invalid Change M3 unlock rank

[ThirdOnion 4,898]

In 2016, all M3 hulls and turrets became unlockable only at Marshal. Before that, the first M3s unlocked at Brigadier and the last M3 equipment unlocked at Commander. The motive behind this change was provide a solid end-game meta. The developers claimed that earlier unlocking M3s were weaker than ones that unlocked later, and by tweaking the parameters and having them all unlock at one rank would improve game balance for higher tiers. 

 

This created a huge gap between M2 and M3 players. Perhaps it improved balance in higher ranks, but at the same time it put those in the intermediate stage between M2 and M3 at a disadvantage. Even if they wanted to, they couldn't buy M3s and were forced to either pay for micro-upgrades (which at the time were more expensive) or buy kits.

 

Some time later, rank brackets increased, which in turn put M2 players at an even greater disadvantage.

 

Then came the MU update. Suddenly there seemed to be a way for M2 players to compete, since MUs cost the same as buying stock equipment. Everyone and their mother began to MU their equipment. We can already somewhat see the problem: if M2 players are running around with fully upgraded equipment, what was the point of restricting the unlock rank to Marshal?

 

Fast forward to the present day. Anyone who has some grey matter in their head is going to start upgrading their equipment as soon as they buy it, because there is no point in waiting to buy the next modification when MUs cost the same. Thus, battles are chock full of players who have 10/10 equipment. It has become part of the current meta to MU. Thus we have M1 players that are actually sporting M2s, and M2 players with M3s. Is this a good thing? I'm not sure but I'm leaning towards no.

 

The point is, there is no longer any point in restricting M3 unlock rank to Marshal, since the majority of players already have M3 level equipment when they should have M2s. So, why have this awkward intermediate stage? It's a low point in terms of progression, where you grind a lot without unlocking anything (except for modules). The increase in M3 unlock rank may have made some sense when it was introduced, but the game has changed. There is no reason for it to exist now.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Under Review
 

I would prefer that all M2s are adjusted and unlocked at one rank, as well as they did with M3.

Then players could think more like "what M2 do I like to play".

 

But this does maybe not solve the issue with the MUs that you talk about as well.

 

So let's see what the others think about your proposal.

[mhh.2000 888]

this is a great idea

you know I am only a captain so I am light years far away from even reaching the level needed to buy any kind of M3 equipment , I use my M2 thunder and titan and it's quite efficient , but I still run against some M2s that are 10/10 . and they are way more powerful than me at my rank .

now I don't want to upgrade my thunder because I know I will probably not be using it when I rank up , but I also don't have the option of buying an M3 , so this leaves me with the burden of buying an M2 new kit and MUing it to M3 . that's a lot of crystals that I can't afford . and i'm sure that even if I do get and upgrade by the time I do it , i'll be facing opponents with M3s that are micro upgraded . I can't stick to my M2 thunder and I cant buy a new M3 to be just as powerful as the enemy . the only solution I have is supplies , but you see , the higher my rank is the stronger my opponents are , and if they also use supplies i'm in a huge disadvantage.

[mhh.2000 888]

so , being able to buy an M3 soon enough will solve this problem that i'm having .

 

on the other hand , this could also lead to players getting M3s early therefore M4s too . which will make the battles more imbalanced .

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

wouldn't unlocking stock m3s earlier mean that people get access to m4s even earlier? right now lieutenant generals can already get m4s and beat up legends, you want brigadiers to be able to do that?

[mhh.2000 888]

Mmm...let's change M3 unlock rank to legend, m2 unlock rank to generallisimo, m1 unlock rank to commander and m0 unlock rank to field marshal. Now no one can mu cos no one can play --> devs happy xD

lol. that's sincerely so stupid :) but I know it's a joke

good one

[Rocket_Raccoon_XXX 1,507]

Wow TSY that really got  me triggered there!

 

 

[Amagi 1,728]

How about putting rank unlocks on MUs? 

[BlitZ_Punisher 69]

This guy exposed me soo much, i was going to get simmon kit, and mu to m3. But now i feel like a scub.

[C.O.N.Q.U.E.R.O.R 3,845]

I say keep the common unlock rank, but lower it to... this rank, I guess?

 

It really doesn't make sense to have a 750k experience gap between mid-M2s and M3s. Mind you, I counted from thr mid-M2s to M3 kits; in reality, there's more experience needed...

[lukey0 27,543]

The equipment should be divided into 3 different groups, the first unlocks at General, the second at Marshal and finally the third at Field Marshal. This gives a progression of unlocking equipment at new ranks but still keeping it somewhat even and balanced between players. 

 

How will kits work? The same as they do now.

First set unlocks at Major General.

Second set unlocks at Lieutenant General. (Same as they are now)

Third set unlocks at General.

*There might need to be some tweaking to some kits to fit new unlock ranks. 

 

I feel something like this makes more sense then just 'unlocking everything at once' like it is now. I still like the original system the best, but it did have its flaws, even more now.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

Mmm...let's change M3 unlock rank to legend, m2 unlock rank to generallisimo, m1 unlock rank to commander and m0 unlock rank to field marshal. Now no one can mu cos no one can play --> devs happy xD

If that happens, RIP TO 2007-2018 :ph34r:

[lukey0 27,543]

so , being able to buy an M3 soon enough will solve this problem that i'm having .

 

on the other hand , this could also lead to players getting M3s early therefore M4s too . which will make the battles more imbalanced .

Why would they fight Legends when there are perfectly fine M2's to bully? TBH that scenario is so rare. 

[r_Issimo2 1,495]

It will be very hard to create some balance without adding more modifications or putting limits to MUs per rank, which is practically the same thing.

 

So my idea is to add another modification level, it would be like this:

 

M0s - The equivalent of todays' M0s

M1s - 

M2s -

M3s -

M4s -

M5s - The equivalent of todays' M4s.

 

Here is an approximate example with Wasp:

 

M0 = 1000hp - Recruit

M1 = 1200hp - Master Sergeant

M2 = 1400hp - Warrant Officer 4

M3 = 1600hp - Lieutenant Colonel

M4 = 1800hp - Fieldmarshall

M5 = 2000hp

[GuidoFawkes 2,361]

Why would they fight Legends when there are perfectly fine M2's to bully? TBH that scenario is so rare. 

because not everyone is a bully like you. doing just about anything just to get nice scores and k/d to show off on tpotd. many of us play cause we like the challenge.

[Tani_S 736]

As you said, 'Everyone and their mother began to MU their equipment.' shows that the unlocking of M3 is not really the unlocking of M3, but rather the unlocking of M4.

 

This structure provides the game with two things, that we already know of a whole slew of other aspects in the game: additional income and disparity between players. The MU level should be restricted dependent on rank, but I bet this interferes with short-term revenue goals.

[DieselPlatinum 5,121]

I feel like this is a rant or a protest.

 

I think that narrowing the rank brackets should improve the imbalance even more.

[GeekSHizzle 522]

How about putting rank unlocks on MUs? 

,it is good idea :D

what you other's think about it :lol:

[BlackEliteEnemy2 250]

If you say, dont do this bcs you will be able to get m4 at rank of Brigadier, then why can ppl get M3 (MUed M2) at rank of WO3, M2 at rank of and M1 at rank of ??

This SHOULD be implemented, return us this.

[mhh.2000 888]

Why would they fight Legends when there are perfectly fine M2's to bully? TBH that scenario is so rare. 

don't get me wrong , it's hard to find M3s in the battles I play , note that I always end up first in battles because I choose the maps carefully . but it seems unfair to me that there are M3s at my rank while I can't have it because of a simple reason which is low rank

 

have you ever seen a Captain fighting an M4 ? well I have fought M4s but it was a total disaster for me , I died so quickly and could not kill a single one of them

 

If you say, dont do this bcs you will be able to get m4 at rank of Brigadier, then why can ppl get M3 (MUed M2) at rank of WO3, M2 at rank of and M1 at rank of ??

This SHOULD be implemented, return us this.

seriously ? how could someone who is has such a low rank afford the current prices of turrets ? the examples you set are very unrealistic , and it would make buyers invincible .

[sensei_tanker 3,098]

No. m3 is the final upgrade which means the balance between all m3s is more important since it will last forever once u get to m3. m2 upgrades are only temporary so just rank up and get an m3

[BlackEliteEnemy2 250]

To all those who say that my words are unrealistic:

 

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This last still exist! I had them in garage few days ago on alt acc.

 

These are the crystall offers:

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If you have M0, you can spend 20$ to have an M1.

If you have M1, you can spend 40$ to have an M2.

If you have M2, you can spend 70$ to have an M3.

 

If someone will really buy, this is what happens.

I am rank of , buy the Freeze kit, spend 70$, MU it up in a month and i got M3.

 

*you have to be a buyer tho, but this is true, make a new acc and explore low ranks again.

[BlitZ_Punisher 69]

Under Review

 

I would prefer that all M2s are adjusted and unlocked at one rank, as well as they did with M3.

Then players could think more like "what M2 do I like to play".

 

But this does maybe not solve the issue with the MUs that you talk about as well.

 

So let's see what the others think about your proposal.

Im a m1 people at the ranks i play with have m2 fully mircoupgrated. So they completly wreck me and its soo anoying. Plz fix the rank limits, plz.

[GorgoBlesk 831]

Do you know what would be a great idea? Colonel or Brigadier should automatically get all M1 turrets and hulls for free so there would not be any general with poor garage. Note that I have VERY poor garage.

[lukey0 27,543]

because not everyone is a bully like you. doing just about anything just to get nice scores and k/d to show off on tpotd. many of us play cause we like the challenge.

I did think that it was just your attitude towards some topics but now I believe you are just plainly rude in general. You turn everything into a personal attack, is that all you crave? 

 

I was stating a general opinion of past experiences and what I witness, not what I'd do.