Why does tanki allow m0 guns and hulls to be used in m2 + battles

[Guest TSY_the_crazy]

K guys, I think we've discussed enough. You've made your points quite clear @PhantomFlanFlinger. You can continue to complain in the complaint book. Enough is enough.

[GorgoBlesk 831]

Imagine that you use M3 Hornet Railgun (XP) and you go to a small map. Your long range gun is useless there, so you swap to short range weapon. However, all your short range guns are M0. What would you do?

[The-Jinx 32]

I think @PhantomFlanFlinger is trying to troll us.

 

He has been told to go to I&S and make a suggestion.

Complain in the Complaint section

Told that this is out of our hands and we have no answer to his question. It's one for the Dev's...make a suggestion in I&S.

Some have attempted to answer his question. But still he asks again and again. 

Conclusion: He is a troll. 

 

I looked in I&S and the Complaint section. This OP has not posted in either one. I know I&S takes a day or two so I'll keep an eye on it. 

Edited January 19, 2018 by The-Jinx

[wolverine848 13,097]

Imagine that you use M3 Hornet Railgun (XP) and you go to a small map. Your long range gun is useless there, so you swap to short range weapon. However, all your short range guns are M0. What would you do?

Rail M3 on a smaller map would still be better than hammer M0.  Reload times won't be that far apart  :P 

 

But the real question is... why are you going to a small map with rail in the first place?

 

Visit the garage first and spend a few crystals on an m2 - or at very least an m1. 

If you can afford an M3 you can afford an m1 if you must play that map.

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

whenever i am in sniper hell battle of course id get isida m0 instead of m3 firebird, makes sense

[CabbageRoll 3,018]

so yes, you can complain but first look at battle format

 

i would be far more useless as firebird m3 because everyone sits and snipes but with isida m0 i can catch some xp and end up somewhere at middle

[PhantomFlanFlinger 220]

I think @PhantomFlanFlinger is trying to troll us.

 

He has been told to go to I&S and make a suggestion.

Complain in the Complaint section

Told that this is out of our hands and we have no answer to his question. It's one for the Dev's...make a suggestion in I&S.

Some have attempted to answer his question. But still he asks again and again. 

Conclusion: He is a troll. 

 

I looked in I&S and the Complaint section. This OP has not posted in either one. I know I&S takes a day or two so I'll keep an eye on it. 

Its a legitimate question not a troll, and much better to be discussed in open forum devs read here also they don't just go to "what have we done wrong section" nives even said in  the complaint book that they would try to make more  open topic debates like this to discuss things, and as the topic is here why would a re-post after i made a mistake and couldn't find the book when I first posted

Edited January 20, 2018 by PhantomFlanFlinger

[The_Pakistani 16,768]

Leave M0 and M2 buy mines and blow your enemies

Because I've got 125 x 3 mines from 3 containers :D

Edited January 20, 2018 by The_Pakistani

[The-Jinx 32]

Its a legitimate question not a troll, and much better to be discussed in open forum devs read here also they don't just go to "what have we done wrong section" nives even said in  the complaint book that they would try to make more  open topic debates like this to discuss things, and as the topic is here why would a re-post after i made a mistake and couldn't find the book when I first posted

Your original question was "Why is it allowed?" We don't have the answer to that question. The Dev's do. Again, do as @CooperO suggested. Or go to "Ideas and Suggestions" and make a suggestion that this not be allowed. We as a Community have no control over it.

 

One of the players asked you if you were glad to be healed by the M0 Isida or were you so upset at that M0 Isida that you turned away each time it tried to heal you and used your own RK instead of the Isida. You never answered that question. 

Edited January 20, 2018 by The-Jinx

[PhantomFlanFlinger 220]

TSY_the_crazy and The-Jinx

Why don't you chat here on your main account so I know who I'm talking to seems that to many players like to hide these days

Edited January 21, 2018 by PhantomFlanFlinger

[OICU812 32]

TSY_the_crazy and The-Jinx

Why don't you chat here on your main account so I know who I'm talking to seems that to many players like to hide these days

What difference does it make which account we use? As for me, I'm still the same person as I am whichever account I use. I would still say the same thing. @TSY_the_crazy may be crazy, but (s)he does make sense at times.

 

But if you insist, I will login on my main account, quote my posts so you can have a second dose. No need to retype what I have already said. 

[prince_of_combine 2]

If that player has a better turret in their garage and doesn't change to it when you ask them to, then it's against the rules and you can report them for it. But if that's the best he has, nothing can be done about that unfortunately. That's just how equipment progression was designed in this game.

but what if the player is learning how to use that turret, like me I'm learning how to use magnum, I have it m0 in my main acc, rank - first lieutenant Edited January 21, 2018 by prince_of_combine

[PhantomFlanFlinger 220]

but what if the player is learning how to use that turret, like me I'm learning how to use magnum, I have it m0 in my main acc, rank - first lieutenant

By all means your rank is suitable for m0 isida, these days the rank I showed a photo of isida would only be available to them at m2 or in kit at  m3, it would be like you joining a battle with players at my rank, there's a reason that tanki don't allow it. In days gone by  when top rank was gizmo ( one down from legend) you could make battles from gizmo to warrent officer 5 (5 squares) the same was true then the wo5's would just pop if you put a match stick under their tracks. These days a few players think its ok to use laughable for their rank equipment as tanki still allow it to be used its not effective and when asked to change they must or they break the rules.

 

My point is this should not even be an option for players to use low equipment in high ranked battles, I should not have to even consider calling out a moderator or making videos to post in rules break section tanki should just remove its' ability to be played when you reach certain ranks.

 

1st LT rank is still a comparable low rank where many players only have m1's due to poor choices and maybe 2-3 m2 if they saved hard and didn't get many m1's.

 

The player in hand had many m2 and 2 m3, but chose to use m0 basically he was cheating, knew what he was doing and ignored any attemt to change. I can't prove it but i expect he had friends in the other team and was playing in a weak manner to assist them in winning ( sabotage)

 

 

edit corrected spellings

Edited January 21, 2018 by PhantomFlanFlinger

[Maf 32,300]

but what if the player is learning how to use that turret, like me I'm learning how to use magnum, I have it m0 in my main acc, rank - first lieutenant

For that reason developers disabled the ability to buy M0 equipment at higher ranks, so what you describe rarely happens. But if it does, then I'm pretty sure the player has a risk of getting banned.

 

Exploring new equipment is good, but not when you do it at the expense of your effectiveness in a team game. For experiments there's always DM.

[BlitZ_Punisher 69]

Mabye his froend asked him to heal and he only had m0

[Torva-Messor 104]

On my lower ranks, we've had Isida M0 on our team when it should have been M1 or M2, but no one asked him to leave. We were grateful we had him. He had the correct hull and went into battle at times. He didn't have the power to fully heal two large tanks, but he could heal two large tanks half way. But then even if a Mammoth is an M0, I don't think an M0 Isida could heal two of them, anyway. 

 

Question I have is, were there other players complaining or just the OP?

 

If the M0 Isida was trying to use  it as a weapon for killing the enemy, then I could see the problem. The map shown was Massacre. I've noticed other Isidas staying behind the hills healing. You see tanks sniping from home base and not going into battle. What's the difference? The M0 Isida wasn't multing, he was helping his team. Personally, I don't have a problem with it. However, if he was using an M0 Railgun, for instance, then there would  be a problem. All the turrets, except for Isida, have only one role and that's to kill the enemy. The Isida can kill and/or heal. After all, what's the Isida's main role? To heal... and that's exactly what the Isida in the photo is doing.  

 

Edited for spelling and sentence construction. 

Edited January 21, 2018 by Torva-Messor

[r_Kirby4 358]

Sure, you'll still be a good flag carrier

Your "Sure" doesn't make him able to join XP/BP battle with M0 Railgun, though. 

[Amagi 1,728]

Its cases like these that I've practically isolated myself to DMs until just recently. Bring that kind of combo into a DM and you're only another easy target to kill.

[Guest TSY_the_crazy]

Your "Sure" doesn't make him able to join XP/BP battle with M0 Railgun, though.

 

Who gives a heck about XP BP

[PhantomFlanFlinger 220]

Mabye his froend asked him to heal and he only had m0

I had m3.5 he was a cheat nothing more when asked to change he didn't  in which case he broke the rules became a saboteur

 

On my lower ranks, we've had Isida M0 on our team when it should have been M1 or M2, but no one asked him to leave. We were grateful we had him.

 

Question I have is, were there other players complaining or just the OP?

 

If the M0 Isida was trying to use  it as a weapon for killing the enemy, then I could see the problem. The map shown was Massacre. I've noticed other Isidas staying behind the hills healing. You see tanks sniping from home base and not going into battle. What's the difference? The M0 Isida wasn't multing, he was helping his team. Personally, I don't have a problem with it. However, if he was using an M0 Railgun, for instance, then there would  be a problem. 

 

 

If you have  no problem with it thats fine for your battles, If you want a player who is under powered and cheating to be on your team then get a team together of under powered players and ill come with mine.

 

"The old chestnut of buyer vs non buyer is laughable its non cheater vs cheater in this instance"

 

M0 in what should be m2 battle is cheating its in the rules as sabotage..What your saying is you dont mind if players cheat. M0 rail M0 isida makes no difference its m0 cant have 1 rule for one and not another

 

Edit  governing dynamics are very important or you end up in a right old pickle, 

 

Who gives a heck about XP BP

Again your missing the point its one rules for one set of players and another rule for other sets of players they are no better than me and have no right to be treated any differently if tanki allow m0 isida in battle then i want into xp/ bp with m0 rail...

 

Still don't want to chat on your main tank I see.

Edited January 22, 2018 by PhantomFlanFlinger

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

I had m3.5 he was a cheat nothing more when asked to change he didn't  in which case he broke the rules became a saboteur

 

If you have  no problem with it thats fine for your battles, If you want a player who is under powered and cheating to be on your team then get a team together of under powered players and ill come with mine.

 

"The old chestnut of buyer vs non buyer is laughable its non cheater vs cheater in this instance"

 

M0 in what should be m2 battle is cheating its in the rules as sabotage..What your saying is you dont mind if players cheat. M0 rail M0 isida makes no difference its m0 cant have 1 rule for one and not another

 

Edit  governing dynamics are very important or you end up in a right old pickle, 

 

Again your missing the point its one rules for one set of players and another rule for other sets of players they are no better than me and have no right to be treated any differently if tanki allow m0 isida in battle then i want into xp/ bp with m0 rail...

 

Still don't want to chat on your main tank I see.

bring it on, stop spamming crap here and form your own OP team so you won't have to be teamed with those whom you deem unworthy of being your teammates.

 

You already have your solution so you know what to do. Go ahead.

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

i'm wasn't being scarstic, what you said really works... so get off your behind and form your own team. Tanki already gave us the friends system and invite system. what more do you want? are you a baby who needs to be spoon fed? You think the developers are your nannies who have to do everything for you?

 

 

 

 

 

if you can't do such a simple thing yourself then deal with random people using random equipment.

[Shadowmaster2.o 125]

because its not a pay to play game yet and not everyone likes to steal their mommy's credit card.

[GorgoBlesk 831]

I fight against generals with fully upgraded M0 Hunter and Viking because I hate Dictator, I can not buy M1 and I can not afford M2. I have to just keep using my poor equipment because I have not enough crystals to buy better equipment. I am basically trapped in M0 forever, maybe I need new account.

[TaffyTank 1,890]

i'm wasn't being scarstic, what you said really works... so get off your arse and form your own team. Tanki already gave us the friends system and invite system. what more do you want? are you a baby who needs to be spoon fed? You think the developers are your nannies who have to do everything for you?  

if you can't do such a simple thing yourself then deal with random people using random equipment.

LOL, in case you hadn't noticed.....it's the misuse of the friends list and invite system that the mult-using cowards rely on to dump their mult dogs in the enemy teams. It's an inevitable unwanted by-product of those two features.

 

Besides, no one should have to rely on getting reliable friends and clan-mates to play fair battles. We're here to play a simple Tank game and should be free to play it however we want as long as that's within the game rules. If someone doesn't want to interact with any community and prefers to play the game as a loner, then that's their call. They shouldn't have to suffer cheats because they can't be bothered with clans and friends.

 

And “you think the developers have to do everything for you?” comment made me laugh, what have they done exactly?...a vote system that's like a chocolate teapot, a kick system that failed almost immediately, a record and report system that most don't have the hardware, software or time for, and a future matchmaking plan that was a predominantly hated huge change to how we play the game.

 

Its common knowledge now that this game is super easy to cheat-to-win. It shouldn't be up to us to find solutions to this plague, or change how we play the game to avoid cheaters, but sadly that's the point its got to for many. Adapt to avoid cheats....or quit.

 

But yes, in the meantime you are right, adapt and play with reliable friends & clanners if you want dont want your team cheated in team battles....or play only DM, which is what I do.