Halloween 2017

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Sure there's always the Polygon-crystal-farming Pro-battles.

 

But I often find a good Kunger or Serpuhov CTF game. Those are the best - no DD Magnums (well if they get a lucky supply drop) and you can actually implement tactics.

 

Problem is I'm still doing my mission chains in "normal" - but I have a feeling that's gonna end in near future...

Maybe after MM is every player has access to Pro games, maybe then I will find those games.  Right now, not so much.

 

Oh yeah! and you by an MU and then either have to wait 6 days for the upgrade or you have to spend about 20K in cry to speed up! Totally worthless.  And why aren't all the sales on at the same time and last the full week? Why do they have to space them out?  Well, if you have not figured that out yet, eventually you will!

So your point is, time does nor flow?  If you buy an MU step you'll never use it because 5 days will never pass?

 

Oh well, I guess I had a stroke because I remember as a 1st LT my full m3 hornet/isida.was the opposite of worthless against m1s and m2s. 

 

Live and learn.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

 

And what is it about matchmaking that's so difficult for you to implement? Is it really beyond the capabilities of a professional programmer to ensure that someone who hits the battle button doesn't end up in a battle 0-5 down in CTF (or 0-40 in CP, or 17-62 in TDM)) and heavily outnumbered against tanks which are 8 ranks higher? Do you not understand the algorithm you have which picks the battles? Would you like to share your problems here?

 

 

This is another example of a pretty good idea Alterniva is not likely to follow up on. Why not crowdsource your matchmaking algorithm. I guarantee players will catch what-ifs the developers aren’t thinking about.

[Tanki_Kindly 35]

One reason we get those unbalanced battles is there's no incentive for the losing team to fight on. Even if you stay and put up a brave rearguard action, even if you score more kills than deaths in doing so, you'll only end up with maybe 10 crystals for all your effort, where the druggers take 500 for shooting fish in a barrel.   Folks leave as soon as they realise what they've joined. The matchmaker keeps sending players there so the game doesn't time out, and it's a vicious circle.

 

If they found an intelligent way of rewarding players for the effort they put in, people would be more prepared to stay and make a game of it.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

One reason we get those unbalanced battles is there's no incentive for the losing team to fight on. Even if you stay and put up a brave rearguard action, even if you score more kills than deaths in doing so, you'll only end up with maybe 10 crystals for all your effort, where the druggers take 500 for shooting fish in a barrel. Folks leave as soon as they realise what they've joined. The matchmaker keeps sending players there so the game doesn't time out, and it's a vicious circle.

 

If they found an intelligent way of rewarding players for the effort they put in, people would be more prepared to stay and make a game of it.

It’s kinda sad that the bread has come to this.

 

If you check the Ideas and Suggestions area, you’ll see plenty of player-suggested remedies to unbalanced battles. Again, devs have left a lot on the table.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

Maybe after MM is every player has access to Pro games, maybe then I will find those games.  Right now, not so much.

 

So your point is, time does nor flow?  If you buy an MU step you'll never use it because 5 days will never pass?

 

Oh well, I guess I had a stroke because I remember as a 1st LT my full m3 hornet/isida.was the opposite of worthless against m1s and m2s. 

 

Live and learn.

Time does flow but that's not the point.  What you don;t get is that they could of had made all sales to run at the same time.  Also keep in mind that there are quite a few players who do not have enough crystals to get a better combo, yet they are dumped in maps with much higher ranks with much better combos. Not having to wait 5 days for the equipment to be upgraded it would be better for all players. I'd love to meet your m3 isida/hornet with an m2 fire/titan combo or even an m2 freeze/wasp combo. Hey keep on buying so the rest of us can play the game for free even if we gripe.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Unrelated question, so please don’t merge-

 

Was today another 10x gold day? I didn’t think so, but playing a lot on the Halloween map today I really didn’t notice a difference in the drop rate vs yesterday. Other maps were raining gold yesterday.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

It’s kinda sad that the bread has come to this.

 

If you check the Ideas and Suggestions area, you’ll see plenty of player-suggested remedies to unbalanced battles. Again, devs have left a lot on the table.

Months ago I posted what I thought was a pretty god idea for a parallel progression path.  The current system pay more Cry to the winning side, yes? So how about some sort of 2nd form of payout that favors the losing side?

 

The suggestion was "fame" or if you prefer, popularity.  In sports the scrappy underdog is often the fan favorite.  Yjay topic is now closed in the archive section.

 

To be fair to Tanki, that suggestions was of such a large scale it would be essentially a new version of the game. It is probably would cost to much to code for a game as aged as TO.

Edited November 1, 2017 by LittleWillie

[Viking4s 10,791]

Was today another 10x gold day? I didn’t think so, but playing a lot on the Halloween map today I really didn’t notice a difference in the drop rate vs yesterday. Other maps were raining gold yesterday.

Probably not a x10, but it seemed very higher than the usual drop rate, more than x2 for sure.

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Months ago I posted what I thought was a pretty god idea for a parallel progression path. The current system pay more Cry to the winning side, yes? So how about some sort of 2nd form of payout that favors the losing side?

 

The suggestion was "fame" or if you prefer, popularity. In sports the scrappy underdog is often the fan favorite. Yjay topic is now closed in the archive section.

 

To be fair to Tanki, that suggestions was of such a large scale it would be essentially a new version of the game. It is probably would cost to much to code for a game as aged as TO.

Yeah, I proposed a flat crystals per score with a rank multiplier. Same for winning and losing team, then give the winning team a modest win bonus. Something to play for to be sure, but meh if you don’t happen to be on the winning team.

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Edited November 1, 2017 by austen_pierce

[Bydo 20,120]

Did you have autofinish off?

have no clue what that is... so I never click on it ,

[Hulk500_the_tank 2]

OH MAN I CAN'T WAIT TO GET ON THAT SPECIAL MAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[T-34-3m 360]

You can have another Halloween mission after already completing one. It is even possible to get 3 in one day, by only completing one mission, then claiming it, then changing one of your remaining missions till it's a special mission and so on. You'll obviously have to put in triple the work also if you do it like that.

 

As a matter of fact, non-PRO battles aren't removed, they're just not visible anymore in the battle list. You should be able to join them by pressing the Battle! button:

 

But what if we want to commit the great, taboo atrocity of choosing our own battles? Edited November 2, 2017 by Kurt_KurtDGreat
Please use a spoiler or remove the images if you are quoting more than 1 image

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

have no clue what that is... so I never click on it ,

 

Auto-finish OFF will prevent the early termination of battles due to uneven teams, but I'm not sure if that's what happened. Auto-finish and Autobalance are kinda tricky to understand.

[wolverine848 13,097]

 

Auto-finish OFF will prevent the early termination of battles due to uneven teams, but I'm not sure if that's what happened. Auto-finish and Autobalance are kinda tricky to understand.

Autobalance dictates if teams HAVE to be even.  OFF means Players can join either side - even if it is currently 7 vs 1

[T-34-3m 360]

I for one would like to completely abolish matchmaking. Not enough people enjoy having their battle picked for them, and it caused enough lag that Tanki said "screw it" and made it MANDATORY for a short time. I've considered it in the past but if they actually make the battle list PRO only for good, I'm out. It's completely unnecessary and "streamlines" a large, oblong object I can't mention here in an orifice I also can't mention in a vicarious manner.

[Nicola_M 1,563]

Oh well, I guess I had a stroke because I remember as a 1st LT my full m3 hornet/isida.was the opposite of worthless against m1s and m2s.

 

Live and learn.

 

 

WHAT?

How the hell do you get an M3 Hornet at 1st Lt?

You can't buy it in the shop at that rank and you'd have to max out mummy's credit card to earn enough crystals to MU it's unreal.

 

Time does flow but that's not the point. What you don;t get is that they could of had made all sales to run at the same time. Also keep in mind that there are quite a few players who do not have enough crystals to get a better combo, yet they are dumped in maps with much higher ranks with much better combos. Not having to wait 5 days for the equipment to be upgraded it would be better for all players. I'd love to meet your m3 isida/hornet with an m2 fire/titan combo or even an m2 freeze/wasp combo. Hey keep on buying so the rest of us can play the game for free even if we gripe.

How can Willie even have an M3 Hornet/Isida at 1st Lt without drugging like mad from Gefreiter level?

I'm stuck on an M2 Hornet + M2 Isida at Major because if I MU'd it it would cost 1/4 million crystals for the Hornet and the same again for the Isida, and that's not even taking into account the MUs from M0 to M1 and M1 to M2.

I've only earned 186,000 crystals in 480 hours its taken me to get to Major.

So I'm forced to wait until Lt Gen when I can buy it in the shop, as it's cheaper doing it that way than breaking the credit card buying crystals.

 

I wish they would do away with the Halloween DM map altogether.

 

Today's missions are

Earn 3000 EXP in Halloween map :(

Earn 250 EXP in DM mode

Earn 200 crystals in DM mode

 

On the Battle List, there are FIFTY-TWO Halloween DM's and just ONE Silence DM.... and I got murdered on that.

FIFTY-TWO Halloween DM's? come on

 

We don't need that many Halloween maps, fgs. Give us some others, after all the Halloween map ain't that good.

Like others, Halloween's been a washout for me.

Can't complete missions, mission chain broken so I'm done now.

Druggers I can cope with, but druggers and a bad map it's walk away till service returns to normal with FULL non-pro maps.

Edited November 2, 2017 by CooperO
Posts merged, kindly avoid multi-posting.

[Hatty1994 819]

Today I don't have to change missions -- these missions are much better than rubbish Halloween drugging mission  :angry:

 

[Nicola_M 1,563]

Today I don't have to change missions -- these missions are much better than rubbish Halloween drugging mission :angry:

 

 

But you still got to go in the Halloween drugging map, cos that's the only DM map available....

[Hatty1994 819]

But you still got to go in the Halloween drugging map, cos that's the only DM map available....

Yeahh it took very little drugs to use to get 50 kills than getting 300 kills for Halloween mission  :P

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Time does flow but that's not the point.  What you don;t get is that they could of had made all sales to run at the same time.  Also keep in mind that there are quite a few players who do not have enough crystals to get a better combo, yet they are dumped in maps with much higher ranks with much better combos. Not having to wait 5 days for the equipment to be upgraded it would be better for all players. I'd love to meet your m3 isida/hornet with an m2 fire/titan combo or even an m2 freeze/wasp combo. Hey keep on buying so the rest of us can play the game for free even if we gripe.

Sales have always been 1 or 2 days affairs.  You can ask for a 7-day sale but I do not see why anyone would expect that to happen.

 

You said buying MU steps are, and I quote, worthless, because you have to wait a short while for them to take effect.  You are welcome to continue thinking that way.  

 

Everything I have I earned through game play.  "Keep on buying" LOL.  Frequent readers of this forum are probably laughing at that as hard as I am.  I have been pretty outspoken about that. lol

 

 

Oh well, I guess I had a stroke because I remember as a 1st LT my full m3 hornet/isida.was the opposite of worthless against m1s and m2s. 

 

Live and learn.

 

 

 

WHAT?

How the hell do you get an M3 Hornet at 1st Lt?

You can't buy it in the shop at that rank and you'd have to max out mummy's credit card to earn enough crystals to MU it's unreal.

 

How to have a m3 Hornet / Isida at 1LT?  Well you buy the m2 kit at 2LT [i see you have Fracture paint so you bought the same kit] and you MU it to m3 status by the time you are 1LT.  Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

 

By the way, "Mummy" passed away January 4th 2012.  So her credit card has expired by now. 

 

How can Willie even have an M3 Hornet/Isida at 1st Lt without drugging like mad from Gefreiter level?

I'm stuck on an M2 Hornet + M2 Isida at Major because if I MU'd it it would cost 1/4 million crystals for the Hornet and the same again for the Isida, and that's not even taking into account the MUs from M0 to M1 and M1 to M2.

I've only earned 186,000 crystals in 480 hours its taken me to get to Major.

So I'm forced to wait until Lt Gen when I can buy it in the shop, as it's cheaper doing it that way than breaking the credit card buying crystals.

Click on my profile [the Isida account is named BrittleWillie] and you will see I have earned a whole lot more than you. Have you been grinding hard to get exp as fast as you can? If so you should re-think that. The last thing you want to do in Tanki Online is to quickly advance in rank.

 

"Drugging like crazy"?  You can see how many I've used too.  Today that account has something like 1800 RKs and 5000 each of the other 4 supplies so I could have used more. Even before teh triple missions went into effect I had over 1,000 in stock and 400 or 500 RK - something like that.

 

Everything earned through game play and doing daily missions. Good luck on your shop purchase. Be sure to thank Mummy.

Edited November 2, 2017 by LittleWillie

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

How can Willie even have an M3 Hornet/Isida at 1st Lt without drugging like mad from Gefreiter level?

I'm stuck on an M2 Hornet + M2 Isida at Major because if I MU'd it it would cost 1/4 million crystals for the Hornet and the same again for the Isida, and that's not even taking into account the MUs from M0 to M1 and M1 to M2.

I've only earned 186,000 crystals in 480 hours its taken me to get to Major.

So I'm forced to wait until Lt Gen when I can buy it in the shop, as it's cheaper doing it that way than breaking the credit card buying crystals.

It is possible. When I was Colonel I started upgrading my Viking M2. This was back when MUs were 50 steps and cost more than the next modification or equipment. When I was Brigadier, I had Viking M3. Some of the MU steps I did during sales, some not, and the last one I finished when MU steps were divided so there were only 10. Had I begun upgrading with the current MU system and on sales, I probably would have gotten Viking M3 even earlier. 

 

Also, how can you earn only 186k after 480 hours?? Do you leave all your battles before they end or something? I have 530 hours and I've earned 950k total.

[GM_HEROTAN2 21]

lol why i so unlucky 3 days didnt get any special mission

[xXSarkanyXx 0]

This game is be a **** cause everyone is drugging!

[Guest]

This game is be a **** cause everyone is drugging!

Please be respectful towards everyone here ;) I hate drugging too much, but yesterday I just kept leaving and joining till I found a battle where my rank was the highest. Should be easier today since the non-pro battles are in the battle list again ;)

 

If you still find druggers, they're weaker cos they may have weaker equipment if they are lower ranked ;)

Autobalance dictates if teams HAVE to be even. OFF means Players can join either side - even if it is currently 7 vs 1

have no clue what that is... so I never click on it ,

Well yes regarding auto balance, tho players can leave from one side and stay on the other, so it's only a matter of when choosing a team initially. :p autofinish just provides early Battle termination, meaning if teams are getting too one-sided or the other team is all empty (when a team is too good against the other team basically), the battle ends earlier.

[Mihalist 0]

If I finish 1 halloween mission and start changing the others can I get another?