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I get #2018.  Now there are more posts than the number of years since Jesus died.

 

All the previous vitriol notwithstanding, I have to say that personally I was looking forward to a MM system and was hoping it would be awesome.

 

It still could be.  This game should be playable and fun by/for ANYONE, not just the mightiest players or the biggest spenders.

 

I'm going to keep a positive attitude until we see how it all hashes out.

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Countdown:

 

7 hours and 5 minutes...

And then I reckon we have about four weeks of the old tanki we love, until they implement the flawed update regardless of how bad it is.  .

Going to make the most of those four weeks.

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Alright it's pretty obvious the new thing sucks. I can just see everybody standing up from their chairs, and walking away from their computers. I'm just gonna come out and say what we're all thinking. The person who came up with the update should get fired. I'm sorry, but we were all thinking the same thing. 

Seriously? what are the chances that Hazel Rah will be fired? As a lead developer, he has single handed managed to drive the majority of the players away, not to mention 2 community managers in 2 years.  Why do you think Semeyon and Cedric have left? They could no longer take the brunt of the backlash of the players and they got tired being the punching bag for Tanki disgruntled players. Have you noticed how silent Hazel Rah has been so far? He knows he cannot defend this atrocity.  This is the only game where what you buy does not stay the same and you wind up spending your money for something that becomes useless.  I feel sorry for those players who have spent REAL money only to see a good game turn into crap and their money gone.  The only way Tanki developers will do what the players are asking is to hit them where it hurts: their wallet.  Stop spending REAL money for a month or until they fix this atrocity and you will see how fast they would listen.  But as long as there are players like Bozo88 and Guido Fawkes willing to part with their money, this crap will linger while most of us would have moved on.

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It seems that the only ones left to play it would be you, the developers and Bozo88.  The rest of us will move on to better games.

Have you heard of the recent fervor over at War-gaming?

 

Nicola M don't think i don't see you rollin.

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Punk"Legacy is right about the rewards system. In fact I will go further. The bad design of the rewards system (before and after) is the reason for many of the features we see today. They are all attempt to patch up the unwanted implications of the reward system. Is Tanki instead fixed the payout system many other worries would go away. In fact they did the opposite. They made teh root cause problem worse with the new top-weighted payout system..

You're right about that..

..but and I fear the reason for the reward system as it is, is to sell more supplies :/

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Alright it's pretty obvious the new thing sucks. I can just see everybody standing up from their chairs, and walking away from their computers. I'm just gonna come out and say what we're all thinking. The person who came up with the update should get fired. I'm sorry, but we were all thinking the same thing. 

Hazel-Rah, as the head developer, should have gotten fired a long time ago, the the money people behind Tanki don't seem to care what he does to the game or the numbers.  Any sane business would be horrified at a drop in customers like Tanki has experienced in the last year.  The joke is that the Forum Helmet Icons (our only real link to administration) sing the tune of natural attrition.  They blindly think (or say) that huge drop in players has nothing to do with crap updates and tragic game changes even though the update deluge coincides with the numbers drop off.  And they have thousands of individual testimonials from their own players saying how bad the updates have been.  It is a serious bafflement from any kind of business perspective.  I believe "insane" might be the operative word.."Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"...and Hazel-Rah is at the helm.

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You're right about that..

..but I fear the reason for the reward system as it is, is to sell more supplies :/

It's like a conspiracy theory where like the government is lizards or something...

Only it's probably true...

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oh cry me a river man. you can leave if you want to, it'd probably solve my lagging problem as well as the too many whiners problem, i'll probably become a buyer if that happens

I got news for you. Even if most of us leave, your lag problem will still be there.  I guess you have not noticed that 2 years ago there were on an average 70,000 players and there was no lag.  Now there are only 30,000 players and the lag is getting worse.  Why is that? Because all the changes made by incompetent programmers created the lag due to flawed programming.  But then again you are too stupid to understand this, so I rest my case.

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oh cry me a river man. you can leave if you want to, it'd probably solve my lagging problem as well as the too many whiners problem, i'll probably become a buyer if that happens

You and bozo the clown are probably the worst possible "advocates" for Tanki.  Do them a favor and stop "defending" them by just insulting the people who love the game but hate some of the changes to it.  We dislike certain changes because we LIKE the game.  Why do you want to alienate everyone.  You and bozo look like you've got about 20 page worth of comments each -- but its still just the two of you (and of course the mods) defending this abomination over and over and over.  

 

Give it a rest. 

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This is pretty good update, the main issue is the lag which has gotten rather significant. I have to minimize my battle screen to almost a quarter or less of my computer screen sometimes and even then it may not work. 

 

I did however like the new map when I came across it once. IT was very interesting.

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You have taken away the single biggest reason why I continue to play this game:  my friendships.  This new format makes it very difficult to battle with your friends.  A very disappointing update---the worst I've ever seen.  There is no balance in mission game---90% Legends on one side, 30% Legends on the other...really?

 

If you make this change permanent I will encourage everyone to spend your money and your time in some other game.

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Why? Is that the only game in the world?  There are plenty of other games.

True. I think of TDP4 sometimes. I really really hope Tanki doesn't turn into that game. 

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I would like the MM system only if it were an *option* on top of choosing your own battles from a battle list. What I want more than MM is to see all mission-qualifying battles on all servers on a central dashboard. That would be a marked improvement. MM as it is, degrades my quality of play.

 

I like to choose my own battles after seeing who is playing, what maps are available, and whether a battle is balanced. There are some maps that I HATE, others that are not good with my hull/turret. I don't like that choice being taken away from me. Maybe if you had more filters, it might be better. At the moment I have to say THUMBS DOWN on MM.

 

 

 

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First they took away our ability to CREATE battles.  (not including pro, which 1) you have to pay for and 2) can't do missions in, which is STILL true with this update on created battles)

Now they take away our ability to even CHOOSE battles (again, where you can complete a mission).

 

So is it that you hate missions?  Then get rid of them altogether.  Get rid of crystals, too except for the top two players on winning teams -- oh, you did that already?   OK, next, get rid of our ability to choose the tank we play in.  Just dump us in a random battle, at a random time in the battle, and with random people on random "teams" with randomly selected ranks -- in random tanks, and no rewards!  

 

Yeah, that's the ticket!!  Hey, can I be a dev?

 

I stuck with it after the "create battle" button was taken away.  Not sure I can stick with it any longer.    :(

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Brazilians have US servers.

 

Posted 09 Aug 2017 - 19:25

south america as wel as continent "america not hte united states of that continent  :)  

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why they transition between m2 and m3 is so big?

Why are you asking questions that make sense? Why does a protection module costs 200,000 crystals? Why an MU speed up takes 7 days or 20,000 crystals? Why do these people call themselves "developers"?Why, oh why indeed!

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This is a terrible attitude for tanki staff to have , let alone publicly display, about tanki players.  Didn't tanki ask for players' response?  And now that they give it and you don't like their response you write a long post essentially putting down all those players' opinions, discounting their honest opinions with words like "blindly hating and flaming"???  WTH, man!

 

And how in the hell are we supposed to "simply dont test the system"?  If there's a way we can choose our own battles while this MM crap is implemented then, please, let us know.

 

No, it's that people genuinely don't like the change ...

 

 

You owe players an apology smdh

It's not only that people don't like the change and that this is supposed to be a test.  What riles everyone is the knowledge, based on past experience, that TO will go ahead and PROCEED with this despite the overwhelming opinion of their customers.   If we knew it was a test and that tanki wouldn't implement it if we hated it, no one would be upset.  It's just the track record of community opinion getting bulldozed that has everyone up in arms. 

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So there are a couple of things I'd like to point out about the new Matchmaking System. 

 

First of all, the unnecessary map updates or something causes me to lag a lot even without any graphics. 

Second of all, I think it would be a good idea to let the players choose not only the mode they want to play but also the map in auto matchmaking system. 

Next, I don't think it's fair that after waiting 1-3 min I get to play with a lot higher ranks or when I'm the only high rank in my team playing vs team with only max ranks available. 

Another annoying thing is that I often get thrown in a battle which is 100% lost. I think there should be some kind of code that would end the battle early and not just throw in more random players in the losing team. As I said above, the matchmaking system doesn't make a fair battle. One of the two teams is most likely going to be a lot stronger than the other. I think a simple solution to that would be to add as many same rank players as possible and make them fight. Or a more difficult option would be to make players play with same tanks - m2's vs m2's or m3's vs m3's etc. League of Legends has a similar matchmaking system and it has been working perfectly for years now. 

 

I hope that you will read my suggestions and try to solve at least some of them!

Best regards, 

PR3D4T0RS.

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