F-22 Raptor vs Su-35

[MIG-25P 4]

Su - 35, no doubt. Everyone knows that exept USA :). Besides, the price of f22 and the price of technical support.......

And moreover, we already have one T-50. In 2015 there will be about 50. This is the 5++ generation.

50 t-50 with russian economy? funny ... russian army still have t-62 main battle tanks .... also in russian army is still ''dedovishna'' (i dont know how it translate in english) .... i can continue if you want :)

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Su - 35, no doubt. Everyone knows that exept USA :). Besides, the price of f22 and the price of technical support.......

And moreover, we already have one T-50. In 2015 there will be about 50. This is the 5++ generation.

50 t-50 with russian economy? funny ... russian army still have t-62 main battle tanks .... also in russian army is still ''dedovishna'' (i dont know how it translate in english) .... i can continue if you want :)

 

There is Dedovshina in each army :). It makes our soldiers stronger (in majority of cases). Our MBT are T-80 and T-90. And there is no importance to have a lot of modern tanks while having Smerch 9K58 and Iskander. Also thousands of cruise missilies. And had a chance to see the power of Russian army in 2008 conflict with Georgia.

[MIG-25P 4]

Su - 35, no doubt. Everyone knows that exept USA :). Besides, the price of f22 and the price of technical support.......

And moreover, we already have one T-50. In 2015 there will be about 50. This is the 5++ generation.

50 t-50 with russian economy? funny ... russian army still have t-62 main battle tanks .... also in russian army is still ''dedovishna'' (i dont know how it translate in english) .... i can continue if you want :)

 

There is Dedovshina in each army :). It makes our soldiers stronger (in majority of cases). Our MBT are T-80 and T-90. And there is no importance to have a lot of modern tanks while having Smerch 9K58 and Iskander. Also thousands of cruise missilies. And had a chance to see the power of Russian army in 2008 conflict with Georgia.

 

oxxx

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MquklsV50uA

listens this video

this videos are georgian propaganda yea??? :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

they are soldiers?no they are bomjs...

pls tell me which army is dedovishna?? (in euro zone and not in africa ..)

 

and please tell me russian and georgian loses (pls)

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Georgia - about 3000

Russia- 71 (Attacking side).

Osetia - 1672

 

Number of soldiers at the conflict

Georgia - 29000

Russia - 15 000

Osetia - 3 000

Abhasia - 5 000

 

1st video - it was just a bombing of the supporting convoy. No loses, just few injured. Should I revise you situation of US army in Iraq? No?

2nd video - Yes, Georgian army was supported by US money and were extremeley well equiped. That was absolutely normal reaction of Russian soldiers. This "bomjs" can vipe out each european country as you know, even alliance of few european countries,if USA will not help.

 

Dedovshina? Exists in all army. In some places strong in others not so much. For example army of Poland, France, Spain, Italy etc. USA if to speak not about Europe.

 

Dedovshina is a very old tradition that comes from the oldest times. It was always like that due to the severe character of Russians.

 

And yes - there is a lot of incompetent Georgian propaganda in the internet, but no video where you can see Russian soldiers. Usually they show Osetian soldiers and tell that this are Russians. Especialy I laughed on the video about the bombing of city Gori....

 

Georgians left they dead soldiers on the battlefield. Very brave....

[BeJunker 0]

Does it really matter? I'm pretty sure neither Russia nor the US is stupid enough to launch a full scale war towards the other. But I think f-22 would win. Why? Because I am American.

[RiseOfCucumber 651]

 

 

North American X-15, (Rocket-powered aircraft and the world’s fastest manned experimental aircraft)

[panzer-runner 2]

Su - 35, no doubt. Everyone knows that exept USA :). Besides, the price of f22 and the price of technical support.......

And moreover, we already have one T-50. In 2015 there will be about 50. This is the 5++ generation.

Let me guess... price of f22 costs $100 and is cheep? :lol: :lol: everyone in world can afford its technical support... :mrgreen:

 

Seriously though, I have to admit you are right about this, the T-50 will own everything, even US planes. The J-20 might be dangerous, but I think its got some similarities with the T-50 doesnt it?

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Su - 35, no doubt. Everyone knows that exept USA :). Besides, the price of f22 and the price of technical support.......

And moreover, we already have one T-50. In 2015 there will be about 50. This is the 5++ generation.

Let me guess... price of f22 costs $100 and is cheep? :lol: :lol: everyone in world can afford its technical support... :mrgreen:

 

Seriously though, I have to admit you are right about this, the T-50 will own everything, even US planes. The J-20 might be dangerous, but I think its got some similarities with the T-50 doesnt it?

 

I mean that su-35 is almost twice cheaper than f-22. It's to expensive to produce and support F-22.

[panzer-runner 2]

Su - 35, no doubt. Everyone knows that exept USA :). Besides, the price of f22 and the price of technical support.......

And moreover, we already have one T-50. In 2015 there will be about 50. This is the 5++ generation.

Let me guess... price of f22 costs $100 and is cheep? :lol: :lol: everyone in world can afford its technical support... :mrgreen:

 

Seriously though, I have to admit you are right about this, the T-50 will own everything, even US planes. The J-20 might be dangerous, but I think its got some similarities with the T-50 doesnt it?

 

I mean that su-35 is almost twice cheaper than f-22. It's to expensive to produce and support F-22.

 

You are right about that, and the US also has the disaster of a plane f-35 that costs even more and is garbage. Su-35 seems like the AK-47 of planes, affordable and available and effective as well.

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

OMG..... How much Georgian government brainwashed their citizens.....

Actually, Georgian government says that Gerogia lost about 1000 soldiers. The truth is about 3000.

You say 170. It's just your own number and nothing else. I understand you, you are Georgian, that's why you protect so hard your army. But facts are facts.

Forgot to say - your fleet was owned after 4 hours :) Air was owned without fighting. The only thing that Georgia managed to do - bombing of some convoys and bombing of their own cities, for example Gori.

[RiseOfCucumber 651]

 

NASA Boeing X-43, the fastest Unmanned aircraft in the world

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

 

NASA Boeing X-43, the fastest Unmanned aircraft in the world

 

In 2050 :mrgreen: and will cost 500 million dollars.

[MIG-25P 4]

OMG..... How much Georgian government brainwashed their citizens.....

Actually, Georgian government says that Gerogia lost about 1000 soldiers. The truth is about 3000.

You say 170. It's just your own number and nothing else. I understand you, you are Georgian, that's why you protect so hard your army. But facts are facts.

Forgot to say - your fleet was owned after 4 hours :) Air was owned without fighting. The only thing that Georgia managed to do - bombing of some convoys and bombing of their own cities, for example Gori.

my govermnat said that we lost 1000 soldier? :D :D D:D

http://mod.gov.ge/index.php?page=-10&Id=31&lang=1

ministre of defense official site ........

 

air was yours from 9 august because mig-s were flying in air ....

russian also bombed sity like saakashvili ....

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Your government changed number many times. It's always like that with Saakashvilli.

[MIG-25P 4]

Your government changed number many times. It's always like that with Saakashvilli.

 

give me a link or something that to approve that my goverment said that we lost 500+ soldier...

saakashvili said that we destroy enemy 200 tank.800 btr and 1000 soldier .. of course he is lying but i 100% know from soldiers that we lost 200- soldier ....

russian only destoyed half of 4 brigade .. they were figthing in tskhinvali ....

 

putin said that they lost only 2 or 3 tank (1 t72 and 1 t62) ... he is lying like saakashvili because i have 3 picture of destroed russian tanks ( 2 t-72 bm which have kontakt 5), and plius 10-20 picture of destoyed bmp/btr.

russians soldiers shot down their su .. its normal? (you think that su shot down by ossetians?no osettians didnot have igla and strela, but pilot killed by ossetians)

soldier who shot down their su was russian... he received medal but soon when russian goverment realized that this man shot down their su, they took away from this medal from him .... the soldiers name i dont know ....

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

Your government changed number many times. It's always like that with Saakashvilli.

 

give me a link or something that to approve that my goverment said that we lost 500+ soldier...

saakashvili said that we destroy enemy 200 tank.800 btr and 1000 soldier .. of course he is lying but i 100% know from soldiers that we lost 200- soldier ....

russian only destoyed half of 4 brigade .. they were figthing in tskhinvali ....

 

putin said that they lost only 2 or 3 tank (1 t72 and 1 t62) ... he is lying like saakashvili because i have 3 picture of destroed russian tanks ( 2 t-72 bm which have kontakt 5), and plius 10-20 picture of destoyed bmp/btr.

russians soldiers shot down their su .. its normal? (you think that su shot down by ossetians?no osettians didnot have igla and strela, but pilot killed by ossetians)

soldier who shot down their su was russian... he received medal but soon when russian goverment realized that this man shot down their su, they took away from this medal from him .... the soldiers name i dont know ....

 

That was SU with Georgian pilot...... T72? - that was Georgian T-72. Man, learn this conflict more detail. Georgia always used Russian weapons.... And even kontakt 5.

During the war Saakashvili said that Georgia has big loses and asked to help the world against "Russian invasion" Than after war he figured 532 loses and finally 172 soldiers. He was acting like a real child.

You have to argue with me and with world best experts. Russian army owns. Just imagine what will happen if Russia will use all it's power. 1 day and no Georgia on the map (not using nuclear weapons). One division of VDV and that's it.

Let's continue our speech in PM.

We are far away from the topic.

[r_Justen0 9]

its all really a moot point, though... the RF could never sustain a traditional war with the US. They just don't have the infrastructure, and, to be honest, neither side's planes have really been put up against pilots/planes of the same calibre for decades. (Vietnam for the US, I don't really know for the RF, but I assume its been a while)

[MIG-25P 4]

Your government changed number many times. It's always like that with Saakashvilli.

 

give me a link or something that to approve that my goverment said that we lost 500+ soldier...

saakashvili said that we destroy enemy 200 tank.800 btr and 1000 soldier .. of course he is lying but i 100% know from soldiers that we lost 200- soldier ....

russian only destoyed half of 4 brigade .. they were figthing in tskhinvali ....

 

putin said that they lost only 2 or 3 tank (1 t72 and 1 t62) ... he is lying like saakashvili because i have 3 picture of destroed russian tanks ( 2 t-72 bm which have kontakt 5), and plius 10-20 picture of destoyed bmp/btr.

russians soldiers shot down their su .. its normal? (you think that su shot down by ossetians?no osettians didnot have igla and strela, but pilot killed by ossetians)

soldier who shot down their su was russian... he received medal but soon when russian goverment realized that this man shot down their su, they took away from this medal from him .... the soldiers name i dont know ....

 

That was SU with Georgian pilot...... T72? - that was Georgian T-72. Man, learn this conflict more detail. Georgia always used Russian weapons.... And even kontakt 5.

During the war Saakashvili said that Georgia has big loses and asked to help the world against "Russian invasion" Than after war he figured 532 loses and finally 172 soldiers. He was acting like a real child.

You have to argue with me and with world best experts. Russian army owns. Just imagine what will happen if Russia will use all it's power. 1 day and no Georgia on the map (not using nuclear weapons). One division of VDV and that's it.

Let's continue our speech in PM.

We are far away from the topic.

ok

[r_Pin4er1630 25]

its all really a moot point' date=' though... the RF could never sustain a traditional war with the US. They just don't have the infrastructure, and, to be honest, neither side's planes have really been put up against pilots/planes of the same calibre for decades. (Vietnam for the US, I don't really know for the RF, but I assume its been a while)[/quote']

No one will win it the war b/n Russia and USA. Everyone knows It.

[RiseOfCucumber 651]

 

Lockheed SR-71 BLACKBIRD, (The Fastest manned airplane in the world)

[MIG-25P 4]

 

Lockheed SR-71 BLACKBIRD, (The Fastest manned airplane in the world)

and his killer mig-25 :)

max speed 3,200

[r_Justen0 9]

^LMFAO blackbirds would get chased by Mig 25s and they'd stall about 30,000 feet below, and the plane is faster than any missiles anyways

 

good god... if we had actually made F-12 interceptors.... *-*

[russia102010 14]

Stealth Plane Gonna Win :P

 

 

NEWS FLASH A51 sent a stealth bomber to serbia and it bombed a little but the russians shot it down and sent funny messges like sorry we didnt know it was invisable and kosavo is serbia dont come back NATO

[r_Justen0 9]

That was an F-117... which isn't exactly our premier stealth plane. Its rather meh. On top of that, it was being used in a way it wasn't designed. Its meant to drop bombs on things from +5k, and it was doing low level bombing at less than 1k. It was a bureaucratic mistake, not a flaw in the plane.

[russia102010 14]

ok