Declined Adding Isida's Self-Heal Back As An Alteration

[Intelligent 24]

I think Isidas selfheal should come back as an alteration but reducing damage by 20% and Reload time by 10%. I think many players were sad to see it go and maybe bringing it back as an alteration would be interesting.If it still is too Overpowered maybe decrease damage and range a bit more :)

[Hate 5,582]

Declined.

 

Isida's self-healing was removed for a reason because the Turret was really powerful especially with supplies therefore, the developers wanted to make a bigger distinction between Isida’s roles of “fighter” and “medic”. For this reason, they have completely removed self-healing. So, after the update they released, Isida was no longer able to use “vampirism”, which was supposed to fix the issue with exaggerated self-healing using supplies.

 

To compensate for the removal of the self-healing mechanic, the update that came after that greatly increased Isida’s damage, giving it the highest DPM among the other close-combat weapons Freeze and Firebird. And to make targeting easier, they also narrowed its attack cone slightly and made changes in Isida’s Alterations.

 

Having the option back even as a alteration won't cut it, I'm afraid.

[Cyborg 3,189]

Well, then everyone will buy this Alteration, and use Isida like its old state. It defy's the purpose of removing the self-heal in the first place.

[I-Hate-Druggers 192]

Well, then everyone will buy this Alteration, and use Isida like its old state. It defy's the purpose of removing the self-heal in the first place.

Well, then everyone will buy stable plasma alteration and use twins like its old state. It defy's the purpose of adding self damage in the first place. :P

[Pink_Legacy 269]

Well, then everyone will buy this Alteration, and use Isida like its old state. It defy's the purpose of removing the self-heal in the first place.

You mean like Stable Plasma?

 

Oh, sorry, I hadn't seen the previous post.

[Cyborg 3,189]

Well, then everyone will buy stable plasma alteration and use twins like its old state. It defy's the purpose of adding self damage in the first place. :P

 

You mean like Stable Plasma?

 

Oh, sorry, I hadn't seen the previous post.

Many people prefer to play without Stable Plasma, because when shooting a group of tanks you can make multiple kills. So right now both the versions are in use and quite liked by different groups of people. But if this Isida alteration is added, then why should anyone use the Non-Self heal version? :D 

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

They nerfed railgun because they said it was too op, then released an alteration which made railgun get back its old stats...

 

on overall i'd call it a buff, because after this you could turn the alteration on and off dependimg on the situation. if most of the enemy are wasp hornets , turn it on. if they're fat tanks turn it off.

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

I partially agree with this idea. I think a form of vampirism could be "resurrected," so to speak but would need to be counteracted by some rather severe drawbacks. Perhaps vampirism at the cost of some damage/healing?

[T-34-3m 360]

Yes, they made it less of an offensive turret by making the attack higher to compensate. .-. To be fair though, they did make Freeze stronger as well and make Firebird more reliant on getting close and leaving burns.

[Pink_Legacy 269]

Many people prefer to play without Stable Plasma, because when shooting a group of tanks you can make multiple kills. So right now both the versions are in use and quite liked by different groups of people. But if this Isida alteration is added, then why should anyone use the Non-Self heal version? :D

More damage for a longer period of time?

 

If the trade-off is interesting, I can't see why not.

[Intelligent 24]

Maybe you could decrease damage quite significantly?

[I-Hate-Druggers 192]

Many people prefer to play without Stable Plasma, because when shooting a group of tanks you can make multiple kills. So right now both the versions are in use and quite liked by different groups of people. But if this Isida alteration is added, then why should anyone use the Non-Self heal version? :D

Are you serious? No one likes twins with self damage. It's literally the worst thing ever. The splash damage almost never comes in handy except when there is a enemy next to you and you want to kill yourself. 

[Magenta 5,165]

...when shooting a group of tanks you can make multiple kills. 

That's kinda rare and wrong. As a twins player myself, let me tell you the tale - killing around corners. Everyone runs from twins, and then they run behind some obstacle. Often, the splash enables us to do some slight damage, and it's more than often enough to kill, because while they were running  they ran zig zag due to twins' high impact force, thus received more shots.

 

Anyway, thats all just trivia.

[Cyborg 3,189]

Are you serious? No one likes twins with self damage. It's literally the worst thing ever. The splash damage almost never comes in handy except when there is a enemy next to you and you want to kill yourself. 

Its just about how you use it. I use twins most of the time without the alteration because its just more powerful (to me at least) and I always end up first in my team. I only use the alteration in DMs or Supply OFF battles where I want to keep every single HP with me.

[I-Hate-Druggers 192]

Its just about how you use it. I use twins most of the time without the alteration because its just more powerful (to me at least) and I always end up first in my team. I only use the alteration in DMs or Supply OFF battles where I want to keep every single HP with me.

You got to be kidding me. Why are you defending tanki every time and not acknowledging mistakes or true facts. Any reasonable person would know that's the alt is a necessity.

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

Are you serious? No one likes twins with self damage. It's literally the worst thing ever. The splash damage almost never comes in handy except when there is a enemy next to you and you want to kill yourself.

 

I actually bought the Twins alteration and prefer not to use it. The splash comes in handy when shooting groups and the splash is so minimal that even if you do get close enough to inflict self-damage, it's rather small. Also, you can simply take Twins prot. to minimise self-damage.

[I-Hate-Druggers 192]

I actually bought the Twins alteration and prefer not to use it. The splash comes in handy when shooting groups and the splash is so minimal that even if you do get close enough to inflict self-damage, it's rather small. Also, you can simply take Twins prot. to minimise self-damage.

 

Prefer not to use it? What a lie. Splash almost never comes in handy. I mean when was the last time you attack a bunch of enemies? Never, because they'll kill you. I only use twins and I've never gotten a multi kill. In fact there's barely any time I damage multiple people. And it's not small. Twins is a dps master so you'll definitely self destruct. Please refrain from defending someone simply because they are staff.

[Cyborg 3,189]

Prefer not to use it? What a lie. Splash almost never comes in handy. I mean when was the last time you attack a bunch of enemies? Never, because they'll kill you. I only use twins and I've never gotten a multi kill. In fact there's barely any time I damage multiple people. And it's not small. Twins is a dps master so you'll definitely self destruct. Please refrain from defending someone simply because they are staff.

Lol, so if my play style is something different than yours. And I do not agree to your view then I am defending Tanki. Interesting.

 

You gotta realize that not everyone plays or likes to play like you do. Some people also use Isida Mammoth in Kungur and they like it, would you say they're defending Tanki as well? Same for me, I like to play without the alteration and so does Marc. If he's agreeing to me it doesn't mean he is defending me, I don't need that. It just means we have the same playing styles.

[marc.jp_44 20,837]

Please refrain from defending someone simply because they are staff.

Please refrain from attacking someone simply because they have a different playing style to you.

[Hate 5,582]

I'm sorry to disappoint both of you but I never liked and will never like the splash damage they did to Twins and I always and always use the alteration so I can get close to my enemies without worrying about anything such as taking damage from my own Turret or even self-destructing. I guess everyone to their own style of playing.  

[T-34-3m 360]

Why did they do that anyways? Maybe to make it similar to Striker?

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

 

 

 

 

mods and reporters and whatever... stay on topic please. from isida to twins alteration to twins playing style to defending whoever... take this to pm please

[I-Hate-Druggers 192]

Lol, so if my play style is something different than yours. And I do not agree to your view then I am defending Tanki. Interesting.

You gotta realize that not everyone plays or likes to play like you do. Some people also use Isida Mammoth in Kungur and they like it, would you say they're defending Tanki as well? Same for me, I like to play without the alteration and so does Marc. If he's agreeing to me it doesn't mean he is defending me, I don't need that. It just means we have the same playing styles.

No, isida mammoth makes sense but using twins with self damage is just a lie. Multi kills never happened once. Even people with thunder rarelt get multis. And how is there a different playstyle of self damage twins? You mean like going to groups of tanks and getting yourself killed?

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

Twins alteration exists because it's not game-breaking.

Isida's proposed alteration does not exist because it would be game-breaking. Self-heal is a difficult thing to balance (according to devs).

[Misery 1,415]

So to decrease isida's role as a Fighter, they made it a hugely powerful fighter?