Rant Against Tier 2

[r_Fiasco0 7]

Tanki used to be nice and balanced. You'd slowly work your way up the ranks, get your rail, dictator, and tundra. Then you'd either camp or charge the treasure. And the thing was, everyone else had the same stuff. So the best teamwork won.

Now lets look at Tier 2. m3 Mammoth drugging WIth m3 freeze does 64 damage per second, had 400 hp, and goes faster then a non drugging m2 hornet. Of course, all of that costs around 30,000 crystals, or 200ish USD. On the other team, we have the dude from back then. He uses his m3 dict, m3 rail, and tundra. If he doesnt drug, his Rail shot takes away 15% of the enemies health. Within two seconds, he is killed.

Now, i recently saw a forun post, stating that Tier 2 rebalanced this game. As of right now, i can firmly say that Tier 2 has killed this game.

 

Fiasco

P.S. If I get banned for this, it will prove these mods have nothing.

[r_AdvocatusDiaboli0 861]

After tier 2 came out. Two things happened.

 

1) Those who were good with the game and knew how to get the jackpots carried on and switched to the much similar Viking.

2) Those who were not able to remain good with the Dictator and Railgun combo either carried on and figured out a good way to be successful. Or they made a new account and thus formed the low ranked Pro players we know today.

 

As for the ban, I don't see a single reason why you should be getting a ban for this.

[r_Fiasco0 7]

Hey Kool, thanks for ignoring the whole point of the post.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

Hey Kool' date=' thanks for ignoring the whole point of the post.[/quote']

 

he did answer ur questions. he basically said the game has evolved, you evolve or dont. simples.

[NoblePlatOne 19]

Fiasco, my comments about this very concern were much more inflammatory, and I did not get banned.

 

You and I see the same problem, although I am fine with Thunder and Ricochet. Yes, they are very strong, but manageable. Freeze is the main issue with me.

 

The other issue is that these powerful weapons are made available at too low of rank. I feel the game would play better with fewer Tier 2 weapons in map. The only way to do that is to raise the rank requirements. Let me explain my reasoning, although I know it won't do any good. Any army is made up primarily of lower (average) skilled soldiers. Those few with greater skills rise to be the leaders. Those with extraordinary skills become the elite squads (SEALS, Green Berets, Rangers). There are very few of them. Any typical game on Tanki (excluding newbie games), have well over half with elite weapons. That is not balanced.

 

To me, the most enjoyable battles are those with diversity of weapons...this is where skill and cooperation wins the game. Instead, we now have drugging maniacs with more money than abilities, and the fun is being lost. Ultimately, Tanki will lose.

[r_Nacom0 0]

Good post I think the same...

 

Bye!

[r_Fiasco0 7]

Thank you , NoblePlatOne. I can say that I enjoy using Thunder and Rico, because they are new. My m1 thunder is terrible though. It's hard to get many killls with it. Same with my m0 rico. But if I use m0 viking and m1 freeze, I can drug a victory on most maps where Captain is the highest rank. Why? Because Freeze is way to overkill. 22 damage a second for 2250.

[skitee 555]

Tier Two was and is perfectly fine, according to my eyes.

 

Those with extraordinary skills become the elite squads (SEALS' date=' Green Berets, Rangers). There are very few of them. Any typical game on Tanki (excluding newbie games), have well over half with elite weapons. That is not balanced. [/quote']

 

NoblePlatOne, you say that there shouldn't be many elites and this is right. But Tier Twos are not meant to be the elite weapons. There has been practical guarantees that there will be a Tier Three of guns, and maybe even further. For tanki to bring out tier two before three was obvious. And thus, there should be no issue about Tier Two being available at too low ranks. Why? Because, reason 1: space is needed for tier 3; reason two: m3 fire>m0 freeze; m3 smoky> m0 thunder; m3 twins> m0 ricochet. Thus, to have a weapon greater than one that is unlocked in 5 ranks or so is just pointless. Tier Two needs to be unlocked at the area it is now to be perfect.

 

Now lets look at Tier 2. m3 Mammoth drugging WIth m3 freeze does 64 damage per second' date=' had 400 hp, and goes faster then a non drugging m2 hornet. Of course, all of that costs around 30,000 crystals, or 200ish USD. On the other team, we have the dude from back then. He uses his m3 dict, m3 rail, and tundra. If he doesnt drug, his Rail shot takes away 15% of the enemies health. Within two seconds, he is killed. [/quote']

 

The reason the guy gets killed is because he is using m3 dict, m3 rail and tundra. Why not get m2 thunder and viking? Or get mammoth? Or get Freeze? Because he wants to lose? Tier Two is "overpowered" to make people want to buy it. To have a Tier Two of weapons that are only fractionally better than Tier One or One.Five is stupid. Keeping using m3 rail/m3 dictator when there are better weapons is either because you want to lose or because you are a noob and can't afford those weapons. If you can't afford those weapons, play against the lower ranks and don't try to face off with marshals expecting to be equal! If you think that warrant officers and lieutenants should be equal with marshals that would be like corporals being equal with you: i.e. imbalance.

[r_Fiasco0 7]

Skitee, you missed the point. He can't get any crystals unless he buys, so he cant afford the thunder. God, you're stupid. Plus, I have met Warrant Officer 5's who have the best rico and best viking that their rank allows.

[skitee 555]

Plus' date=' I have met Warrant Officer 5's who have the best rico and best viking that their rank allows.[/quote']

 

But they are rare and far apart. What I'm saying is, tier two is not imbalanced. So m3s of tier 2.0 are unlocked a bit too low. Maybe. In fact, probably. But m2 thunder (the first very good thunder) costs 6.5k: not immensely expensive for the average third lieutenant or second lieutenant if they had set a secure plan for their garage and play reasonably well. m2 thunder/m2 viking is around about than the amount of crystals your garage is worth, I would guess (if you are third-first lieutenant). If you had planned your garage well, you would have been able to get them.

 

Well, if they don't/didn't have a reasonable plan for their garage or if they didn't/don't play well, then they are being punished for it as they deserve. Imagine a game where noobs get lots of rewards? Or where people who messed up their garage still manage to get away with the best stuff without buying?