Containers Mission Rewards - Results & Discussion

[LittleWillie 3,199]

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The weekly reward payouts for daily mission chains were changed in mid 2017. The system put in place then is sometimes called “3x”. The system was changed again very early into 2018. This is the system is use now. Now the weekly mission reward includes Containers.

 

Did the daily mission player get a good deal in the change from 17L to 18E? 

 

Let’s find out.

 

Container Page (Tanki Online Wiki)

 

Weekly Missions Bonuses by Rank (Wiki)

 

Separate Forum Thread for data contributors.

 

Link to the most current report page (07)

 

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Report 07 --- current report

 

Project FAQ --- Page last updated 2018/1/26

 

Terms used

 

The payout system used at the beginning of the year is Early 2017 or 17E.

The system used at the end of the year is Late 2017 or 17L.

The system introduced at the start of 2018 is Early 2018 or 18E 

 

Sincere thanks to all who comment and supply data.

Edited February 20, 2018 by LittleWillie

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Project Report 04.

 

 

Report is presented in four screenshots each tucked under their own Spoiler. Fire away with questions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2018 by LittleWillie

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Project Background Info & FAQ

 

This page will be updated from time to time

 

Thoughts on the Bottom Line 

 

Legends more or less break even in terms of overall tangible value. Everyone else does better than break even. This system is a boon to those leveling up. To those a bit higher in rank it’s still a net benefit,

 

Low-ranks will obtain basic Supplies in vast quantities as compared to before. This dwindles with increasing rank. LtCol (or thereabouts) will obtain about the same amount as in 2017. Above that point basic Supply amounts start to fall compared to 17L levels.

 

However, the value from the extra Crystals and RKs tends to offset the basic Supplies loss. At Legend this offset more or less turns to break-even.  This assumes a moderate value for Supplies and average playing time. Legend players wish to do better than break-even can definitely do so.

 

Remember that even though Legends tend to break even overall, that still means more cash Crystals than before. You can turn extra Crystals into Supplies, but you cannot turn extra Supplies into Crystals.

 

Furthermore, all players will obtain intangible benefits from Paints, Gold Boxes, and Premium Accounts that this report does not measure. PAs and GBs can earn many more Crystals than the minimal estimates used in this report.  PAs earn extra experience. Free paints will save some people Crystals or even currency. These intangible factors are valued differently by every individual,

 

At the end of the day, Tankers have a new Container-based rewards system that overall is more valuable as the system it replaced. Plus it adds some intangible benefits too. For lower ranks it is a bonanza. For upper ranks it is a fair deal.

 

For all players it means the 2017 income boost will remain permanent. This is good news for the game economy. Players will have more options when developing their Garages.

 

 

Edited January 26, 2018 by LittleWillie

[Heles 9,220]

Dammm LittleWillie
U did a nice job collecting data and info. 
#Datacollector 
 

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Okey fine I'll hide my 'first' post to give you the space ;-;

 

Thanks for the hard work put into this topic! Much appreciated.

That actually helpled I think. Until you posted (both times) my attempot to create a reply eas just edited into the existing message, :)

[C.O.N.Q.U.E.R.O.R 3,845]

That actually helpled I think. Until you posted (both times) my attempot to create a reply eas just edited into the existing message, :)

Lemme hide again xD

Okey fine I'll hide my 'first' post to give you the space ;-;

 

Thanks for the hard work put into this topic! Much appreciated.

[C.O.N.Q.U.E.R.O.R 3,845]

Forum is not allowing me to post screenshots now.

I would recommend uploading picture to imgur, and be sure you're clicking on the Direct Link. The link must end in .png? for the forum to accept it. 

[Heles 9,220]

Forum is not allowing me to post screenshots now.

Try using postimage.org

Then like what conqueror said, click on "Direct link" 

I use that all when posting images to the forum 

Edited January 26, 2018 by Heles

[lukey0 27,543]

Wow very nice! There was a lot of work put into this. :)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Try using postimage.org

Then like what conqueror said, click on "Direct link" 

I use that all when posting images to the forum 

OK this saved me. This site worked but ingur did not.  Thanks for hanging through the delay.

 

The report is as of 451 entries.

When report 05 goes live I will change the links in the OP. 

Over time I will include the most interesting comments/concepts on the FAQ page. 

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Wow very nice! There was a lot of work put into this. :)

Once the spreadsheet and the Word file are linked the report reflects each container as it is entered. If I could just C&P the Wrod file it wold take me lik1 5 seconds to post a new report. But with the screenshot workaround it takes some  time of just busytwork. But at lest now I know how to do it. :)

 

The bottom line is basically everyone should be happy the 3x system was replaced this way. :_

 

As for me I got two more paints, Nano (G) and Amber (G), on the same account that got Elektra (G) and  Zombie (S) on Week 1. Well at least 3 of the 4  are cool.  :ph34r:  

[Commander_Rose 327]

Good Work!  ^_^ 

[Maf 32,302]

Why post a new topic though?

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Why post a new topic though?

It is easier to manage the data by having a clean data entry thread. But then I realized there needed to be an outlet for comments and questions.

 

Now I can just edit the top post links. Anyone wanting the latest info does not have to sift through all the comments to find the report. NNor do I havet to sift through a lot of comments to find entry data.

 

Making use of the available tools.

Edited January 26, 2018 by LittleWillie

[Maf 32,302]

Nah, you just want to spam a bunch of topics...

 

Ok, fair enough  :ph34r:

[Ishrak 932]

I expected the "weekly net value" for lower ranks to increase more due to this new system (well, I don't know that it's called weekly net value, but I understand the graphs at least). I'm glad I started my alt acc right around the time that the idea of containers was introduced. :P

 

Good job on the data/analysis of the data! Looks really complicated to me  :wacko: but in time I'll probably try to use this to make decisions of what to do on each acc I have.

Edited January 26, 2018 by Ishrak

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I have some thoughts on those deicions you mention. I will add them to teh FAQ page. Right now though I am just glad I got this part done.

[CooperO 7,956]

Topic title changed from "Containers Mission Rewards Report".

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Thanks for the title change Cooper.

 

FYI: With the 23 new Paints going into containers I am going to merge the two "Premium Garage" Paints with the Shop Paints.  I have always suspected these two paints were never a different category. I think they are just two of the random chances you might get when within the Epic category.

 

We will then have three categories of Paints, Rare, Epic, and Legendary. 

 

Rare means Garage (except for the two Premiums.)

 

Legendary are the animated paints. They are generally listed by name in Wiki.

 

Epic is everything else: Shop Paints, bundled Paints, the two premium garage Paints, and now also these new Container-only non-animated Paints.  Easier to just call them the "Epic Paints". :)

 

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In case anyone is wondering I will be able to see if these new paints affect the overall Container odds ... well at least eventually I will be able to see. For that we need data. Data data my precioussssss data.

Edited January 26, 2018 by LittleWillie

[thijs-p 54]

container by rankup? good idea?

[LittleWillie 3,199]

People are posting questions on the data-only forum. If you want a questions answered or of you have comments to make please do it here.

 

From other thread: Answer - No I do not plan to wade through YT videos. 

 

container by rankup? good idea?

I do not understand what you are asking, sorry.

Edited January 28, 2018 by LittleWillie

[Ishrak 932]

container by rankup? good idea?

I think he means getting containers when ranking up (container # depending on rank).

 

I don't think thats a good idea. The current rewards for ranking up are good enough.

Edited January 29, 2018 by Ishrak

[caiosilvac 567]

I think he means getting containers when ranking up (container # depending on rank).

 

I don't think thats a good idea. The current rewards for ranking up are good enough.

That's probably what he means. it was suggested before, amd declined:

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=366737

[medicguy 27]

125 DD

10 GB supplies

10 days premium

(Containers from weekly chain opened 5 minutes ago. I think that makes them 2018 E?...)

 

Wait, is this not the reporting thread? Idk. Sorry

Edited January 29, 2018 by medicguy

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I think he means getting containers when ranking up (container # depending on rank).

 

I don't think thats a good idea. The current rewards for ranking up are good enough.

 

Oh I see. Well since they would probably reduce the  cash if they added containers ... I will just take the cash myself thank you.

 

125 DD

10 GB supplies

10 days premium

(Containers from weekly chain opened 5 minutes ago. I think that makes them 2018 E?...)

 

Wait, is this not the reporting thread? Idk. Sorry

Thanks for the head's up. I did not enter your data twice.