird because those are 2 of my favorite turrets to use, but they still are pretty effective for me because i'm at the m0 - m1 level.

[MentallyDeranged 740]

The burn time was the defining aspect. The burning was what got firebird a ton of kills. Now that is taken away, and even the increased damage (which is not increased by much) is not enough compensation. Plus, the penetration was taken away as well.

 

hhh keep your facts for yourself.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

WOW that is amazing, too bad they have downgraded freeze and firebird because those are 2 of my favorite turrets to use, but they still are pretty effective for me because i'm at the m0 - m1 level.

Freeze m0 is insane, firebird m0 is a joke.  Freeze gets worse as you get higher ranked because the freezing effect stays equally strong but the turrets and hulls turn much faster.  However, firebird gets better the more high ranked you get because you really start to see the results of the afterburn.  It will get you a lot of extra kills and is useful if you don't want to expose yourself for a long time.

[halbarandthepaladin 0]

Freeze m0 is insane, firebird m0 is a joke.  Freeze gets worse as you get higher ranked because the freezing effect stays equally strong but the turrets and hulls turn much faster.  However, firebird gets better the more high ranked you get because you really start to see the results of the afterburn.  It will get you a lot of extra kills and is useful if you don't want to expose yourself for a long time.

You are right. I have tried to play with freeze m0 and viking m2 on my main acc. and I finished at the first position. It's OP.

 

And a question:

I have seen you discussing about that before, but the opinions were different. Should I give 50k for the twins alteration, wait for the m2 alteration, invest the crystals for MUs or just save? I have 127k, twins m2, viking m2 at captain. Pls help.

[smarty147 171]

whats better: railgun m2 or hornet m2 ( i dont have m2 hull yet)

 and siberian kit or matrix kit?

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

You are right. I have tried to play with freeze m0 and viking m2 on my main acc. and I finished at the first position. It's OP.

 

And a question:

I have seen you discussing about that before, but the opinions were different. Should I give 50k for the twins alteration, wait for the m2 alteration, invest the crystals for MUs or just save? I have 127k, twins m2, viking m2 at captain. Pls help.

If you are at the rank where you have m2 viking then you are just good with freeze m0. I was talking about the freezing effect on m0 hulls-they are basically immobilized. But I assume you were playing with m1 or m2 hulls, so the freeze effect isn't that OP against them.

 

My advice: Save up.  Definetely don't get the alteration until the rest come out. You might regret it.  MU's are not worth the price unless you are a buyer (except for the first step), so I wouldn't do that either.  You'll be glad when you have enough crystals to buy your m3's as soon as they unlock. The extra crystals you can always spend on m3 modules (the lower M's are not worth it).  Alterations don't increase your overall quality but Modules do.

 

whats better: railgun m2 or hornet m2 ( i dont have m2 hull yet)

 and siberian kit or matrix kit?

Railgun m2 or hornet m2? You can't compare a turret and a hull.

The siberian kit is very different than the matrix kit.  I would recommend siberian if you mainly play on small maps and matrix for larger maps...But as I always say, it's a matter of personal preference and playstyle.  You shouldn't select hulls/turret based on how "good" they are, you select them based on how much you enjoy using them.

[XLR 123]

which turret is better of these Smoky, Twins or Thunder

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

which turret is better of these Smoky, Twins or Thunder

Thunder is best at m0

Twins and thunder are best at m1

Smoky and twins are best at m2

They are equal at m3

They are equal at m4.

 

All the turrets are balanced. Don't select a turret based on how good it is, select it based on how well you like it.

 

(except Isida in DMsm, it's worthless)

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

which turret is better of these Smoky, Twins or Thunder

hi ModeLT ;)

 

pick one:

• Thunder fits camper defense + midfield on most hulls

  (because of higher damage at long ranges + splash)

• Twins fits defense on med..heavy hulls and offense on medium hulls

  (because it throws off enemies aim so well in attack and because of highest DPM in defense)

• Smoky is widely used for offense and midfield on medium hulls

  (nice balance between damage and firerate with good impact; good midranger, lacks damage completely on long ranges)

Edited November 4, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[astroid28 1]

Could someone make me a list of what turrets should go with what kind of hulls like BlackWasp777 did but can you make it longer. Like not just 3 turrets but all of them. Especially rico, fire, isida and rail.

[astroid28 1]

 

pick one ;)

• Thunder fits camper defense + midfield on most hulls

  (because of higher damage at long ranges + splash)

• Twins fits defense on med..heavy hulls and offense on medium hulls

  (because it throws off enemies aim so well in attack and because of highest DPM in defense)

• Smoky is widely used for offense and midfield on medium hulls

  (nice balance between damage and firerate with good impact; good midranger, lacks damage completely on long ranges)

 

I found this very helpful but can u also tell me what isida, fire, rail and rico go with?

[smarty147 171]

 

 

Railgun m2 or hornet m2? You can't compare a turret and a hull.

The siberian kit is very different than the matrix kit.  I would recommend siberian if you mainly play on small maps and matrix for larger maps...But as I always say, it's a matter of personal preference and playstyle.  You shouldn't select hulls/turret based on how "good" they are, you select them based on how much you enjoy using them.

which is better to buy next? im comparing them if i should get my first m2 hull or another m2 turret.

i have smoky m1 and titan m1 already and both kits would be good.

im good with both kits, but i want to know which one to get first. i have 66k crys on the account

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I found this very helpful but can u also tell me what isida, fire, rail and rico go with?

Thats not so easy to say; take fire as example:

- on light hull if you attack or deal damage without killing in midfield

- on medium hull if you attack vs good defenses / if you defend / or anyways on small maps like polygon or arena

- on heavy hulls if you play only on polygon or arna like maps

 

You anyways have to focus on 2..3 turrets max in M3, as you cant afford more (except you buy by money).

In the M2 stage it is most usefull if you use just 1 (max 2) turrets, and save for M3s already.

Same numbers for hulls.

 

So.. if you need advice here, you best say

- what maps do you like

- which roles do you like to play (attack, attack support sniper, midfield, defense sniper, defense melee, ..)

- what turrets and hulls you like + which ones you completely dislike

 

Asking like this will give you best chances on good answers that fit your playing style, and not someone elses prefferences

[XLR 123]

hi ModeLT ;)

 

pick one:

• Thunder fits camper defense + midfield on most hulls

  (because of higher damage at long ranges + splash)

• Twins fits defense on med..heavy hulls and offense on medium hulls

  (because it throws off enemies aim so well in attack and because of highest DPM in defense)

• Smoky is widely used for offense and midfield on medium hulls

  (nice balance between damage and firerate with good impact; good midranger, lacks damage completely on long ranges)

 

hey thanks i like thunder :D

[astroid28 1]

Thats not so easy to say; take fire as example:

- on light hull if you attack or deal damage without killing in midfield

- on medium hull if you attack vs good defenses / if you defend / or anyways on small maps like polygon or arena

- on heavy hulls if you play only on polygon or arna like maps

 

You anyways have to focus on 2..3 turrets max in M3, as you cant afford more (except you buy by money).

In the M2 stage it is most usefull if you use just 1 (max 2) turrets, and save for M3s already.

Same numbers for hulls.

 

So.. if you need advice here, you best say

- what maps do you like

- which roles do you like to play (attack, attack support sniper, midfield, defense sniper, defense melee, ..)

- what turrets and hulls you like + which ones you completely dislike

 

Asking like this will give you best chances on good answers that fit your playing style, and not someone elses prefferences

i really want help so here.

 

favourite maps: rio, noise, kunger

favourite roles: midfield (i like attacking but not as much caping and i like killing people with our flag)

favourite combos: wasp/rail, rico/dictator and smoky/viking

lest favourite: titan and vulcan

[JustWatchMe 11]

1. Buy Thunder m1 right now and use it to get decent m2s for New Years

2. Buy Freeze m2 once I rank up and use it to get other m2s for New Years

3. Save and buy decent m2s at New Years

 

I make crystals pretty quickly. Too many "noobs" around here... :P

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

1. Buy Thunder m1 right now and use it to get decent m2s for New Years

2. Buy Freeze m2 once I rank up and use it to get other m2s for New Years

3. Save and buy decent m2s at New Years

 

I make crystals pretty quickly. Too many "noobs" around here... :P

Buy thunder m1. Its OP. Ignore freeze m2, its useless. Since you buy crystals youll be high enough rank to get decent m2s by new years.

[JustWatchMe 11]

Buy thunder m1. Its OP. Ignore freeze m2, its useless. Since you buy crystals youll be high enough rank to get decent m2s by new years.

Ok thanks.

 

Hahahaha I don't buy crystals. Not a penny spent on this account. All of my garage was earned without sales, and I don't no-life. B)

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

WO4 With smoky m1, firebird m1, railgun m1, shaft m1, wasp m1 and hornet m1. Premium and a pretty expensive paint along with more drugs used than a normal wo4 would have at that point. Something doesnt add up here...

[ssANGELOFDEATHss 8]

Buy thunder m1. Its OP. Ignore freeze m2, its useless. Since you buy crystals youll be high enough rank to get decent m2s by new years.

Freeze M2 is not useless- it's really powerful right now. Even M1 Freeze takes 5 seconds to kill a Dictator M2. 

JustWatchMe- For some decent M2s I would recommend Ricochet- it's powerful and hasn't lost much from the update. If you're really hardcore on 1:1 Crystals and XP and can level real fast, then you should save for Twins :)

Edited November 5, 2016 by ssANGELOFDEATHss

[JustWatchMe 11]

WO4 With smoky m1, firebird m1, railgun m1, shaft m1, wasp m1 and hornet m1. Premium and a pretty expensive paint along with more drugs used than a normal wo4 would have at that point. Something doesnt add up here...

Yea i know. I bought fire, smoky and wasp prior to WO2. At WO2, I bought Piranha kit. I left for a month, and so go the "welcome back" package which includes premium and SMP. I earned +20k and 6 golds in 3 days, and so bought rail. now i have enough for another m1 if i wish to.

 

i'm a retired generalissimo, and retired lieutenant general. this is a new account cause of the past "rebalances".

 

you can add me, and i'll 1v1 you anyday. ;)

 

Freeze M2 is not useless- it's really powerful right now. Even M1 Freeze takes 5 seconds to kill a Dictator M2. 

JustWatchMe- For some decent M2s I would recommend Ricochet- it's powerful and hasn't lost much from the update. If you're really hardcore on 1:1 Crystals and XP and can level real fast, then you should save for Twins :)

yea the range that deals max damage is a lot larger. i love rico, was one of my favs from gen. definately not out of the question for a future m2. twins is SOOO boring... i lose brain cells when i use it. plus i dont want to rank up quickly. gen is very boring and practically deserted on the EN servers.

 

do you recommend saving for freeze m2/siberian kit (if it appears) prior to the new years, buying thunder right now, or saving entirely?

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Yea i know. I bought fire, smoky and wasp prior to WO2. At WO2, I bought Piranha kit. I left for a month, and so go the "welcome back" package which includes premium and SMP. I earned +20k and 6 golds in 3 days, and so bought rail. now i have enough for another m1 if i wish to.

 

i'm a retired generalissimo, and retired lieutenant general. this is a new account cause of the past "rebalances".

 

you can add me, and i'll 1v1 you anyday. ;)

 

yea the range that deals max damage is a lot larger. i love rico, was one of my favs from gen. definately not out of the question for a future m2. twins is SOOO boring... i lose brain cells when i use it. plus i dont want to rank up quickly. gen is very boring and practically deserted on the EN servers.

 

do you recommend saving for freeze m2/siberian kit (if it appears) prior to the new years, buying thunder right now, or saving entirely?

K ill add you with my alt, it has m1 railgun and wasp.

[T.O.R_Vlad 8]

Hi guys, I have a question

When I will rank up, I will start saving for m2s, or probably take twins m1 at wo4..

The problem is: Which M2s (kits) should I save for??

I was thinking that i could save for Juggler, since hunter and rico didn't get nerfed so badly (or maybe they got a bit buffed lol), but I could also save for firewall, since i am getting used to fire.. What do you guys think? I think Firewall since it also has a better module which could help me out in poly(yes, i play poly cp)

[george_ace 57]

Now that all the M3 kits unlock at the same time, should I get Prometheus Kit, Boreas Kit, or Ghost Kit. I like all of these kits but my dream tank is Firebird M3 + Wasp M3 + Zeus. With what I currently have, I can afford exactly one of these upon reaching Lieutenant General.