Testing of Matchmaking System on EU servers

[pardoes 15]

After Months not playing at all, recently I started doing a couple of missions again.

 

Now today after this update I have finished a mission picking up 5 speed boxes as follows.

 

After waiting 2 minutes to be allowed to play a random cp game.

First game I was able to pickup 4 speed boxes (and get some cp experience for a second mission). The game ended. I could not continue. I was one of the higher ranks, because I refuse to use supplies it is still not easy.

 

I am Lieutenant General.

Next game I could enter quick, I was in a team with my kind of rank and lower up to 2 or 3 red stars. We were up against  a team with 11 legends and one of them something lower.

While I was being killed I spotted a 5th speed box, managed in the last second of being killed to catch it and left. Time in the game maybe 3 seconds.

 

I did not try to get more cp experience.

 

That is it for today.

[TwinsRRUs2 11]

CONS of the update:

 

-I cannot choose which map to play. I can choose the game type but not the map, so if I am a Shaft Mammoth and sends me to a Highland map, I am really dead. I want to choose the map to play!!

-I waited 4min to enter a CTF game

-When inside the game, it was so so lagged that I was killed even before the page finished to load

-Groups are pretty useless because the chance of being with a friend in the same game reduces the more friends are in the same game type in the channel

 

PROS:

-Nice to be with more balanced ranks

 

 

MY OPINION OF WHAT TO DO:

-Revert the update, go back to yesterday's system.

-Make a rule that battle rooms can only support 3 ranks, i mean for now there are rooms that support players form 5 different ranks, reduce that to 3 or 4.

-Mantain the auto balance system please

-When pressing Battle button, make us able to create a room (no random one) and selecting just 2 things: game type and map.

 

 

JUST REDUCE THE LAG, AND MAKE US ABLE TO CHOOSE WHICH ROOM TO GO. NOT ONLY GAME TYPE

 

Thanks :)

Your only PRO is wrong since it doesn't even balance out the ranks! (At least in the 5 or so battles I played a little bit ago. I posted a screen shot of one above.)

 

All CONS for this 48 hour test! :'(

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Why does it make unfair battles? So many Legends and high ranks vs mostly low ranks.

 

No choice over what battle I choose for missions? Please get rid of this and go back right away!

The high-low rank issue should be fixed. I don't think the devs intended for that to happen. Having WOs play with Legends isn't the best idea. Missions can be done in MM battles without too much difficulty. What made it harder now?

[sticky_liquid 0]

I share most of the views with davidvpcol

 

Lack of choice of which map I want to play - big backward step

Often too long to get in to a battle - massive backward step

 

Those two alone could quite easily make me look elsewhere for tank games

[ImAtWork 141]

As I said earlier. MM system is a system many games already have. Press a button and play anything, be surprised. Without the system, it's harder to find regular good battles. Most regular battles would be dull and rarely full. Now, all regular battles are full. Missions can still easily be accomplished in them. I completed two of mine within the first hour.

and you noticed we were playing your game, not theirs, right? ;-) does that give u a hint?

 

an hour??  a freaking hour???  In an hour I do all missions for 4 accouts

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Every match I entered had legend rank players which were crushing me. Bring the old system back and let the players join battles and choose the ranks they play against.

Like I said above:

 

"The high-low rank issue should be fixed. I don't think the devs intended for that to happen. Having WOs play with Legends isn't the best idea."

[kerr101 1]

Not a fan of this update. Pretty bad 

[ImAtWork 141]

if this update truly was intended to improve player experience, it's becoming abundantly clear that devs aren't players

[OKDad70 862]

You want thoughtful feedback. Well, read it then.

 

I have only played two battles so far, and I'm so disappointed that I'm debating continuing. I've been on the verge of abandoning Tanki since the overdrive installation. It has been poor, occasionally barely fun, since The Great Leveling last October. This does it for me. If it doesn't get better, I can't stand it.

 

I played two battles, DM, with the match-make on my Ricosck secondary account. Ricosck is General with M2 equipment. I entered three battles with Legends through about Colonel. I can't image how the match making system puts low M2s with full M4s. (I bailed on the first one after a few seconds to reboot. It seemed necessary, but probably wasn't.)

 

First, why the spread? With M2 equipment, I'll admit I'm good, but up against M4s, heck, it was astonishing to me that I was able to keep my D/L above 1 in both matches. I have a first-place mission. I typically play 30 to 70 minutes on the Ricosck account each day, and I can count on a first at least once. Not against M4s, not with less than ten minutes in the battle. I was middle of the pack, but 1st is not possible in the given situation. There are no battles available in the battle list. Maybe one or two, mostly format. The ones that aren't format are Pro, so no mission accomplishment even if I get first.

 

I didn't have any trouble getting the DM mission. I will get the kills mission with patience, but as is, I cannot hope to get the 1st place mission. That ticks me off. I never have trouble with first place missions! (Sure, I can change it, but I play for first every time. It is simply an unacceptable option to change it.)

 

Being placed into a battle with less than half remaining is frustrating. It isn't fun. One cannot truly affect the battle with only five minutes remaining, and the crystals are hardly worth the effort. Two minutes waiting, five minutes playing, and then forced out. Not fun. Why no choice to remain?

 

My first request for the battles queue is options. If I have to get shoved into random battles, can I at least have battles with more than 10 minutes remaining? I can see the default being first-available-battle, but can't I have an option to set an option that bypasses me in the queue if a five-minutes-battle opens? Can I set an option to not join battles with isida? (Isida stink--make it hard to breathe. Heck, isida alone is almost enough to make me abandon Tanki.)

 

Now, my big gripe has nothing to do with matchmaking system, which is part of why it is such a big gripe: Why the hell did you change the maps for this experiment!!!?!?!!!

 

First rule of test: Change as little as possible to isolate the effect being tested!

 

Crap guys. This is dumb. Seriously dumb. Brain-dead dumb. I gave up hope that you care what we think, but you cannot be thinking at all when you change the maps for the test!

 

As a General with M2 equipment fighting M4s, I was already at a severe disadvantage. 

 

With new maps that I do not know, heck, why bother. Seriously. Do you actually want all the experienced players to leave?

 

Is it only the newbies that give you any hope?

 

 

I'm going to play some more, with Ricosck and with my regular Dad account. As a full M4, I'll be at no disadvantage, perhaps I will get to bully M2s myself. (Not fun, really, but good for the D/L.) I'll still be trying to back around corners that aren't there, trying to dodge behind cover that isn't there, and wondering why the narrow doorway is now wide enough for three tanks. It is crap!

 

I really cannot believe you changed the maps for this test. It really is stupid. Stupid is as stupid does, and I cannot imagine a more unjustifiable change to the game for testing the new matchmaking system.

 

It seems to me you have chosen certain problems to fix, and you are focusing on those problems at the expense of all else. The game is no longer fun. That is your biggest problem. That is what you need to fix.

 

I'll write more after I play more.

[TwinsRRUs2 11]

As I said earlier. MM system is a system many games already have. Press a button and play anything, be surprised. Without the system, it's harder to find regular good battles. Most regular battles would be dull and rarely full. Now, all regular battles are full. Missions can still easily be accomplished in them. I completed two of mine within the first hour.

Unfortunately I don't have an hour to play every night to complete missions. Sometimes I am only able to play about 15 to 30 minutes. 

 

Does everyone enjoy FULL battles? I personally hate full battles and when creating battles, I lower the player amount to about half. A battle that is not full is not dull. A battle with only 2 - 4 players can be dull though, unless you are all battling hard.

 

I am a male... most males do not like surprises... ;)

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

I share most of the views with davidvpcol

 

Lack of choice of which map I want to play - big backward step

Often too long to get in to a battle - massive backward step

 

Those two alone could quite easily make me look elsewhere for tank games

You can still choose which map you want to play on, just not for Missions. For Missions, which should only take up about 2 battles of your day, you've gotta play a random map. Is that really that bad?

 

and you noticed we were playing your game, not theirs, right? ;-) does that give u a hint?

 

an hour??  a freaking hour???  In an hour I do all missions for 4 accouts

I knew I should've reworded that. I meant within an hour of SU. I only got on 40 minutes late. I did the missions in 10 minutes.

[Spurger 174]

Like I said above:

 

"The high-low rank issue should be fixed. I don't think the devs intended for that to happen. Having WOs play with Legends isn't the best idea."

I think it's stupid not to have thought about this ahead of time. Keep it up. Baghdad Bob would be impressed.

Edited August 8, 2017 by Spurger

[davidvpcol 35]

 Missions can be done in MM battles without too much difficulty. What made it harder now?

That before I could choose which map to enter and complete the mission, now I am in a random map that may not let me complete the mission. As I said before, in this account I am a Mammoth hull with Shaft turret, with a module vs long range tanks. Most missions I do are on long range maps, as Highways, Brest, etc. But now the system sends me to Highland, Parma, etc which are made for little fast tanks.

 

Give us back the ability to choose which map to enter, please!

 

And to create rooms and just JUST be able to select game type and map.

 

The other parameters no one really cares much about

[the_dark_defender3 30]

 

So, as a player what do I think of the new matchmaking system?  I have to say that I am absolutely unimpressed with it.

 

For starters, my time is absolutely valuable.  So, sitting at the monitor watching a counter count down and inconsistant count only impresses upon me the amount of time that I am wasting.  Furthermore, the last three battles I tried to gain access to.  I was in a holding pattern purgatory.

 

Next complaint.  The matchmaking system was supposed to make the battles rank and file system blows chunks.  I have to say that the player rank spread was too far apart.

 

I don't enjoy being bumped out of the system after every battle.  Plus, I don't like not being able to access my missions during game play

 

 

So, as a player what do I think of the new matchmaking system?  I have to say that I am absolutely unimpressed with it.

 

For starters, my time is absolutely valuable.  So, sitting at the monitor watching a counter count down and inconsistant count only impresses upon me the amount of time that I am wasting.  Furthermore, the last three battles I tried to gain access to.  I was in a holding pattern purgatory.

 

Next complaint.  The matchmaking system was supposed to make the battles rank and file system blows chunks.  I have to say that the player rank spread was too far apart.

 

I don't enjoy being bumped out of the system after every battle.  Plus, I don't like not being able to access my missions during game play.

 

Oh, Come on now! Do you really think that the developers bother with these "insignificant" details you listed here? If they did they would have taken them away in the first place! Who are you to tell the developers how the game will function? After all you are just a player who has no clue about development (neither do the developer themselves apparently!) Sarcasm aside, among the points you make, you forgot to mention that you cannot select the map you will play, you cannot see your opposition before hand, and you cannot check the progress of your mission during the battle! In other words, This "update" blows.

[Protosphere 0]

[Protosphere 0]

is this battle even to you guys?

Edited August 8, 2017 by Protosphere

[ImAtWork 141]

You can still choose which map you want to play on, just not for Missions. For Missions, which should only take up about 2 battles of your day, you've gotta play a random map. Is that really that bad?

But what about super missions?

[davidvpcol 35]

How can I tag another player? :P

[xox 10]

 Hi Tanki Online,

 

I do not like the new matchmaking system. Remember that I do not mean this adversely! 

 

The new matchmaking is with dissemination drawn up. I heard that the matchmaking system should make the game (alleged) more easier. 

I do not see this! 

 

Instead of showing the regular gamemodes you should better show the specific gamemodes like; XP/BP, XP, Parkour. You can make more pushbuttons for CTF, DM etc. (next to 'missions' and 'group'). 

Right now it is more childishly complicated...

 

For me it is a fail, sorry.

 

Greets,

Boo 

 

I forgot something to say: the waiting time of playing a battle when clicking on one of the gamemodes is wasting of time... 15 a 20 seconds of wasted time every time agian. 

 

Other things:

1: The battles I join are under 5 minutes...

2: Mostly losing sides

3: Same map over and over again...

 

 

So, please, replace the old system. (current one we always have been using)

Edited August 8, 2017 by xox

[Marmite555 0]

this update is soooooo so bad. Maps become boring quickly. Ive played 5 games and ended up on the same map 3 times, one of the games i entered the game with only 14secs to go.....lol...what a waste of time, i havent played a full game since the update! I think the longest game i had was 1.30mins...

Edited August 8, 2017 by Ninja
Refrain from using inappropriate language.

[the_dark_defender3 30]

I think it's stupid not to have thought about it ahead of time. Keep it up. Baghdad Bob would be impressed.

Ahahaaaaaaa! I do not think he is old enough to know who Baghdad Bob is! "his famous quote: "they are committing suicide before the gates of Baghdad" That was just a few minutes before he had to cut and run the live press conference because the American forces were literally outside his door!

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

But what about super missions?

Super missions aren't made to be done in a day...

[ImAtWork 141]

 

Tankers!

 

With tomorrow’s server restart, we’ll be implementing a test version of the Matchmaking System on all EU servers.

 

The test is intended to run for 48 hours, till 02:00 UTC on Thursday 10th. However, developers might decide to end the test earlier if it causes any kind of undesirable effect on the game.

 

The reason the test is being run on the main EU servers instead of just the test server, is that we would like to see how it performs with a real server load and player distribution, rather than in the controlled environment of a test server.

 

Watch the video below to learn more about the test:

 

 

Don’t forget to share your feedback in the forum!

 

P.S. The test will be carried out exclusively on EU servers, and will not be run on US servers.

 

... posting a Russian-language video in an English-language forum ... priceless

Edited August 8, 2017 by Ninja
Please use spoilers when quoting large posts.

[OKDad70 862]

I can't keep up with the comments.

 

Typically, I play two accounts for 30 to 70 minutes each per day. Usually less than 90 minutes total (more on some weekends). Some days, I don't have time for more than one battle. I count on being able to get at least one mission done in less than 20 minutes. I never have problems doing that. I almost never have difficulty accomplishing all three missions in less than 45 minutes.

 

If people think an hour for two missions is okay, well, I don't. I won't keep playing if that much time is required just to accomplish missions.

 

Of course, if it was fun, then it wouldn't bother me. With the fun meter running less than the frustration meter, only accomplishments (and ever diminishing hope) keep me playing.

 

I had high hopes. This first trial has crushed them.

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

That before I could choose which map to enter and complete the mission, now I am in a random map that may not let me complete the mission. As I said before, in this account I am a Mammoth hull with Shaft turret, with a module vs long range tanks. Most missions I do are on long range maps, as Highways, Brest, etc. But now the system sends me to Highland, Parma, etc which are made for little fast tanks.

 

Give us back the ability to choose which map to enter, please!

 

And to create rooms and just JUST be able to select game type and map.

 

The other parameters no one really cares much about

Finally, a good point well explained. Thanks for the feedback, I'll ask about it.