Testing of Matchmaking System on EU servers

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

what! i do not want to wait another 8 ranks to be able to play with legends. i enjoy playing with them right now and i think major and above should be able to as well, this would prepare them in advance. and i have clan mates who have legend accounts, if legends were to be isolated i wouldn't be able to play with them, in fact entire clan tactics and strategies involving them would all go poof

What clan tactics involve using legend/not legend ranks?

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

What clan tactics involve using legend/not legend ranks?

normal tactics? what i meant i wouldn't be able to play with my legend friends anymore if we can't even get into the same battles, rank has nothing to do with the tactics, but they are the people who understand them and they are the ones i have been practising with and they'd have to replaced by other people if they got isolated. just imagine, one day they told you 4 of your clan mates cannot play with you again...

Edited August 11, 2017 by GuidoFawkes

[Bydo 20,141]

ok so i'm not all in for this testing and we all know the issues .. and yea i know this system wont be staying ,that they tested it .. but another one would be added later down the road ..so lets say if these things were fixed then maybe it could work ..

 

such as if they added regular battles to it battle mode ,and added a mission button so we can see missions in battles , then we would have options on which system to use.. also this would cut back on wait time for MM system cause the players like myself would be using the regular battle mode , and also fix the rank system to have certain ranks with there own kinds and not all over the board playing . also not sure why mission pick up drugs were 10 box's and not the normal 5 it made it more a pain having to stay in the MM system longer for no good reason when some players don't have time to battle all day.. also fix the lag...

 

only issue now i'm having is killing players and not getting the rewards for them and yea there in red indicating there my kills but not adding on to my score , this happened before , also been finding Russian players stronger then other players not sure why this is still happening..

[wolverine848 13,097]

Why the heck do u hate this update???

Dont like the MM? Use the goddamn battle list (yes it didnt went away) PLUS it now enables us to get rid of drugers FOR FREE. Seriously there is few more to wish for (besides, of course, missions in non-private pro battles and the option to name them).

The lag i get, but not this. Sure the system isnt perfect, but u are not forced to use it.

So... if I use the "goddamn battle list" I can now complete my missions there?

 

SWEET!

[wolverine848 13,097]

OK, let's see...

 

First of all, you mentioned the choice of map twice. Now, I agree with you that it's annoying that we aren't able to choose maps with this system, but you have to understand that if players could choose the game mode AND the map that they want to play on, it would take ages to get 20 people who want to play the same map and game mode. So you would simply wait longer for a battle. For map choice you have to go to the custom battle list.

 

Choice of map was mentioned 2x probably because it is quite a sore spot with a lot of players.

 

Forcing 20 tanks into every battle seems like a poor decision.

 

Why not have a minimum of 4x4.  More tanks can be added as battle progresses.

Many would have no issue starting a battle at that amount - means < waiting and more flexibility.

And would also allow a lot of maps that are no longer useful.  Sandbox is a favorite and could be included.

 

For me, not choosing map and getting placed in battles with 1 minute left were two of my pet peeves with MM

[ThunderBlasts 0]

Everyone should give it a rest! The "test" is over and they'll change a few things

(to their liking) and then launch the revised "chaos" without blinking an eye!!!

When they do that, they'll realize their mistake...after Tanki goes broke because

of their ignorance and greed! Oh well...

 

...and if anyone doesn't like this comment, you can kiss me where the good lord

split me!!!

Edited August 11, 2017 by ThunderBlasts

[bozo88 450]

Nicola that was a…strange… question.

The God Delusion I have always wondered that too.

Edited August 11, 2017 by bozo88

[Quora 125]

If TX team have reduced time for waiting, then TO can achieve the same. The main issue is that with TO people using the browser need time to load the map, while people with clients don't need to, so browser slow down the process, unless everybody use the client.

That is the issue with Flash, running on so many different platforms. Some use standalone flash too. There's no integrity for games based on Flash. Tanki Developers have to find middle ground somewhere... Either ask players to switch to client or do something to make players aware of pros and cons of using Tanki Client and Flash Player/Browser.

[Maf 32,306]

Why not have a minimum of 4x4.  

I think devs explained it a while ago that this makes the system a lot more complicated, or something. But I do like that idea.

[batatazilla 56]

So... if I use the "goddamn battle list" I can now complete my missions there?

 

SWEET!

Thats exactly what i said isnt it? "Seriously there is few more to wish for (besides, of course, missions in non-private pro battles" Did u even read my post before venting your rage? I too would like to be able to do missions in pro battles and i know that doing them with mm is harder. However the reason for that is the massive druging, not the mm itself. I think it would be fine if they match players with similar drug usage. Nevertheless the possibility to participate in non-drug battles for free is a decent compensation for the missions in my opinion.

[masteroftanki564 0]

The matchmaking service is actually great! I wish I could play in parkour mode all the time like that!

[Crimson_Tank 285]

My suggestion is instead of basing the matchmaking battles on Ranks they get based on weapons. For example, if I was using M1 Smoky and Viking I would be paired with another ranked player that also has an M1. It doesn't have to be Smoky or Viking as long as the turrets and hulls are M1. When changing equipment you can only change to M1s if in an M1 battle or M2s if M2. And protection will immediately by default change to ''zero'' module if it breaks any of the rules, for example an M1 battle containing M2 protection. Upgrades and supplies will not be effected. It would mean more balanced battles, and not fighting M3s when having M1s or even M0s. 

[ByeByeBye 1,747]

OK, let's see...

 

First of all, you mentioned the choice of map twice. Now, I agree with you that it's annoying that we aren't able to choose maps with this system, but you have to understand that if players could choose the game mode AND the map that they want to play on, it would take ages to get 20 people who want to play the same map and game mode. So you would simply wait longer for a battle. For map choice you have to go to the custom battle list.

 

Staying in the game - I agree with you there. I don't see anything wrong with being able to play another round in the same map. Devs would simply need to make a system that fills in the spaces of players that left. Although that might make the system more complicated so I'm not sure if they'll ever go for it.

 

Invite friends and join friends in battles - impossible, as that would open up opportunity for multing and sabotage, which is the very thing this feature is meant to eradicate. If you want to play with friends - make a group (or go to custom battles).

 

Instantly joining - not a problem, because before this update you'd join a half-full map and end up waiting for 3-4 minutes before it fills up. With this system, instead of playing in a half-full map (and potentially getting dominated by the opposite team while they have more players), you simply wait for a couple minutes in the lobby and instantly start a proper battle with full teams.

 

Choose which server you play on - why the heck does that bother you? "Some people like that for various reasons". Care to state at least one logical reason?

 

Mission status - agreed. That's rather annoying.

That is priceless.  The teams are full, true, but full of multi-ranked players.  I also noticced on the second day more and more players would not complete a battle on the losing side because of the low rewards (my guess).  The system frantically kept the battle full by sending fodder from the lobby into half completed games to be chewed up by the Overdrive winning team.  In about three hours of play, I think I saw the start of two battles.  I wasn't paying as much attention on the 1st day but I don't think I saw the start of many battles either.

 

Basically you are sent to half completed battles on the losing team at least 70% of the time.  This is not hard to acheive in the battle list and takes WAY less time.  Choosing a battle from the Battle List might take a bit of time if you are CHOOSING.  But, to duplicate the way Matchmaking works, all you would have to do is click on the first battle you see regardless of time left in the battle, winning/losing side, rank brackets, or map.  Matchmaking did no match making.  All it did was keep tossing players into random battles when there was a vacancy.  I really should be renamed to RandomMatch.

Edited August 11, 2017 by ByeByeBye

[wolverine848 13,097]

Thats exactly what i said isnt it? "Seriously there is few more to wish for (besides, of course, missions in non-private pro battles" Did u even read my post before venting your rage? I too would like to be able to do missions in pro battles and i know that doing them with mm is harder. However the reason for that is the massive druging, not the mm itself. I think it would be fine if they match players with similar drug usage. Nevertheless the possibility to participate in non-drug battles for free is a decent compensation for the missions in my opinion.

Rage? :huh:   What??

 

I didn't use multiple colors and LARGE TEXT.    I used some upper-case, but that was on the word SWEET. So doesn't count...

 

Majority of posters here don't like the "update" so get off your high horse before you hurt something.

[Captin_XLAB 276]

Oh come on get some sense in your head, if more players want the same map, CREATE THAT MAP AND BATTLE AND PUT THEM IN IT, WHAT'S SO HARD?

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

 Nevertheless the possibility to participate in non-drug battles for free is a decent compensation for the missions in my opinion.

3.2k a month for (maybe) thousands of crystals a day? Sign me right the up!

Edited August 11, 2017 by Ninja
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[toe_cutter 4]

Now that we are back to "normal" mode I have to say MatchMaking was really bad with so many of the problems as have been outlined here.  When that goes live it will probably mean my exit from Tanki

[batatazilla 56]

 

 

Rage? :huh: What??

 

I didn't use multiple colors and LARGE TEXT. I used some upper-case, but that was on the word SWEET. So doesn't count...

 

Majority of posters here don't like the "update" so get off your high horse before you hurt something.

So because every one hates i have to hate as well? Gr8 logics there. Yes i was raging, i got pissed at some people saying that they could no longer choose the battles when the devs said over and over again that they didnt remove the battle list and also because nobody apreciated the free no-drug passes. Sorry i dont own a horse and i cant get one at the moment to do that. And sorry if i dont share your hate about this feature but thats my opinion.

 

 

 

3.2k a month for (maybe) thousands of crystals a day? Sign me right the up!

U can also make that much in pro battles, i did 5k once in a single battle (not 999). Besides in pro battles people usualy care more about the fun rather than making cristals. Moreover some pro battles dont require MU or alterations as they are disabled. But even if u make less cristals the simple fact that u dont have to deal with those drugers more than makes up for it.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

U can also make that much in pro battles, i did 5k once in a single battle (not 999). Besides in pro battles people usualy care more about the fun rather than making cristals. Moreover some pro battles dont require MU or alterations as they are disabled. But even if u make less cristals the simple fact that u dont have to deal with those drugers more than makes up for it.

Again, i would rather quintuple my crystal income than play without drugs for free.

Edited August 11, 2017 by railguniz4noobz

[bozo88 450]

U can also make that much in pro battles, i did 5k once in a single battle (not 999). Besides in pro battles people usualy care more about the fun rather than making cristals. Moreover some pro battles dont require MU or alterations as they are disabled. But even if u make less cristals the simple fact that u dont have to deal with those drugers more than makes up for it.

To a certain degree, I thought so too. But I was getting to busy IRL to be able to play long enough to make up the 3500 crystals. I ended up using the PP to create a parkour battle from time to time just so I could kick back and have fun for a couple of minutes on different maps. As much as I hate and despise drugs, I find myself agreeing with [member\railguniz4noobz]

Edited August 11, 2017 by bozo88

[TheBlackChick 319]

Allowing us to play custom battles for free is a good thing, but the benefits are only significant for the more casual players that spend less time in battles.

 

 People can get crystals in standard battles from the battle fund while completing missions as well => More crystals. However, I think people in the medium to higher ranks care too much about the income and tend to forget about the gameplay. They'll just complete the missions in battles they don't like instead of actually enjoying other kind of battles or playing another game that is more fun. 

Edited August 11, 2017 by TheBlackChick

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Here's how:

 

1> You go into the match-making system.
2> You select a mode you want to play.
3> The teams or opponents get lined up.
4> All of these people get taken to an another interface where they can select three choices of maps: Map A, Map B, or Random Map.

 

For example, here's how match-making in games like Call of Duty works:

 

 

 

 

See the map selection interface in the bottom left corner? That's exactly what I am proposing.

 

Note: This is not my account!

 

 

 

 

5> Once votes are up, match-making system creates that map and finally send players to that map.
6> The process then repeats from point number 4. Do note that players can leave the lobby anytime they like.

 

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Pros:

• Right now, a lot of players are complaining about them being sent to a huge map if they are short-medium map players and vice versa. With this version, you can choose your own map, well, to a limit.
• Group play is still supported.
  

Cons:

• Still doesn't give you full choice of what map you want to play, but it isn't actually that advisable to add such thing. Before the match-making system, players complained of trying out new maps instead of the usual Polygon, Noise or Silence. This has happened already, and now they're starting to say that they can't play in their favorite maps anymore. Quite contradictory, right?
  

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And finally, I know that MM is still in development, but an idea like this could prove to be very beneficial for TO, especially when you see it's current state.

 

I fully agree and support this. Very insightful, and devs certainly can't use the "not feasible" response.

 

Can someone explain me on what bases fund is distributed ?

 

Winner take all??? Good lord, that is utterly unacceptable

that's not my problem as long as my team is strong :P

 

It should be - even on your team you got 1/4 of the high score for only 1/10 of the crystals. That's a screw loose in my book.

[wolverine848 13,097]

So because every one hates i have to hate as well? Gr8 logics there. Yes i was raging, i got pissed at some people saying that they could no longer choose the battles when the devs said over and over again that they didnt remove the battle list and also because nobody apreciated the free no-drug passes. Sorry i dont own a horse and i cant get one at the moment to do that. And sorry if i dont share your hate about this feature but thats my opinion.

Never said you had to hate it. And not sure why you get upset at people who don't like it. You like it fine. Others don't and that's fine too.

 

Devs said over-and-over they didn't remove the battle list - partially correct.

They did remove the battle-list from battles where we can complete our missions. Important fact that keeps getting left out.

[RIDDLER_8 5,553]

Can the matchmaking system give players the ability to customize maps before playing in matchmaking battles?

[Boeing747-800plane 6]

OK, let's see...

 

First of all, you mentioned the choice of map twice. Now, I agree with you that it's annoying that we aren't able to choose maps with this system, but you have to understand that if players could choose the game mode AND the map that they want to play on, it would take ages to get 20 people who want to play the same map and game mode. So you would simply wait longer for a battle. For map choice you have to go to the custom battle list.

 

Staying in the game - I agree with you there. I don't see anything wrong with being able to play another round in the same map. Devs would simply need to make a system that fills in the spaces of players that left. Although that might make the system more complicated so I'm not sure if they'll ever go for it.

 

Invite friends and join friends in battles - impossible, as that would open up opportunity for multing and sabotage, which is the very thing this feature is meant to eradicate. If you want to play with friends - make a group (or go to custom battles).

 

Instantly joining - not a problem, because before this update you'd join a half-full map and end up waiting for 3-4 minutes before it fills up. With this system, instead of playing in a half-full map (and potentially getting dominated by the opposite team while they have more players), you simply wait for a couple minutes in the lobby and instantly start a proper battle with full teams.

 

Choose which server you play on - why the heck does that bother you? "Some people like that for various reasons". Care to state at least one logical reason?

 

Mission status - agreed. That's rather annoying.

If you cared about the players on this game, you would realize that some people's computers can't handle certain servers so they lag out when they play on it.

Edited August 12, 2017 by CooperO
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