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please do not implement the match making system update it cause so much lag

i can't play due to lag

and it takes a lot of time to join a battle

i hope you will understand

thanks.

 

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If you jerk developers are so worried about taking advantage of missions why dont just remove it instead giving us this CRAP ? I know those are just public words .all you mother ****ers want to make people to use more drugs and get money .

 

I have never hated fcking Russian jerks and legends in my life the way i hated them in past 2 days.who knows if i see any russian in my country i might kill it for real.

This is reason they dare not test this update on US server!!

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I have come to beleive the HTML5 is a scam .They are just saying it so we except this noob update.like with html5 thiings will be better or something.and haven't heard of html5 since a month.its suppose to come before this crap ,but it isn't.

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Calm down, no need to hate anyone, there's a lot of work to be done about Matchmaking, but I actually enjoyed this test and the system seems promising.

 

One plus is that battles are less one sided than before, because new players are added when others leave, all they need is to adjust the ranks and find a way to balance ranks even when players keep leaving one team.

 

And the 10 minutes make it feel more casual. If it is hard then try to do only one mission, then go play Random Battles for free.

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Steady decline of players in Tanki Online....

Early 2015 = Over 100,000 online

Mid 2016 = 60,000

Mid 2017 = 30,000

After this update = 0

 

They just take the freedom out from player, and more and more players left. And they just don't understand this. 

 

No matter how good about this update, more and more players will quit. No player like to be manipulated.

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I do not post often in the forum, but now, there is a time that i must.

First of all, really? i hope this is just one late april fool joke. As somebody with degree from IT, i would realy like to see the algorithm that is creating the team. when on the one side you have team full of legends, and on the other side generals, m2 vs m4. This is unplayable, for both teams basicly. then, throwing peaople with short range combo to barda, once again, realy? absolutely no chance of picking the map, or to stay in one map for several rounds after i found something suitable. oh and bonus at the end, why the ..... you took out mission button? why I am not able to check mission status while in game? i have to wait until i finish the battle? hopefully, someone will give me some kind of answers, or maybe i will have enough luck to at leas find a good map eith this terrible update... at least for 15 minutes...

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You must be insane to introduce a matchmaking system for ******ed players , leave freedom to join friends as we feel like , the clan system now is useless ! Bunch of incompetent , stop this idiocy !!

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The changes to the maps are interesting and something new but, on balance, this update is bad in my opinion.

  1. I use the Tanki client and the performance after the update is incredibly bad in comparison to before the update.  I have a quite powerful workstation with gigabit fiber and consistently got 60 fps at 1600x1200 full screen with all graphics options enabled before the update.  After the update I was getting <30 fps.  What is not captured in the fps is the complete lack of playability.  I had to turn off many graphics options in order to get acceptable performance.
  2. I play at non-peak hours and the time to get a game to start is much longer than it took me to find a good game manually.
  3. The range of ranks is MUCH too wide.  See below for example.  I would never voluntarily play with ranks more than a couple higher than me and I am regularly being put into matches with high level Legends with much better equipment.  (I have the best equipment currently available at my ranks.)  In the 30 or so matches I have entered, I have only had one game where I had the advantage of being the highest rank.  (I have played with 2 major general accts and 2 third lieutenant accts.)
  4. The matchmaking system is not producing good battles.  In my roughly 30 matches, I have only had 3 which were not a blowout one way or the other.
  5. When you are sent to a battle late, which happens about 50% of the time in my experience, inevitably you are being added to the losing team.  You have limited time to make a difference and earn XP and crystals.  Your base is often overrun and you have little hope of turning the tide of the battle.  The other team's players have likely been in the battle longer and either have overdrive already activated or ready to activate.  The problem is exacerbated by people on the losing team giving up and leaving and new players being added to the losing team's slaughter.
  6. Completing missions is much more difficult, and in my opinion, more difficult than is enjoyable.  I have kept my mission chain going for months on 4 accounts but I will likely stop if nothing changes.
  7. Not being able to choose my battle, my side, and my teammates for the vast majority of my play time takes out much of the fun of the game.

My recommendation is to drop the matchmaking system update and instead provide a unified list of games across all servers that meet the players' criteria.  A simple search where you can choose format, game type, map size, minimum and maximum ranks.  Allow players to save these search criteria to allow them to re-run them in the future.  This is comparatively simple as opposed to developing a balanced matchmaking system.

 

If the update stays, as I fear it will, I suggest these changes:

  1. The performance of the game must be improved.  While not the most realistic game visually, there is no reason with my system that I need to have to disable so many graphics options and still have lower performance than before.
  2. The range of ranks in a battle must be smaller.  Highest to lowest should never be more than 5 ranks and you need to take special care of the major general to general ranks which is the only solid line between equipment levels.  If you don't have sufficient players at all times then the system is doomed to failure and you will not be able to balance teams and make the game enjoyable for all players.
  3. End battles early when they are not competitive rather than torturing players.
  4. Allow missions to be completed outside the matchmaking system.  
  5. Develop a better system for people to be able to play together.

The idea of a matchmaking system is great if properly implemented.  This test proves that the system, as it now exists, is not better than what it was designed to replace.

 

Look at below for an example of terrible balance. 5 Legends on 1 team.  C-R-E-M-A-T-O-R-Y is a Legend 18 and the lowest rank in the battle is 28 ranks lower.  This is terrible and is not going to produce an enjoyable experience for anyone.

 

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Calm down, no need to hate anyone, there's a lot of work to be done about Matchmaking, but I actually enjoyed this test and the system seems promising.

 

One plus is that battles are less one sided than before, because new players are added when others leave, all they need is to adjust the ranks and find a way to balance ranks even when players keep leaving one team.

 

And the 10 minutes make it feel more casual. If it is hard then try to do only one mission, then go play Random Battles for free.

only in your rank noob "battles are less one sided" you have no idea about higher ranks,so STFU.

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Yesterday I said it was awful, today I have to say it's worse than that. No choice, can't see who is playing, long wait for maps you don't want, mismatched ranking. It's just terrible, unplayable even.

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First of all, I am an adult old enough to be your father probably with a high six figure income and I play tanki for several reasons that I am not going to discuss here. Second I run a pc with 16 MB RAM, dual quad core Xeon processors and a discrete NVIDIA graphics card with 2 Mb memory on an HP Z workstation. I play on the majority of the maps but I tend to avoid the short ones and I certainly despise Polygon and Sandbox. I play Lost Temple, Kungur, Solikamsk, Sepruhov, Brest and such. I am not afraid of change and I am not lazy. Lazy is to be dumped in a random battle not to take your time and find the right one! The dumbest thing you said is that "other games do not give you a choice". Well, again you do you want to be just like the "other games"? Then why should I be playing tanki if it is "just like other games"? I might as well play them and not to have to deal with people like you.

Which lag? Where have you been? under a rock? just read the comments if you can comprehend them!

My connection is 125 Mb/s down and 12 Mb/s up with a latency of 8 ms - 20 ms. Is this fast enough to play tanki?

Well in that case make sure the routine programme on your billions dollars toy are not interfering while you play. Some people suggested to have graphics like Minecraft to prevent lags, you might try that too. Funny enough even Minecraft can be under the spell of lag.

When you say the right one you don't mean the one where you can choose the winning side, do you?

Why not try a battle from the start where everything can happen, and with luck the MM will make it even, and if not then work hard to make it a win.

I don't have the best. Computer on the world but managed to avoid lag. When I have it its usually the internet or routine programms and off the day of the TO new update release, which always tend to go back to normal after a while.

How old are you 70? Like my father.

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MM is unfair, ranks are unfair and I'd rather choose to pick which map I personally want to play. Eg, if wanting to practice using firebird/freeze, impossible to play on some shaft/vulcan only map. 

 

#BRINGBACKOLDTANKI

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The Worst Update Yet - "Match Making System" You Developers And Moderators Should Be Ashamed Of Yourselves !!! And You Better Remove This Update As Soon As Possible Or You Will Lose At least 80% Of Players From The Game ...
The Only Way You Can Save This Game Now Is That You Restore Tanki Online 2013 And Release Some Good Updates That Does Not Waste Peoples Money And Time. Because This Game Was Way Better Back Then, But Now It's Unplayable And Too Unfair. This Is Not Me Just Saying, 80% Players In The Game Would Agree With This Opinion.
You Better Either Make This Game Playable And Fair Or Either Stop This Game For Good Without Wasting Peoples Money And Time.

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How old are you 70? Like my father.

And how old are you 50? ;)

 

I guess it's better not to reply to people when they are upset, some one just told me to ST*U. :)

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