Invalid Convert fully upgraded LGC modules to 50% protection

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

And the ones with a higher value remain useful, but, and this is the BIG but, none of the LGC paints were originally meant to last forever.  You had to purchase a whole new paint, just like you have to buy a not module if you want to exceed certain parameters.

 

We'll have agree to disagree, because that's a NO! The original game balance didn't call for any of these modules to go to 50%, remembering there we're not m0-3 protection levels on paints.  You're talking about putting a lot of 50's in garages that don't deserve it.  If we stick with in love for arguments sake, the best it would qualify for, with a freeze resistance of 18 is m1 maybe, with a max of 25 so to take it out to 50 is counterproductive and ludicrous.  You'll OP the garage of anyone with LGC modules.

 

Aunty

I'm not saying all LGC Modules should be converted from what they are now to Triple Modules with 50%.

 

Using In Love as an example, let's say someone has In Love fully upgraded, that is Isida 15%, Freeze 23% and Rico 8%, now to do the conversion we add all 3 percentages and divide it by 3, that is 15+23+8=46, then 46/3=15.33. That means each protection of the converted module will have 15.33% protection, but that is not possible, so we round it up to 16 each. That mean that a fully micro upgraded In Love will be converted to a Badger T-B M1 plus 1 step. And if you have a Badger T-B of a higher modification, then In Love should be removed from your garage.

[RIDDLER_8 5,558]

Once you own any LGC legacy module, it must remain in your garage permanently.

 

The same thing goes to protection modules with 50% protection. Once you buy them, they must stay in your garage forever.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

I'm not saying all LGC Modules should be converted from what they are now to Triple Modules with 50%.

 

Using In Love as an example, let's say someone has In Love fully upgraded, that is Isida 15%, Freeze 23% and Rico 8%, now to do the conversion we add all 3 percentages and divide it by 3, that is 15+23+8=46, then 46/3=15.33. That means each protection of the converted module will have 15.33% protection, but that is not possible, so we round it up to 16 each. That mean that a fully micro upgraded In Love will be converted to a Badger T-B M1 plus 1 step. And if you have a Badger T-B of a higher modification, then In Love should be removed from your garage.

That same module is already equivalent is you use those numbers to an M0 module no further upgrades possible.. which is exactly where it stands.  You want to change each value to 16 or have some prot from rico and isi, and decent protection from freeze?

 

I don't think I've seen a convincing argument for the upgrade to 50... be it triple double or single... you'd still want to at the very minimum take into account where the paint was placed previously to try and extrapolate an M value and then take it from there.  Saying every LGC module should be upgradeable to 50 is just WRONG. Otherwise I'll get flora and the rest to 50... admittedy I don't use flora anymore.. but I would have expected it to be superseded by now which it is.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

That same module is already equivalent is you use those numbers to an M0 module no further upgrades possible.. which is exactly where it stands.  You want to change each value to 16 or have some prot from rico and isi, and decent protection from freeze?

 

I don't think I've seen a convincing argument for the upgrade to 50... be it triple double or single... you'd still want to at the very minimum take into account where the paint was placed previously to try and extrapolate an M value and then take it from there.  Saying every LGC module should be upgradeable to 50 is just WRONG. Otherwise I'll get flora and the rest to 50... admittedy I don't use flora anymore.. but I would have expected it to be superseded by now which it is.

Why not? A fully upgraded Flora will become a Dolphin S-A M1. And when all LGCs are converted we can do more things with modules, like merging singles and doubles to make triples and then eliminate single and double modules with the exception of Spider.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

Why not? A fully upgraded Flora will become a Dolphin S-A M1. And when all LGCs are converted we can do more things with modules, like merging singles and doubles to make triples and then eliminate single and double modules with the exception of Spider.

Flora was never M1 its a beginner paint... would be 15 fully upgraded, which is what it becomes... so there is no point trying to go for extra upgrades. In other words they match the specs they were expected to cover, upgrading them extra makes them OP

[Guest]

This would make Legacy Modules with protection from 4 different turrets way too overpowered. Actually, I don't know why I'm complaining at all, this is an advantage to me not just because I own some of them but because I've also got a few of them fully micro-upgraded already. :D

 

Legacy Modules with protection from 4 different turrets (16):

 

• Swash LGC-20 (Smoky, Firebird, Twins, Isida)

• Desert LGC-23 (Smoky, Twins, Ricochet, Hammer)

• Sandstone LGC-35 (Twins, Railgun, Thunder, Shaft)

• Loam LGC-41 (Firebird, Thunder, Freeze, Ricochet)

• Winter LGC-43 (Firebird, Railgun, Thunder, Shaft)

• Urban LGC-45 (Firebird, Twins, Isida, Ricochet)

• Atom LGC-46 (Firebird, Twins, Freeze, Hammer)

• Jade LGC-55 (Smoky, Thunder, Shaft, Hammer)

• Taiga LGC-56 (Firebird, Twins, Isida, Ricochet)

• Prodigi LGC-58 (Firebird, Railgun, Thunder, Shaft)

• Nano LGC-59 (Smoky, Firebird, Ricochet, Hammer)

• Rock LGC-60 (Twins, Isida, Freeze, Hammer)

• Raccoon LGC-61 (Railgun, Isida, Hammer, Vulcan)

• Picasso LGC-63 (Railgun, Thunder, Freeze, Shaft)

• Lumberjack LGC-68 (Firebird, Isida, Freeze, Vulcan)

• Africa LGC-69 (Twins, Thunder,

Hammer, Vulcan)

 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Flora was never M1 its a beginner paint... would be 15 fully upgraded, which is what it becomes... so there is no point trying to go for extra upgrades. In other words they match the specs they were expected to cover, upgrading them extra makes them OP

How can it be OP, if it is converted to a Dolphin S-A M1+1? Are Dolphin S-A M1s OP?

[Aunty_Entity 245]

How can it be OP, if it is converted to a Dolphin S-A M1+1? Are Dolphin S-A M1s OP?

Because you bought it expecting it to go to 15 why should it go further now?  If you get to upgrade all that old stock, what about those ppl that can't buy it now?  You'd have an even bigger advantage than you do now.

[RIDDLER_8 5,558]

If LGC legacy protection modules are converted to 50% protection, then they will not be overpowered because protection modules that you buy in the garage are also 50% protection.

[Guest]

If LGC legacy protection modules are converted to 50% protection, then they will not be overpowered because protection modules that you buy in the garage are also 50% protection.

Legacy Modules with protections from 4 different turrets will be overpowered. The whole reason why they currently have very low protection from each turret is because there's protection from more turrets, it's the same principle as Alterations.

[wolverine848 13,097]

Do we have any chance to continue update old protection? I have played this game several years.So I bought a lot of protection before.But some protection high up to 35 or 45.So I hope its can be continue update to 50.

Yes - you can continue to MU LGC modules up to their original max protection value.

 

If LGC legacy protection modules are converted to 50% protection, then they will not be overpowered because protection modules that you buy in the garage are also 50% protection.

4-protections ones would be OP.  That would be 200% total protection = too much.

 

3-protections or less?  Maybe - but would cost lots of crystals.

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

Legacy Modules with protections from 4 different turrets will be overpowered. The whole reason why they currently have very low protection from each turret is because there's protection from more turrets, it's the same principle as Alterations.

 

Yes - you can continue to MU LGC modules up to their original max protection value.

 

4-protections ones would be OP.  That would be 200% total protection = too much.

 

3-protections or less?  Maybe - but would cost lots of crystals.

4 protection modules can stay the same or have less than 50%. And it should not cost anything because it should be done to make room in our garages for possibly more triple protections which are badly needed. They should convert and face out single and double modules for the same reason.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

4 protection modules can stay the same or have less than 50%. And it should not cost anything because it should be done to make room in our garages for possibly more triple protections which are badly needed. They should convert and face out single and double modules for the same reason.

You make it sound as though its possible to overstuff your garage.  Which I don't believe is possible, also they do not require removal as they'll appear at the far right of your available protections, out of the way.  I also believe you are simply looking to get something you didn't pay for.  I re-interate you bought it knowing the limitations, now you expect to be able to change them. If its no good now, why did you buy it in the first place?

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

You make it sound as though its possible to overstuff your garage.  Which I don't believe is possible, also they do not require removal as they'll appear at the far right of your available protections, out of the way.  I also believe you are simply looking to get something you didn't pay for.  I re-interate you bought it knowing the limitations, now you expect to be able to change them. If its no good now, why did you buy it in the first place?

Because those where the only ones back then (alt accounts). I'm not trying to get stuff for free, converting LGC modules to equivalent modules is just replacing them with equivalents..

 

Let's say your Corrosion LGC is fully MUed, now if converted it would become a Griffon T-A M1 with 21% protection, that will be very weak for your rank, but you can start to upgrade it if you want, or if later you buy a Griffon T-A M3, you'll not see that M1/Corrosion again.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

Because those where the only ones back then (alt accounts). I'm not trying to get stuff for free, converting LGC modules to equivalent modules is just replacing them with equivalents..

 

Let's say your Corrosion LGC is fully MUed, now if converted it would become a Griffon T-A M1 with 21% protection, that will be very weak for your rank, but you can start to upgrade it if you want, or if later you buy a Griffon T-A M3, you'll not see that M1/Corrosion again.

WEll you picked a nice one, I do have fully MUd Corrosion.. and I expect to replace it some time.. it still fills a specific role in my protections, until I get something better it will continue to do so.  But I don't expect to be able to bypass those original limits, or that it will work forever.  But then managing crystals has always been somewhat interesting on this account... it was the first, and in face of conflicting early information made some very poor purchases. So you have to make the most of what you've got.  And thats what I do..

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

I don't find this fair at all. If you bought an extremely cheap paint before the Paint Disintegration Update and eventually reached Legend and decided to fully MU this module, you're in a position where you can get an extremely good deal where all yours 10 and 20% protections are converted to 50%.

[Aunty_Entity 245]

I don't find this fair at all. If you bought an extremely cheap paint before the Paint Disintegration Update and eventually reached Legend and decided to fully MU this module, you're in a position where you can get an extremely good deal where all yours 10 and 20% protections are converted to 50%.

I find this most unfair on those that have no legacy modules, and it will make those that do infinitely more powerful or OP

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

I find this most unfair on those that have no legacy modules, and it will make those that do infinitely more powerful or OP

Legacy M3 kits are actually the most OP.

[Pink_Legacy 269]

I don't find this fair at all. If you bought an extremely cheap paint before the Paint Disintegration Update and eventually reached Legend and decided to fully MU this module, you're in a position where you can get an extremely good deal where all yours 10 and 20% protections are converted to 50%.

 

Well, the thing is that they aren't converted to 50% for free. The idea is to convert them to normal modules at a modification and MU level that matches their current protection level , and then, if you want to continue to upgrade it, you can do so paying for the cost

[RIDDLER_8 5,558]

Developers should start thinking about converting LGC protection modules to 50%. My LGC modules are too low in their protection status.

[Akame 4,603]

I see what you are trying to say, i.e converting a maxed in love legacy to a Badger T-B (Isida/Freeze/Rico), but not maxed of course, but into the M1 edition of the module (maxed in love adds to 46%, a T-type m1 adds to 45%). This way, we can at least upgrade it slightly.

 

As for modules like Zeus, if unupgraded, then it wouldn't be fair to give out a maxed module to a non-maxed zues legacy. Also wouldn't be fair to take that 50% from fire away and to reduce it to a ~35%.

 

But yeah, 4 prot modules can't really be converted. And I truly believe that these 4 prot modules should be the only remaining Legacies, would make sense, like forester legacy module, nope not sweet. Rock Legacy, not that's something.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Developers should start thinking about converting LGC protection modules to 50%. My LGC modules are too low in their protection status.

THIS IS CLEARLY BUMPING

 

riddler just goes around his old forgotten ideas and says stuff like developers should do this and repeats what he said in the first post just to get his ideas up the top of this section.

 

He really should get banned

 

#banriddler

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

We are not talking about converting quadruple modules to have 50% protections, maybe 35% would be better, like someone said before.

[wolverine848 13,097]

We are not talking about converting quadruple modules to have 50% protections, maybe 35% would be better, like someone said before.

A number of issues here...

 

How would it be done?

Blanket global change? (what if many prefer legacy as they were)

Example - many bought prodigi because it had huge Rail and decent Thunder protections

Would they want that changed?

 

Costs - all the legcay modules had different prices - some way cheaper than others.

Which modules become M3?

Current M3 start at 250k. Would only LGC mods costing >= 250k become M3?

 

Swash was a cheap 4-protection module with 8-15-10-5 with original max is ~ 12-23-15-10

What should that be converted to? M0 or M1? Certainly not M3 with 35-35-35-35.

 

Current M3x3 = 3x50% = 150% total protections

How to classify LGC mods and convert? M3x4 = 4x35% = 140% total protections?

Seems reasonable... but...

Would you want Raccoon 18-20-25-30  max at 36-30-32-45? (143) to have limit 35-35-35-35?

Or Lumberjack 30-30-30-10 with previous max at 45-45-45-20? (155) new limit 35-35-35-35?

[TakeAShower 300]

Developers should start thinking about converting LGC protection modules to 50%. My LGC modules are too low in their protection status.

Topic merged

 

Stop reposting the same idea.