Summary of the Russian (unofficial) stream with Hazel

[Skills.n.Girls 767]

Well, Tanki is pretty fun when you learn playing, and I'm sad that it has low number of players.

 

Pretty well written, thanks Maf!

[xX-Reborn-Xx 7]

There's a lot more to eSports than hiring referees.

Can you explain in detail please ? 

[Guest]

...and I'm sad that it has low number of players.

Don't be. It's very well under control. Once we've reached our goals for the game, we'll start outreach campaigns again.  :)

[lukey0 27,543]

Don't be. It's very well under control. Once we've reached our goals for the game, we'll start outreach campaigns again.  :)

Thats good to hear. :)

[KILL_BILL_CHAUHAN 2,505]

good questions

[stanzhang 3,291]

Thanks for translating that RU version of the stream to English, as it helped quite a lot of people. Keep writing these articles. ^_^

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Anyway, when the repair kit got a buff from smart cooldowns, nobody complained that the repair kit should become more expensive because it became more powerful, but now everyone is complaining that it should become less expensive because it became less powerful. There's no logic here. The repair kit got back its old mechanics and its old price. If you're one of those nostalgic players, who want "old Tanki" to be brought back, then you should be happy about this change.

 

The repair kit has always been overpriced so not many will complain when it gets a buff. But making it practically useless overnight demands a price reduction. To say what's been said here displays that certain level of arrogance and condescension we've all become accustomed to here.

 

All this moaning about the difference in power between buyers and free to play players has been entirely brought about by greedy developers in the first place. Taking the the 1500 kit out of the garage and putting it in the shop was one such move to widen that power gap. They made it so much cheaper for buyers and so much more expensive for free 2 play players.

 

There is no wonder that many players do not trust a word they say anymore. This is just one reason players leave and for why the game is dying. The devs inability to be straight-up is costing them.

 

Remember me saying this?

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=336264&p=5773807

 

Interesting reading that topic again.

 

Hate to say it but I told you so!

[Maf 32,300]

All this moaning about the difference in power between buyers and free to play players has been entirely brought about by greedy developers in the first place.

Actions that aim to increase the profit from a project can be easily confused with greed, since the two are somewhat similar. I wrote it somewhere in the answers - Hazel would love to remove ALL pay-to-win aspects of this game and make it 100% fair, but unfortunately that would result in the imminent financial crash of Tanki.

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Woah, thanks @Maf! :wub:

[snipincore_tanki 11]

 

Are developers killing off Tanki Online to force everyone to go into Tanki X?

 

 

Not at all. They realised that Tanki Online has massive advantages in a sense that it's a browser 3D game that you can play without any separate downloads, and it has ridiculously low hardware requirements, meaning that even the cheapest, oldest devices can run it fairly well. That's particularly great for releasing the mobile version of the game, since mobile devices have worse performance ability, so Tanki is perfect for it compared to other online MMOs that started off as a PC version.

 

Tanki X lost a lot of its potential when Unity could no longer be supported by browsers. Having a download-only game made it quite unpopular and even now, after nearly a year of open beta it is still far from being popular or profitable.

 

 

 

 

 

 just like an average player, to see what it's like for everyone else. Testing updates with personal experience is a crucial part of game design, so he does it on a regular basis.

 

Just because  a game is less profitable doesn't mean it's bad. "Unpopular," is a very misleading term in your article, one do you play Tanki X to truly write a non-biased article. What happens to Tanki Online in a year of OBT nothing, if you roll out a huge amount of updates it increases lag in flash. I have a 2012 PC and I can barely run the game at 10 FPS. I get 40 FPS in WOT, TO is an embarrassment, though it's ok in copying almost every update from TX. Also FYI we've a browser running Tanki X, it's called PlayKey. Based off Steam reviews Tanki X is way better than you write in your article which is unprofessional. A Pc from 2007 can run Tanki X while, TO can't.

 

Ok postivies about To:

It's P2W

 

 

 

None

 

 

 

 

TO seems like they care about their community but don't.

Edited July 31, 2017 by snipincore_tanki

[dilsharox 2,395]

nice article 

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

cool contest maf

[Guest TSY_the_crazy]

Nice Maf :)

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Good job Maf. #Maf4Reporter2k17

Sorry. Maf doesn't meet the standard of noobness the newspaper reporters have set for themselves. 

 

Don't be. It's very well under control. Once we've reached our goals for the game, we'll start outreach campaigns again.  :)

#MakeTankiGreatAgain :D

[D.a.n.t.e 475]

I guess players are getting old faster these days, there could also be mass marriages going on, and you don't know it, lot of babies because those mass marriages, and lot of diapers to change,  that is why right now there are only 4601 players online.

[emrakul 7,801]

Thanks for translating it, I finally found time to read it.

[Gabe2607 499]

Developers hired professional analytics experts to study the game and come up with an evaluation regarding how badly does this imbalance (between buyers and free players) affect the game. And the results showed that there were actually tons of players leaving because of it.

 

Non druggers gave this advice long ago for free.

 

If new players started coming in, they would soon be demolished by the established old players, and the new players would leave. If the game is to have a second life, this needed to be fixed.

 

Not only new players leave, but also old players tired of druggers. Check in the forum how many opened Topics against them and how few remained... sigh.

 

If the game is to have a second life, this needed to be fixed.

 

Remove drugs from mid/lower ranks. Force everyone to learn how to play first without drugging shortcuts. Right now 90% of Legends are terrible and will remain terrible. Then yes, nerf all other drugs too.

 

It's true that the game is still somewhat P2W, but unfortunately that's the only way for the company to survive and keep the project running.

 

Surviving out of drugs is impossible. Drugs are the cancer of this game, not the cure. A serious Manager will get you a couple of sponsors quickly enough. And if the only advertising you are relying upon is the word of mouth, I am afraid there is only negative advertising around.

 

Now, the biggest challenge is changing the game in such a way, that old players will be able to co-exist with new players in one environment, which is an extremely difficult task.

 

Extremely difficult? General welcome to new players is 12345 12345 12345 !!!

[Maf 32,300]

Two years ago tanki was great and a lot of fun. Then Hazel started with all the changes. Now tanki is not much fun and a struggle to have a decent game. Solution?

 

New CM, which I am glad we are getting.

 

New mods because the ones we have are mostly horrible.

 

New devs (we could only pray)

 

The matchmaking was fine because I got to slaughter 3rd lieutenants. Hope that comes back - that was fun.

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that a new CM and mods would result in the game itself becoming better. The CM has zero influence on the updates that are released. He plays no part in the decision-making process. The mods have even less influence. We simply have a set of rules and guidelines and we use those guidelines to maintain order and help players.

[DontBeGreedy 26]

I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that a new CM and mods would result in the game itself becoming better. The CM has zero influence on the updates that are released. He plays no part in the decision-making process. The mods have even less influence. We simply have a set of rules and guidelines and we use those guidelines to maintain order and help players.

I think he was being sarcastic. He might mean to say that tanki has done nothing to improve the game.

[Zomblistic 74]

This article is very informative and answered a lot of questions I've seen circulating the forums. You should have more of these for us to read. It's interesting to note how many bullets we, the players, have dodged. Dev's do updates, there's no real explanation for them, and the Community gets P.O.ed. If more of these were published, it might cut down on some of the negative reviews. 

[Maf 32,300]

 You should have more of these for us to read. 

Well, it's not up to me to arrange livestreams with developers :D

[DontBeGreedy 26]

Zomblistic - exactly. Devs do updates and there is no explanation except  "down the road" or maybe "sometime" you will understand where we are going. No we will not. I think most of that is the utter arrogance of the people concerned.

 

Maf - if you have a set of rules and guidelines why did a Russian mod ban me for 30 days for nothing? Yes I contacted out chat admins, the Russian chat admin, and the help@tankionline.com and I received NO ANSWER from any of them. I tried for the full 30 days PMing GVA and others. You do exactly what you want to do and you know it.

 

I never received any explanation and I didn't the last time a Russian mod banned me 30 days either. I repeat: you do what you want to do. Who checks your bans and your posts to see if you are doing your job correctly? Who?

It should be the CM to check work of administrators, but unfortunately Cedric comes to the forum very rarely, so they are largely unchecked.

 

More importantly, its their game, they don't care about player satisfaction, so if a mod wants to ban you because you drugged against him in yesterday's game, nothing will be done. Its totalitarianism.

Cedric will always defend the mod / administrator, or more likely, simply ignore you.

[Maf 32,300]

 

 

You notice maf would not answer my question. Who keeps you in check maf?

Left it for later.

I thought you knew that forum mods have nothing to do with bans. We don't even have the power to ban players, on forum or in the game. Even for forum violations the most we can do is report it to our admins, who then issue the bans. So when you come to me asking why you got banned by some Russian mod, I have nothing to say other than ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I always tell players to speak to an admin. If the admin or tech support don't reply, then I have no idea.

As for "who keeps me in check", you know very well that CooperO and Miahak are my superiors, so any issues regarding me or any other forum mod are meant to be passed on to them.

 

 

 

More importantly, its their game, they don't care about player satisfaction

That's completely absurd. It's their game so they HAVE to care about player (a.k.a. customer) satisfaction, otherwise they'll end up with no revenue to support themselves and the project. When it comes to chat mods abusing power, the admins should always sort it out and remove any unfair bans.

[Zomblistic 74]

 

That's completely absurd. It's their game so they HAVE to care about player (a.k.a. customer) satisfaction, otherwise they'll end up with no revenue to support themselves and the project. When it comes to chat mods abusing power, the admins should always sort it out and remove any unfair bans.

 

Is that why 2 of my accounts got a 240 hour ban?

 

One was because I was trying to give some advice to a new player. I guess Admin and the Mod didn't like my advice.

 

The second was because I voiced my opinion. Here, again, I suppose Admin and the Mod didn't like what I had to say. 

 

Both accounts say "0 warning points." I guess that's because I never received any warnings and never had any previous warnings or bans. Sure, I sent the "tickets" try to get an explanation, but never got one. 

 

That's "customer" satisfaction? That's when I stopped putting money into this game. 

 

It was never sorted out, the ban never lifted and my inquiries were ignored. 

 

Right after the bans, I went back and read the EULA and Rules, twice. Scrutinized each one. Couldn't figure out which of the rules I broke. That inquiry was ignored, too. 

Edited August 16, 2017 by Zomblistic

[CooperO 7,956]

Maf - if you have a set of rules and guidelines why did a Russian mod ban me for 30 days for nothing? Yes I contacted out chat admins, the Russian chat admin, and the help@tankionline.com and I received NO ANSWER from any of them. I tried for the full 30 days PMing GVA and others. You do exactly what you want to do and you know it.

 

I never received any explanation and I didn't the last time a Russian mod banned me 30 days either. I repeat: you do what you want to do. Who checks your bans and your posts to see if you are doing your job correctly? Who?

The English moderation team has nothing to do with the Russian moderation team. This also means that we simply cannot answer you regarding a ban you've received from a Russian moderator. If the Russian chat administrator hasn't replied to your pm, you can contact the Russian community manager about it. If there's a problem with any of the English community helpers, you can contact the respective English administrator.

 

As for @Maf and all the other English forum moderators, they fall under @Miahak's and my responsibility.

 

Is that why 2 of my accounts got a 240 hour ban?

 

One was because I was trying to give some advice to a new player. I guess Admin and the Mod didn't like my advice.

 

The second was because I voiced my opinion. Here, again, I suppose Admin and the Mod didn't like what I had to say. 

 

Both accounts say "0 warning points." I guess that's because I never received any warnings and never had any previous warnings or bans. Sure, I sent the "tickets" try to get an explanation, but never got one. 

 

That's "customer" satisfaction? That's when I stopped putting money into this game. 

 

It was never sorted out, the ban never lifted and my inquiries were ignored. 

 

Right after the bans, I went back and read the EULA and Rules, twice. Scrutinized each one. Couldn't figure out which of the rules I broke. That inquiry was ignored, too. 

Did you contact the right administrator by sending him or her a forum pm about your bans? If you did and felt that you didn't receive a proper answer, you have every right to appeal to the community manager about the decisions made.