Testing of Matchmaking System on EU servers

[killer_49 0]

can there be a choice to choose witch map you want to go in? Say I want to go in polygon but matchmaking system puts me in zone. That would be a problem

[Fluffy_Kitten 198]

Steady decline of players in Tanki Online....

Early 2015 = Over 100,000 online

Mid 2016 = 60,000

Mid 2017 = 30,000

After this update = 0

[vegan_donuts 37]

I like the "group" feature, it's great for a whole club of druggers to join a battle and completely ruin it. And you get to go up against the same group over and over. It's so cool.

[wolverine848 13,097]

i agree that they are now. but people major or higher should have nothing to complain about, there already were battles for them with legends before matchmaking. the brackets should remain the same as they were before matchmaking.

 

EDIT: they should be thankful that they have the chance to play with recuits now, if all they want is to play with weaker people and never against the strong

Guess what - there were also battles they could view in advance, find players more of their level, enter the battle and compete.

 

A novel concept, right?

[anuclearbomb 220]

no, they never do, they only send noobs like BlackWasp on here to argue against all our opinions.  this is tanki.  make change, ask for response from player, spend 1 week arguing with players why their response is wrong.

Now I'm going to defend BlackWasp here because he did something that I have never seen a mod actually do on this thread; He tried the MM system with two of his accs and gave us his thoughts. So you have to give him credit for that. Had you said like Viking or that other pressie they had "Moderating" this chat I would have agreed with you. (Although Viking wasn't as bad as that first pressie they got...) The moderators however are doing an... Alright... Ish... Job. (No hard feelings guys, you are cool and all.)

[ImAtWork 141]

i agree that they are now. but people major or higher should have nothing to complain about, there already were battles for them with legends before matchmaking. the brackets should remain the same as they were before matchmaking.

 

EDIT: they should be thankful that they have the chance to play with recuits now, if all they want is to play with weaker people and never against the strong

~24 hours ago on this thread one of the reporters said the ranking brackets being like this was a mistake and will be fixed

[ImAtWork 141]

Now I'm going to defend BlackWasp here because he did something that I have never seen a mod actually do on this thread; He tried the MM system with two of his accs and gave us his thoughts. So you have to give him credit for that. Had you said like Viking or that other pressie they had "Moderating" this chat I would have agreed with you. (Although Viking wasn't as bad as that first pressie they got...) The moderators however are doing an... Alright... Ish... Job. (No hard feelings guys, you are cool and all.)

fine.  but when i read that post i thought it a bit silly to experiment that way when he could get a deterministic answer from devs.

[anuclearbomb 220]

 

 

avoid marshal and up? seems like something kids or pussies would do. what i said above was actually replying to fluffy's reply to another post i made earlier where i said legends shouldn't have to fight recruits... i'm just saying that if you're too afraid to fight those stronger then you must love fighting the weak. not that i think it should happen im just saying they shold enjoy that they can do so right now

 

i remember fighting clan wars against druging m4 marshals at 2nd lieutenant...

 

 

this is me fighting a battle outnumbered and outmatched, against druging legends while never druging(you can check my profile) on 8 fps without sound. how do i do it? i started practising fighting them with m1s so now i can manage with m2s

 

 

Grow up.

 

Also I would love to fight you in a game, because you seem like someone who really needs to be shown that even skilled people don't want to fight a battle that their is no way of them winning.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Ninja
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[iztheman 41]

Please, Please, PLEASE put it back to the way it was! Tanki is perfect the way it is! It's just getting more confusing! Please leave the format the way it is! 

[VaudeVille 1,428]

I don't think it will change anything but here's my suggestion and feedback:

 

1. If we're playing a random battle (by clicking the game mode of our choice) then please allow players to compete with other's of their rank only.

 

2. If we make a group of 5 friends, don't throw us into a random battle and instead let us play with another group of 5. 10 v 10s are often way too messy and we would rather play on a medium sized map with a group of 5 which is why we made the group in the 1st place.

 

3. While making a group, add an option of choosing the format. We can add our friends to the group but the system won't start finding us a match till everyone in the group is equipped with the desired format equipment.

 

I hope these changes can be made as it would make matchmaking a lot more worthwhile. Thank you

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Grow up.

 

Also I would love to fight you in a game, because you seem like someone who really needs to be shown that even skilled people don't want to fight a battle that their is no way of them winning.

funny, sometimes i do win. and if you only fight in battlles where you know you'd win where's the fun in that. do you really have to win all the time?

 

fighting legends is like-- selecting hard mode

Edited August 9, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[anuclearbomb 220]

fine.  but when i read that post i thought it a bit silly to experiment that way when he could get a deterministic answer from devs.

But would you trust the devs?

[Cke1st 102]

:angry: I hate it, I don't like it, and I'm against it for the following reasons:

1. I can't choose to play on the same team as my friends. What's the point of having friends now?

2. I can't check on the progress of my missions while in a battle.

3. I can't choose a battle where the players are close to my rank. Captains shouldn't be forced to play against Marshals.

4. I can't choose a small or a large battle.

5. I can't choose a lightly-loaded server where lag won't be such a problem.

6. I can't choose a map that I like.

7. If the wait time is too long, I can't change servers and find a battle that I can join immediately.

8. The "average wait time" is a lie.

9. When the test started, I had a "Continue" button and an "Exit" button, so if I got into a good battle and wanted to stay there, I could do so. Those have been taken away, so now, if I get into a good battle with skilled teammates, I can't stay with them. I get auto-kicked out of the battle at the end and back to the waiting queue again, and who knows what kind of teammates I'll get in my next battle?

10. The explanatory video is in Russian, and I don't speak Russian.

 

You're going to lose a lot of players if you implement this change.

 

Cke1st, aka Im-a-drugger, aka Chief-Night-Fury

[EsTuFin 0]

Don't like this MatchMaking test.

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- We can't remain in the same battle 2 or more times, just one.

- The time waiting to a battle turn TOL too bored.

- The MatchMaking take me into battle field that It's not to my liking.

- Sometimes MatchMaking has taken me into battles that are in a few minutes to the end, that's not funny.

- While battle we can't see the button of missions to see how much to complete our mission. That is too disturbing.

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WE WANT THE :wub: OLD VERSION OF TOL!  :wub:

 

:D  :P

[TwinsRRUs2 11]

Why change anything at all?

 

Seriously, it works the way it was just fine.

 

Changing things to make it better is not always making things better. 

 

 

"Tanki is trying to do is stay up to date, and make it easier for tankers to find battles" How is it hard to find battles? Who can't find battles? The old way was fine.

 

"Before now, most regular battles we dull and few were full. Now, they're all full. See the up-side?" Battles are dull if they aren't full? Since when? 

 

"Now, all regular battles are full. Missions can still easily be accomplished in them" How exactly is it easier to get 1st place for a mission when the battle is completely full? Common sense says it is harder to get first when there are more people... All MM games are basically for completing missions now, so everyone you are battling with and against are competing for the same missions at times. That makes it more difficult.

 

"You can still choose which map you want to play on, just not for Missions. For Missions, which should only take up about 2 battles of your day," So if my MM battle has 12 players, how many battles must I play before getting 1st place?

 

"For example, what Mission would you get (besides supermissions) that you wouldn't be able to complete within 10 minutes?" 1st Place, XX amount of crystals in ?? battle format, destroy 50 enemies, collect gold boxes, capture 3 flags to name a few.

 

"Someone's gotta be on the losing side in a 5 minute battle. That was the problem before, everyone had a choice, and no one joined a losing team. It made battles extremely useless." I have been in MANY 15-minute battles where my team is up big, the other team starts leaving and then a group joins the other team and completes an awesome comeback win. People do join losing teams, more so by a group of friends or a clan, but it happens. And if no one joins the losing team, the battle will end soon and you click "continue" and stay in the battle and viola, more people join the battle after it has started over. Often times, a few players from the winning team switch sides for the next battle. 

 

"It's possible, and if you feel it's too hard to complete a certain mission in a particular map, exit the map and re-enter." Exit and reenter? Uh, no one has patience nowadays, so it makes most players angry when they have to constantly wait in a queue for a battle only to exit and wait yet again... and again... why not just give the option of selecting your map back instead of making the player waste his or her time waiting to join battles?

 

 

Forcing players to do something takes away the enjoyment of the game. Loss of enjoyment means players will play less or leave the game completely.

 

MM should instantly place players into a map. Why would anyone want to spend more time trying to get into a battle than actually playing in a battle? 

 

If they keep this update, maybe they should give the option to click on a list of maps to join and it will select out of those choices? Or just go back to the way it was and forget about changing the game because it is great the way it is... or should I say was.

 

Why do the Tanki devs have to make it hard to complete missions? They are decently hard the way it is now, so why make it harder? Why continue to change it? 

 

 

I hope some of this feedback helps because I love playing Tanki EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR. I have only missed about 10 total days since Thanksgiving 2013 or 2014. Many other players have done the same thing. That tells me the game is fun, addicting, and doesn't need so many needless changes to "make it better."

Edited August 9, 2017 by TwinsRRUs2

[anuclearbomb 220]

funny, sometimes i do win. and if you only fight in battlles where you know you'd win where's the fun in that. do you really have to win all the time?

 

fighting legends is like-- selecting hard mode

Alright, now imagine if the game randomly selected a mode for you, be it hard or easy.

And no, the point is fun, however, I don't take enjoyment out of being spawn killed by m4 magnums and m4 thunders.

[ImAtWork 141]

But would you trust the devs?

as a player, a big H no.

i would hope they'd be honest with their own staff though (reporter)

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Grow up.

 

Also I would love to fight you in a game, because you seem like someone who really needs to be shown that even skilled people don't want to fight a battle that their is no way of them winning.

i see we use the same turret! sure i can be found in highways battles with legends, if you ever play play with them. i rarely play in battles where marshal is the highest, usually at least generalissimo

[anuclearbomb 220]

 

 

Why change anything at all?

 

Seriously, it works the way it was just fine.

 

Changing things to make it better is not always making things better. 

 

 

"Tanki is trying to do is stay up to date, and make it easier for tankers to find battles" How is it hard to find battles? Who can't find battles? The old way was fine.

 

"Before now, most regular battles we dull and few were full. Now, they're all full. See the up-side?" Battles are dull if they aren't full? Since when? 

 

"Now, all regular battles are full. Missions can still easily be accomplished in them" How exactly is it easier to get 1st place for a mission when the battle is completely full? Common sense says it is harder to get first when there are more people... All MM games are basically for completing missions now, so everyone you are battling with and against are competing for the same missions at times. That makes it more difficult.

 

"You can still choose which map you want to play on, just not for Missions. For Missions, which should only take up about 2 battles of your day," So if my MM battle has 12 players, how many battles must I play before getting 1st place?

 

"For example, what Mission would you get (besides supermissions) that you wouldn't be able to complete within 10 minutes?" 1st Place, XX amount of crystals in ?? battle format, destroy 50 enemies, collect gold boxes, capture 3 flags to name a few.

 

"Someone's gotta be on the losing side in a 5 minute battle. That was the problem before, everyone had a choice, and no one joined a losing team. It made battles extremely useless." I have been in MANY 15-minute battles where my team is up big, the other team starts leaving and then a group joins the other team and completes an awesome comeback win. People do join losing teams, more so by a group of friends or a clan, but it happens. And if no one joins the losing team, the battle will end soon and you click "continue" and stay in the battle and viola, more people join the battle after it has started over. Often times, a few players from the winning team switch sides for the next battle. 

 

"It's possible, and if you feel it's too hard to complete a certain mission in a particular map, exit the map and re-enter." Exit and reenter? Uh, no one has patience nowadays, so it makes most players angry when they have to constantly wait in a queue for a battle only to exit and wait yet again... and again... why not just give the option of selecting your map back instead of making the player waste his or her time waiting to join battles?

 

 

Forcing players to do something takes away the enjoyment of the game. Loss of enjoyment means players will play less or leave the game completely.

 

MM should instantly place players into a map. Why would anyone want to spend more time trying to get into a battle than actually playing in a battle? 

 

If they keep this update, maybe they should give the option to click on a list of maps to join and it will select out of those choices? Or just go back to the way it was and forget about changing the game because it is great the way it is... or should I say was.

 

Why do the Tanki devs have to make it hard to complete missions? They are decently hard the way it is now, so why make it harder? Why continue to change it? 

 

 

I hope some of this feedback helps because I love playing Tanki EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE YEAR. I have only missed about 10 total days since Thanksgiving 2013 or 2014. Many other players have done the same thing. That tells me the game is fun, addicting, and doesn't need so many needless changes to "make it better."

 

 

I can't like your post...

I want to like your post....

I like your post.

Edited August 9, 2017 by Ninja
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[nationals_unbeatable 0]

I've found it absolutly crap. I will often join a ctf on a similar map with a lot of the same players, and it sucks having virtually no control on where you play.

[JoaoxXx 27]

I really didn't like much the new update. I just wanted to do a battle or two to do the daily mission. And then go to sleep. Yes, it can be a good update since you press the button and it takes no more than 30 seconds to get into a battle. Because I'm not the only one who sometimes just enters the game to complete just one mission, make another quick game and then go to sleep, for the other day to go to work. or studying.

 

 

I've been waiting for a while to go into battle. And when I came in, I only had very weak players to my level. Which wasn't funny.

 

http://prntscr.com/g655p9

 

 

 

They could put back in the professional battles the possibility of completing the missions. Or some mechanism that can only complete one mission. And the player chooses what mission he wants to complete in professional mode only. After the chosen one could not change.

I like the professional battle, and as it is now impossible to complete missions in Pro mode, I am obliged to play in the battle dictated "normal". Yes, sometimes it's good to play in the normal battle. But professionals are much better.

Edited August 9, 2017 by JoaoxXx

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Alright, now imagine if the game randomly selected a mode for you, be it hard or easy. this is excaty why it's so fun,

And no, the point is fun, however, I don't take enjoyment out of being spawn killed by m4 magnums and m4 thunders. as if that didn't happen before match making. in fact i think matchmaking made it better because players who leave get replaced by new ones so i don't up getting outnumbered

[anuclearbomb 220]

i see we use the same turret! sure i can be found in highways battles with legends, if you ever play play with them. i rarely play in battles where marshal is the highest, usually at least generalissimo

On a highways? I play withe legends all the time. I play with legends in other maps like lost temple too. You see, once I get into a polygon or something smaller, I'm not going to win against m4 titans. However against m3 titans or similar I stand a chance. I play with shaft hornet, I am a target because people hate me.

[anuclearbomb 220]

 

Alright, now imagine if the game randomly selected a mode for you, be it hard or easy. this is excaty why it's so fun,

And no, the point is fun, however, I don't take enjoyment out of being spawn killed by m4 magnums and m4 thunders. as if that didn't happen before match making. in fact i think matchmaking made it better because players who leave get replaced by new ones so i don't up getting outnumbered

 

Not when they get replaced by 3rd Lts, Which has happened consistently for me.

[IDIDITTOYOU 23]

Hi,

I very much hope this system works but my experience just now is not promising.  Every option says it's a 3 1/2 minute wait with over 150 people in queue.  The only one that worked was quick game where I battled a very weak opponent. 

 

Tanki, are you trying to pack many people into a game?  Maybe you should think about fewer players per game to shorten the queue?  I am just speculating but my cynical mind says that supply use rises in crowded battles.

 

Anyway good luck, I am tired of clicking server after server to try and find a battle.  I must spend 25-30% of my time NOT battling.  (I don't chat BTW).